Mafia Game #20: Brilliant Idea Mafia

[Jamul]

BRILLIANT IDEA MAFIA!

(yes, there's a ton to read. Seriously, read it all or you will be sad)


Welcome! You are here on Brilliant Island to participate in a small experiment. This experiment should prove quite harmless to you physically, provided our decontamination systems work as computer models predict when dealing with psychotronic radiation. But that's neither here nor there. We hope to learn much about something or the other very important and scientific with your assistance. While you are here, we ask that you follow a few simple rules. The purpose of these rules will not be explained to you, as that could compromise the validity of the experiment:

1 - All participants in the experiment are either Normals or Anomalies. Beyond this basic fact, nothing more shall be explained about your fellow subjects, but feel free to discuss things openly with them within the confines of the experimental chamber. Anomalies have the unique power of Pyscho-mentative (P.M.) communication with their own group. The strange energies surrounding this power are one focus of our experiment.

2 - Each day, all subjects shall vote together to select one to remove from the experiment. A simple majority will be enough to select the victim. When this person is selected, they will be asked to leave the facility immediately. They may give one final comment before departing, of no longer than 100 words. This comment must be made within 1 day of their ejection.

3 - Anyone who is a Normal will be privately messaged by the lab director upon a completed vote, to be told whether the subject ejected was a Normal or Anomaly. This information will not be made public by the lab, but no restrictions are placed on what subjects may say to each other within the experimental chamber, except that they may not speak during the night. We all need our rest!

4 - Each night, we ask that Anomalies gather their psycho-mentative energy and direct it at one subject continuously during the night. We will measure psychotronic field levels at sunrise, and will immediately remove the person with the highest levels from the experiment and rush them to testing and decontamination. They will no longer be a part of the experiment, but the data gathered will be invaluable! No information shall be released about the afflicted subject beyond their name. As with daytime ejection, these unfortunates may make a final comment of no more than 100 words, from within a leaded glass case where they can't infect anyone else.

5 - There is one way for a person removed from the experiment to return. They must simply guess what the Brilliant Idea actually is! They must get it to within 8 microns of precision and not state anything that is actually incorrect in the process. Guesses may be sent by anyone removed from the experiment to the lab director (Jamul) via private channels. You may make only one guess per day, at any time (i.e. Day 1 and Night 1 are one day, Day 2 and Night 2 are another day). The reply will either state Incorrect (something you said was false), Imprecise (you made no incorrect statements, but did not provide enough information), or Correct (yay!). If you are correct, you shall be returned to the experiment the following morning after a thorough decontamination process. All decisions on accuracy shall be made by the lab director and are final. No element of 'theme' is involved in the Brilliant Idea, it is simply a matter of the design of the experiment itself and the rules.

6 - Once an Anomaly returns by making a correct guess, no one with which he or she has a psycho-mentative bond may make guesses again. Any number of Normals may return to the experiment if ejected, since of course we all know that they can only communicate openly in the experimental chamber and would never risk illegal secret communication that would get them mod-ejected.

7 - Anomalies removed from the experiment for any reason MAY continue to employ psycho-mentative communication with their fellows who remain.

8 - In situations where the experiment's progress depends on input from the subjects (such as selecting a target for psycho-mentative application during the night), please be aware that timeliness is expected. While the lab staff will not directly penalize tardiness (unless it is so long as to be detrimental to the experiment), you will find that your results improve with prompt action.

9 - The experiment will be concluded when one group comprises 50% of the test subjects or more, or all Anomalies have been ejected from the experiment (without them, we have nothing to experiment on!). Then you can all go home, completely unharmed, and you definitely won't be killed and have your records eradicated as though you had never existed.

10 - This experiment is loosely based on the popular internet game "Mafia", and as such, all the rules of Mafia apply beyond the distinctions listed above.


Please unpack your things and get comfortable within the experimental chamber. You will all be privately contacted with further information sometime prior to what we are calling DAY 1 of the experiment. DAY 1 begins tomorrow at 11am PST with a roll call.

Thank you all for participating! Please ignore the armed guards stationed at each exit - they are simply here for your protection.

[diginova]

/me tries to exit... not the game, but the facility... I'm claustrophobic.

[Mr.Onion]

Hold Portal... :p

Anyway, yay!

[Coolguy]

It should be illegal to discuss the Brilliant Idea in the Experimental Chamber, because if a normal revived person said it out loud in the topic, all the normals would have 2 lives and the Mafi- I mean, anomalies would only get 1 bonus life.

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

Hrrm..... who's townie and who's mafia....... wait, did I say townie and mafia? I meant normal and anomaly! Don't kill me! *blows up* Anyhow, really, identify yourselves foolish anomaly-ings?

[Jamul]

Though the lab director cannot comment on the rules, he would like to point out that nobody is anything yet. Please await 11am PST tomorrow to learn of your powers or lack thereof.

[regeneratorizer]

Well, yeah... nevermind. :P

[Roland]

The only bit I don't understand is point 9... Well, I understand that the Normals have to get all the Anomalies, but the Anomalies only have to get %50? Is that because Normals can be revived? But couldn't Normals who have figured out the solution, once they've re-entered the chamber, just chat about it with everyone? Making every townie that dies have the power to come back to life? Or does the 50% compromise that somehow? I'm confused.

Also, it's taking me a while to get used to this themed language!

[regeneratorizer]

He means when anomalies(Mafia, as they are called in the popular internet game) reach the same number of regulars (Townies, in the same respect) the ''Mafia'' win.

[Justin]

Yay! Confusing language indeed.

[WackieWatty]

We shouldn't really be talking about the game yet - it hasn't even started.

We (now including I) are just cluttering up the topic8)

[AtkinsSJ]

Wow. This prospect reminds me of several other things. Wow, I never realised I could be so vague.

Seems to me that there are going to be multiple groups of anomalies:
"6 - Once an Anomaly returns by making a correct guess, no one with which he or she has a psycho-mentative bond may make guesses again."
Though that could just mean that only one anomaly can ever return to the facility.

*Totally geeks out.*

[Jamul]

The experiment has begun! If something doesn't happen the way you expect from here on out, file it away in your brain and try to discern why it might have occurred. It could prove an invaluable clue to the puzzle you must solve if you are ejected from the experiment.

IT IS DAY 1! Welcome to the experimental chamber. If you have any questions, then share them with your fellow subjects, because the lab staff is not authorized to communicate with you. Now vote on a subject to dismiss from the experiment!

Current Subjects:

31337
AtkinsSJ
Blackmyth
Chaucer
Coolguy
Dave Hettel
Diginova
Drgamer
Hammered
Julianmh102
Justin
Mossysox
Mr.Onion
PlasmaCannonsRule
Regeneratorizer
Roland
WackieWatty
Wesley

(yes, we started quite early... I have to go away all day today!)

[diginova]

Wow. This prospect reminds me of several other things. Wow, I never realised I could be so vague.

Seems to me that there are going to be multiple groups of anomalies:
"6 - Once an Anomaly returns by making a correct guess, no one with which he or she has a psycho-mentative bond may make guesses again."
Though that could just mean that only one anomaly can ever return to the facility.

*Totally geeks out.*

I agree... otherwise, why would they only PM the Normals the alignment of all lynched and killed players? If there was only one abnormal group, the Anomalies would know anyway, so there would be no benefit to PMing vs. posting in the topic.

This game seems to be tilted rather strongly in the townie's favor.

The 4400 live!

[diginova]

Can we get Atkins replaced? According to his sig, he's going to miss an entire week of Mafia, and he's had a lot of unplanned vacations recently... and he mainly lurked in Mafia 19... what's to say he won't do the same again?

[Coolguy]

Y'know, the rules didn't even really say that the anomaly's night choice even kills. EDIT: Oops, it actually does. This is a weird game, though.

VOTE: Mr Onion, for winning last game even though he shouldn't! :p

[Jamul]

Atkins is not as away as he seems. Both he and WW were able to confirm in under 24 hours, rather than the 48 everyone else had. They are hooked up while on their trip!

EXPERIMENTAL BIRTHDAY TO CHAUCER!
AS A PRESENT, HE SHALL BE IMMUNE TO VOTES TODAY.

[Hammered]

Wow! Not even a night kill for evidence of how the anomolies are thinking! That makes this really tough! I don't want to be responsible for an innocents normal's demise though, so, for now, I will VOTE: Chaucer as a special Happy Birthday, because it won't hurt any of my fellow normals.

[Jamul]

Vote totals:

1 Random Vote For A Veggie
1 Ineffective Birthday Vote for Chaucer

[Coolguy]

1 Random Vote For A Veggie


It wasn't random. :p

[diginova]

Vote: Chaucer, since nobody has said anything suspicious. Happy birthday!

[Mossysox]

Make that three ineffective birthday votes for Chaucer. I agree with Hammered: this seems really tough, and I don't want to be responsible for an innocent normal's demise, either. Right now, we have nothing to go on. So, I'll VOTE: Chaucer, too.

[Mr.Onion]

I don't want to risk a 77.78% chance that we lynch a townie today, so Vote: No Lynch

[31337]

Now you're seeing the chances. :p
Anyways, Vote: Chaucer as a happy birthday present

[drgamer]

Of course the Onion doesn't want to sound suspicious...

Although is there a reason that we are voting Chaucer?
Is the plan something like:
1) Vote for Chaucer
2) Get the required amount of votes to knock Chaucer out on Day 1 (Infinite?)
3) ???
4) Profit
?

(Cookie to anyone that gets that joke/reference [offer not valid where cookies cannot be obtained])
Ah why not:
Vote: Chaucer

[Hammered]

Atkins is not as away as he seems. Both he and WW were able to confirm in under 24 hours, rather than the 48 everyone else had. They are hooked up while on their trip!

EXPERIMENTAL BIRTHDAY TO CHAUCER!
AS A PRESENT, HE SHALL BE IMMUNE TO VOTES TODAY.

That is the reason why I voted Chaucer!

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

Okay, why did CG vote MO just because he won the last game? That's kinda suspicious...... but I'll hold my vote for now....

[Coolguy]

Okay, why did CG vote MO just because he won the last game? That's kinda suspicious...... but I'll hold my vote for now....

You're finding me suspicious because of a joke?

[WackieWatty]

Okay, so is anyone actually going to be serious today?

Ah, I guess not.... Vote: No lynch

[diginova]

I don't want to risk a 77.78% chance that we lynch a townie today, so Vote: No Lynch

How do you know it's a 77.78% chance of townie lynch? Did Jamul ever say how many mafiya there were?

[Coolguy]

I'd guess that there's 4, but Brilliant Idea Mafia could easily change that number.

[Mr.Onion]

Well, assuming there is 4 (one of which should be extra-powerful, and if there wasn't the game would be broken unless the town had a big (dis)advantage.)

[regeneratorizer]

Woot, new game!

Uhh... I never really like ''No vote'' days.... I'm not ready to decide what to do yet, I'll wait a bit longer......



Oh, and VOTE: Chaucer

[Wesley]

Happy Birthday! VOTE:Chaucer. As for contributing anything to the actual game, I can't think of much. The first day is usually always like this...

[regeneratorizer]

Lets all just split it and VOTE: NO CHAUCER.

[blackmyth]

I got that reference, drgamer. :lol:

Anyway, sorry I'm late, I've been playing a lot of GunZ. :p So far, I don't really know who to vote for (what a surprise ). Since it's harmless, Mr. Laboratician, I'd like to Vote: Chaucer.

[Roland]

Chaucer is immune to votes... So I think you're all wasting your time. But were some of you serious? Because if you were...

[Mr.Onion]

ONOS! I just realized that in 10-12 hours, all of those votes will count!

[Mossysox]

ONOS! I just realized that in 10-12 hours, all of those votes will count!



EXPERIMENTAL BIRTHDAY TO CHAUCER!
AS A PRESENT, HE SHALL BE IMMUNE TO VOTES TODAY.


I assumed 'today' meant Day One of the experiment. If that's wrong, I hope The Staff can confirm that, so that Unvoting can begin...

[Justin]

Wow! Not even a night kill for evidence of how the anomolies are thinking! That makes this really tough! I don't want to be responsible for an innocents normal's demise though, so, for now, I will VOTE: Chaucer as a special Happy Birthday, because it won't hurt any of my fellow normals.

Just thought I'd point out that there hasn't been a night yet therefore making it impossible for a night kill.

Otherwise: Don't you all think you should be a bit more real and actually think about a real vote?

You're finding me suspicious because of a joke?

Another note: The last time i checked actually doing something isn't a joke. You actually voted.

---

For now... VOTE: No Lynch

[Julian]

The first day is always the hardest. So as to get the satisfaction of voting, even though it's harmless, I'll VOTE: Chaucer.

[Jamul]

That is 9 votes for Chaucer!
(1 for Mr. O)

With one more vote, he will be not escorted from the chamber, and night will commence.

Please be aware that this mysterious term "No Lynch" (as if we would lynch a person! We are civilized in this laboratory) which seems to be so popular is mentioned nowhere in the remarkably extensive experiment rules. It is not permitted. However, on this day alone, due to Chaucer's incredibly fine present, it is possible to avoid ejecting someone, if that is the group's desire.

[diginova]

Well, assuming there is 4 (one of which should be extra-powerful, and if there wasn't the game would be broken unless the town had a big (dis)advantage.)

I'd assume that Jamul would do something to counter the two lives of each townie, at least if we determine the Big Idea. With less than 4 mafia, it would be too easy for us to win... a good counter to the last game.

[Coolguy]

I'll VOTE: Chaucer to end the day with no lynch. It's our only chance to use this power, after all.

[Jamul]

So, the final tally is taken... it looks like you all are taking advantage of the kindness and generosity of your hosts, and would like to have a little more time to get to know each other before you ruthlessly begin backstabbing. That's alright. I'll just mark it down in the notebook for future reference... it is our first significant data point!

Now, everyone return to your bunks and get some rest.

IT IS NIGHT 1!

Anomalies, please confer and let me know who you wish to project psycho-mentative energy upon during the night. Everyone sleep well, we have another big day of tense negotiations and vital research tomorrow!
And remember, no talking during the night!

[Jamul]

BAD NEWS, EVERYONE!

Night will continue for more than 24 more hours, because I have to go away for the day and most of tomorrow, and I have not yet received all night PMs. Please send in those PMs ASAP! Well, actually, you have lots of time now. But I may be able to check in at some points, so get them in and day might start at any moment.

[Jamul]

GOOD NEWS, (almost) EVERYONE!

IT IS DAY 2!

Bad news for WackieWatty. He has been measured as having the highest levels of psychotronic radiation in his system this morning. He is hereby ejected from the experiment, and placed into our decontamination chambers! He may begin submitting Brilliant Idea guesses as soon as he likes, 1 per day. Perhaps he shall be decontaminated and returned to us!

Now, everybody accuse each other heedlessly and decide who should be ejected next! There are no birthday surprises today. SOMEBODY is going to leave.

[Justin]

Wackie has appeared to Watt himself out! :shock:

[Jamul]

A recap:

Current Subjects:

31337
AtkinsSJ
Blackmyth
Chaucer
Coolguy
Dave Hettel
Diginova
Drgamer
Hammered
Julianmh102
Justin
Mossysox
Mr.Onion
PlasmaCannonsRule
Regeneratorizer
Roland
Wesley

Ejected Subjects:

WackieWatty (for contamination during Night 1)

[Coolguy]

Alright, since Jamul didn't post a list of players, here's one:

*drgamer
*diginova
*31337
*Dave Hettel
*PlasmaCannonsRule
*regeneratorizer
*Roland
*Mossysox
*Julianmh102
*Hammered
*chaucer
*Blackmyth
*Mr.Onion
*Coolguy
*Wesley
*Justin
*AtkinsSJ
*WackieWatty (Removed from Experiment, Night 1)

Now we have a bit of real evidence:

1) At least 1 anomoly is probably experienced and knows about how WW often meets his demise on Night 1. Unfortunately, almost all the players in this game probably know about WW, so this evidence doesn't help very much right now.

and 2) Somebody (possibly the anomaly leader, assuming that there's no power roles with PMs...) is a huge lurker. We could get rid of a lurker, I suppose, but there's still the chance that whoever was holding up night was actually a power role, so it might not be our best option.

Meh, that's all I have to say.

EDIT: Oops, Jamul posted a list while I was typing this- Oh, well.

[Roland]

I agree... A lurker, a lurker... Well, here's a list of people that didn't post at all on day 1:

Dave Hettel
Chaucer

Also, if there isn't an inspecting capability (which there probably isn't - Someone who had that power wouldn't exactly be 'normal'), not escorting anyone out of the chamber is useless, and gets us a Normal down, I just realized. I DO NOT encourage the cop, if there is one, to say who he is, however.

[Mossysox]

I agree... A lurker, a lurker... Well, here's a list of people that didn't post at all on day 1:

drgamer
Dave Hettel
Hammered
Chaucer



Hmm, very interesting...
Hammered posted twice on Day 1 (#18, #26), drgamer posted once (#25). I don't think it's like you to be easily confused, is it, Roland? Do psychotronic powers hurt the people who have them? :shock:

It was Chaucer's birthday on Day 1, so I'm not sure we can read too much into his silence.
Dave Hettel, on the other hand....

[Roland]

They did? Oops. Sorry about that. I'll remove them from the list. I had to have three tabs together simultaneously and I kept screwing and redoing the list, so I apologize for that.

[drgamer]

Yeah... I'm most certainly not a lurker...

[Hammered]

I didn't realize that starting the successful, albeit tongue-in-cheek bandwagon on the only person who was unlynchable on day one would be considered lurking. Will Roland consider this post a lurk, as well?

I guess that everyone is so used to my extensively long mafia posts that the short ones might seem like relative lurking, but give me a break! This is not very long, because there is not much evidence against anyone yet. Besides what Coolguy posted and Roland's lurker list, which is almost nothing, we have two other also miniscule pieces of evidence:

CG randomly voting Mr.O on day one (although he did say that he was joking)
Roland's falsely accusing me and drgamer of lurking (although he claims it was an honest mistake)I have seen nothing strong enough to influence me to vote yet, so I am withholding my vote for now.

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

Vote: Hammered. :twisted: For no reason.

[Mr.Onion]

Vote: PCR for being an evil, random-voting duck. :p

[WackieWatty]

Well, good morning people. It appears that I have already been carted off, so how I am talking to you all right now is a mystery to me....
Not much to say - it looks like I'm back to my good old 'Die first' days. Still, I'm intrigued as to how Hammered and Coolguy both survived!
If we have a cop, I believe they should step forward and the doctor (if we have one of them, too) should protect them. However, this would put players such as the above mentioned at risk, so it's up to you.

I shall return!!! (Hopefully)

[AtkinsSJ]

Firstly, I think that the no-first-day-lynch reeks of anomalous activity. I mean, hey, it means the anomalies avoid possibly losing on of their members.

I am therefore suspicious that Hammered leapt upon such an opportunity so soon, as she is certainly smart enough to work-out the advantage. However, it wasn't until later that Jamul confirmed this:
However, on this day alone, due to Chaucer's incredibly fine present, it is possible to avoid ejecting someone, if that is the group's desire.
And it is also beneficial to start with a night kill, in that there is then some evidence as to who is what. Not much, but meh.

Hmmm. I've just realised I don't know what my point is. But yeah. It could mean something or other. I know there's not much evidence around, and there's the point that Hammered is still alive. So:
VOTE: Hammered
Nothing personal, there's just not much else to go on.

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

Hey! What was that for?! Unvote and Vote: Mr. Onion!

[regeneratorizer]

Hrmm... You know, I think Atkins may have switched positions with me. Im usually the one stirring up crackpot theories about Hammered!

I dont find her particularly suspicious.... yet....

[AtkinsSJ]

Actually, he was entirely reasonable in voting for you.
EDIT: (To PCR)

[Hammered]

Although nobody except the anomolies know the exact number of anomolies, I was going on the usual percentages of good to evil, which is traditionally 3 to 1, which means that the anomalies who know just exactly who they are have a 100% chance of being able to successfully vote for a normal and the normals, who have no idea who anyone but themselves are have a 75% chance of accidentally choosing another normal. In other words, the chance of putting a normal out of the game when there is no evidentiary basis for selecting someone is typically 75%, or even more, considering the anomoly contingent. I therefor went with the choice dictated by the greatest chance of doing no harm and voted for the one person who was safe. Only an anomoly would be advocating an action which would result in a 75% chance of a normal being damaged!

Now that I have demonstrated the mathematical illogic of AtkinsSJ's position, I am hoping that he will correct his error. If he doesn't do so, I will finally have enough evidence to cast my vote!

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

Auugh!!!! Must....... Vote.....Hammered!

[Mossysox]

#17:
EXPERIMENTAL BIRTHDAY TO CHAUCER!
AS A PRESENT, HE SHALL BE IMMUNE TO VOTES TODAY.


#18:

Wow! Not even a night kill for evidence of how the anomolies are thinking! That makes this really tough! I don't want to be responsible for an innocents normal's demise though, so, for now, I will VOTE: Chaucer as a special Happy Birthday, because it won't hurt any of my fellow normals.

Looks to me like Mr Lab Director spoke first, making it very clear that a vote for Chaucer would be harmless.



Hmmm. I've just realised I don't know what my point is. But yeah. It could mean something or other. I know there's not much evidence around, and there's the point that Hammered is still alive. So:
VOTE: Hammered
Nothing personal, there's just not much else to go on.

That, on the other hand, looks suspiciously (highly suspiciously) like somebody trying to start a bandwagon.

[Mr.Onion]

Vote: Hammered. :twisted: For no reason.
You apparently didn't read far enough back.

[Dave Hettel]

I have this feeling that PCR is under vote control, or maybe mind control. No sane person would randomly change his or her vote so soon and so apparently randomly. Unfortunately, I've got quite the crowded schedule coming up, so I'm afraid I'll have to continue most of my lurking ways. Getting ready for college takes quite a lot of time, I'm sad to say. :'(

[Coolguy]

Atkins, just because Hammered's alive doesn't mean she's an Anomoly. :p (Even though Hammered often believes the same thing about WW)

As for your gasp, WW, it would be incredibly stupid to have the cop come out on Day 1- You're smarter than that! :p That's just going to get the cop killed as soon as the doctor dies, and the doctor might assume that the anomolies aren't going to take the chances of killing a cop and not protect him.

I find Atkins and PCR the most suspicious right now, because Atkins is going after Hammered randomly and PCR is (seemingly) pretending to be vote contolled.

[Wesley]

Wow, for once there's something happening! I can actually say something based on conversations! ...Not much, but I can say a few things. Anyway, here's my suspicions, ideas, etc.

drgamer - Hasn't said anything that makes me very suspicious of him, Though posting just to say you're not a lurker seems odd. Probably Normal.

diginova - Hasn't said anything one way or another. Probably Normal.

31337 - Only posted for the Chaucer bandwagon. Current Lurker. Unknown, Maybe Abnormal?.

Dave Hettel - Is currently getting ready for college. While he could be an abnormal, I believe that he's too busy to contribute, so I won't say much against him. Unknown.

PlasmaCannonsRule - I'm finding him strange. He random voted Hammered, then he voted Mr.O for voting him. While that's not really strange, he suddenly started to act vote controlled. I would think it is possible, but if he was, he wouldn't have been allowed to vote for Mr.O earlier. I think he's faking it. Maybe Abnormal.

regeneratorizer - Surprisingly, hasn't done anything suspicious yet. I find that suspicious. But seriously, I can find no reason to suspect him. Probably Normal.

Roland - Hasn't said anything that makes him sound like an Abnormal. Probably Normal.

Mossysox - Hasn't... At risk of repeating myself again, I'll just say Likely Normal.

Julianmh102 - Not saying much. Unknown.

Hammered - Is smart. I was surprised she survived the night, but I'm not going to vote her for it. Other then that, I can't say anything bad about her. Likely Normal.

chaucer - Is lurking a lot. Possible Abnormal.

Blackmyth - Isn't saying much. Unknown.

Mr.Onion - Voted PCR for random voting. Likely Normal.

Coolguy - Is also smart. I was also surprised that he survived the night, but I don't find him suspicious. Likely Normal.

Justin - Isn't saying much. Unknown.

AtkinsSJ - Voted Hammered. Unknown.

WackieWatty - Is no longer with us. Confirmed Normal, though it won't help us now. Or will it?

Well, there's what I think. I hate writing long posts. Later on in the game, I'll copy this and re-write it for my new suspicions.

[drgamer]

Well, we can't rule out the theory that there aren't multiple abnorm. groups JUST yet..., after all this game has quite a few twists...

[Julian]

Okay, we know that Chaucer isn't an anomoly, because if he was then he would have been able to be lynched.
Also, based off wesley's post, I'd like to
VOTE: 31337

[31337]

Vote: PCR
For reasons stated by Mr. Onion.

[Roland]

Can't you tell it's either vote control or PCR faking vote control? Remember Dave Hettel in game #18, when he faked mind control when he was actually just vote controlled? And remember when, after, Hammered said that you should just act normally, except with the off-beat vote? The only problem here is, that PCR doesn't actually have much to say, apart from the vote, so it doesn't seem all that strange. So it's less conclusive. But what's more suspicious is Atkins, who is also throwing around silly votes. Though his vote actually supports his 'evidence', so it sort of makes him more suspicious.

I don't know about you voting 31337 yet... You have just as good a reason to vote Atkins, but I can see where you're coming from.

P.S: Sorry about the list thing, DrGamer and Hammered!

[Hammered]

Well, I have left about five and a half hours for AtkinsSJ to change his vote, but he hasn't done so. That makes him the most suspicious by far on my list, so, for now and until (or unless) someone else does something more suspicious, I believe that I will have to VOTE: AtkinsSJ for believing that it would be better to risk a 75%+ chance of killing a normal over voting for someone that was in no danger and not risking anything. That sounds like the thought process of an anomoly to me. It's the exact same logic that Mr.O used in the last game when he was the godfather. In that game the town made the mistake of letting him live while they lynched townie after townie in his place. If I had been in that game, I would have tried to get him voted out in the very first round. I think that's the proper course of action here, too, so I hope after careful consideration of my logic that my fellow normals will vote with me.

[Roland]

Wait... But wouldn't it be, like, midnight where he lives now?

But we probably won't actually get a majority of votes before he wakes up. So, VOTE: AtkinsSJ.

Also, careful consideration of "your" logic? When do I get any credit? :p

[Coolguy]

Well, I have left about five and a half hours for AtkinsSJ to change his vote, but he hasn't done so. That makes him the most suspicious by far on my list, so, for now and until (or unless) someone else does something more suspicious, I believe that I will have to VOTE: AtkinsSJ for believing that it would be better to risk a 75%+ chance of killing a normal over voting for someone that was in no danger and not risking anything. That sounds like the thought process of an anomoly to me. It's the exact same logic that Mr.O used in the last game when he was the godfather. In that game the town made the mistake of letting him live while they lynched townie after townie in his place. If I had been in that game, I would have tried to get him voted out in the very first round. I think that's the proper course of action here, too, so I hope after careful consideration of my logic that my fellow normals will vote with me.

I most certainly agree with that, especially with him going against the no-lynch thing, too. :p VOTE: Atkins

[chaucer]

Sorry about the lurking, I haven't had much to say. Thank you all for the wonderful Birthday gift. Also, PCR is not vote controlled. Mind controlled, maybe, but not vote controlled. He said that he would vote Hammered for no reason. If he was vote controlled, he would know that the mafia would not vote for one of the Anomolies, and thus, would post some hint to his abnormality. So, he isn't vote controlled.

[Roland]

I don't understand what you're saying... Could you rephrase that?

[drgamer]

Random voting is bad, mmmkay?
Vote: Atkins

[Wesley]

I guess I'll...

VOTE:Atkins

[Coolguy]

It's an useless post anyways, because Chaucer forgot about how there might be more than one Anomoly team. :p

If Atkins really is an Anomoly, we'll probably be able to find out how many members are on his team (assuming we get PMed his role PM, saying 'You're an Anomoly, along with X, Y, and Z). This will help us determine whether there's more than one team.

EDIT: This post was responding to Roland's question.

[regeneratorizer]

Also, careful consideration of "your" logic? When do I get any credit? :p

I get that alot.... :p

Anyways, I will hold my vote for now - Atkins is far away... im not sure what time it is there, but I say we should give him a little longer to defend himself. After all, if he is an abnormal, it would seem far more suspicious not to defend himself than to try to defend himself. He probably just hasnt been at his computer yet. If I am satisfied with his reply, then I wont vote. If I am not, we get to eat Bird Stew! ...Or rather, we all get to watch Atkins leave. Yeah.

[Roland]

It's an useless post anyways, because Chaucer forgot about how there might be more than one Anomoly team. :p

If Atkins really is an Anomoly, we'll probably be able to find out how many members are on his team (assuming we get PMed his role PM, saying 'You're an Anomoly, along with X, Y, and Z). This will help us determine whether there's more than one team.

EDIT: This post was responding to Roland's question.

Thanks for clearing that up!

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

Ummm.... BANDWAGONING TIME FTW!!!!!!!Unvote Vote: AtkninsSSJ!!!!!!

[diginova]

Vote: AtkinsSJ

Why start a bandwagon for someone who has proven to help the town with her logical thoughts day after day?

[regeneratorizer]

*HOLD THAT VOTE*!

I was hoping I wouldnt have to do this, but...

Roleclaim time.

I am the cop(Or just A cop.. there could be more than one, but I dunno...) I just so happened to inspect Atkins last night(For the simple reason of him being alphabetically first(Though at the time I didnt notice 31337s name).. no real evidence to inspect on) and it came up as normal... So dont lynch him!

Bah.. well, now that I have roleclaimed(Atkins is most assuredly a townie! I could have told you that, even if I wasnt the cop! You made me waste an extra day of anonymousity, with your assumptions!) I would ask that a doctor protect me...

[Hammered]

You are all correct that AtkinsSJ is most likely asleep right now, but he had plenty of awake time before that to read and respond to my post. In addition, his brother WW was in the chat room when I posted that and I asked him to have his brother read that post, because I wanted to make sure he had read it before I reacted, specifically because of that huge time difference. I gave him many hours before deciding that he apparently wasn't going to respond and then I voted accordingly. And for the people I heard speculating about his local time, it is GMT+1 right now.

[Hammered]

Bah! Regen posted while I was typing that! Anyways, UNVOTE! I'll have to think about a replacement now!

[Coolguy]

I think Jamul would've made the cop thematically flavored, which makes me slightly doubt your roleclaim, Regen. :p I'll UNVOTE anyways, though.

[regeneratorizer]

Whether the cop has a theme or not - its still a cop. It is, of course ''Decorated'', but a cop nonetheless.

Is not a rose a rose by any other name?

... Ignore me, I find I am quoting shakespear more often than usual.

[31337]

Unvote: MrOnion
Vote: AtkinsSJ
Hammered is IMO the best player/host of this game and therefore I shall agree with her. (Unless her statements have anything to do with anti-spam in which case I worship rhubarb)

[drgamer]

Unvote
Meh.

[blackmyth]

Sorry for my lack of input, I've been quite busy lately, but I'd like to bring something up (and if there's a glaringly obvious reason, forgive me, I just skimmed through the past two pages, I'm leaving for Target in about 10 minutes). Why is it nobody's realized that regen and Atkins could both be abnormals, and regen is merely trying to cover for him? :|

[diginova]

Unvote, and Vote: Regen. I really don't think the town would get a cop, since they have the power of reincarnation anyway. Jamul's seen enough Mafiya to know that that would make the game totally unbalanced.

This is more of an FOS then a vote; I'll be sure to unvote before it's lynch, unless there is more suspicion than currently.

[Jamul]

It's still mid-day 2. Hope everyone is enjoying the amenities. Current votes:

Atkins x4
PCR
31337
Hammered
Regen

It takes 9 votes to choose an ejectee!

[31337]

YAY! Jamul is online! I can post!

Unvote: Atkins

[Roland]

Unvote, and Vote: Regen. I really don't think the town would get a cop, since they have the power of reincarnation anyway. Jamul's seen enough Mafiya to know that that would make the game totally unbalanced.

This is more of an FOS then a vote; I'll be sure to unvote before it's lynch, unless there is more suspicion than currently.

That would be stupid of an Anomaly to protect a fellow one like that: If one gets proven abnormal then the other is most assured abnormal. It's just too risky. Btw, I am Unvoting.

Also, what does FOS mean? I've seen it on the mafiascum website and don't know what it means.

[Mossysox]

... Only an anomoly would be advocating an action which would result in a 75% chance of a normal being damaged!

Now that I have demonstrated the mathematical illogic of AtkinsSJ's position, I am hoping that he will correct his error. If he doesn't do so, I will finally have enough evidence to cast my vote!

Vote: AtkinsSJ

Why start a bandwagon for someone who has proven to help the town with her logical thoughts day after day?

That still has to be the question, doesn't it?

I'd like to hear Atkins defend himself (and it is morning here now...).

Isn't it possible for inspections to show somebody as normal(/town) when they're not?

Also, PCR clearly isn't vote controlled, given the switch he just pulled. And what's that if it isn't Anomalous behaviour?

[regeneratorizer]

Isn't it possible for inspections to show somebody as normal(/town) when they're not?


As Onion may have pointed out in my game(Though he may have been a mafia there, he still held a good point) the simplest solution is usually the answer.

...Now, to go figure out why I am up at 4o'clock in the morning...

[Mr.Onion]

You are all individuals!
Yes, we are all individuals!

And thus, we will, all individually, Vote: AtkinsSJ :p

[regeneratorizer]

Nobody ever reads my posts... -.-;

[AtkinsSJ]

Well, I haven't seen the topic since I last posted, and will promptly UNVOTE: Hammered. I never work these things out mathematically.
I'm glad Regen inspected me, and while you're all free to decide whethere I'm normal or not, it'd be a mistake, in my opinion, to go for someone who has some possible evidence of being normal, when many have nothing. I don't know. Decide for yourselves what's more likely.
Um, I'll VOTE:PCR, for just going for everyone at random. I don't believe this mind-control stuff. I reckon he's just trying to get anyone lynched.

[Mr.Onion]

Hmm, I'm going to unvote Atkins, and hold my vote.

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

Wheepedee Vote: Unvote

[Jamul]

Status Report, Day 2, early afternoon:

The subjects seem agitated and unable to make a cohesive decision. I hope it won't become necessary to provide "encouragement." Just in case, I'll get the assistants to sterilize and sharpen the implements of encouragement.

Current votes:
Regeneratorizer
PlasmaCannonsRule
31337
AtkinsSJ

1 for each!

[Jamul]

A notice:

PlasmaCannonsRule snuck out of the lab compound during the night and spray-painted the words "I am mind-controlled in mafia" on the rocks. This was over on the west side of the island, where it's so rocky and jumbled that we just refer to it as "total mayhem". We've erased the words, but I know some of you have seen them out the window, so in the interests of fairness, I am announcing them to you all.

This wasn't serious enough to warrant a mod-ejection, but we will definitely tighten up security around here. If anyone else is caught putting messages outside of the chamber, they may be in for a quick trip back to the mainland!

[regeneratorizer]

Hrmm... I'm not so sure about PCR.. His claim could very well be true, but something about him just makes my mafia-senses tingle.... I still dont see any reason to cast a vote yet, so I shall wait and see........

[Hammered]

OK. Time to look at what is going on and evaluate it, but since I see you all rolling your eyes at the prospect of another huge Hammered post, I will try to keep this to just the individuals who seem the most worthy of further scrutiny.

Regen claims that he is a cop and that he investigated AtkinsSJ and found him to be innocent, despite the fact that Atkins made a fairly suspicious statement early on in today's voting. The possible conclusions are:
Atkins and Regen are both anomalies and Regen is trying to save Atkins from the fallout of his earlier mistake
Atkins is an anomaly and Regen is an insane cop so his reading of Atkins is backwards
Atkins is whatever and Regen is a naive cop so his innocent reading is the same as it would be for anyone else regardless of alignment.
Atkins is whatever and Regen is lying about being a cop in order to secure the protection of a doctor because he doesn't want to be put out of the game.
Atkins is normal and Regen is a regular cop so everything is as it was presented to us and Atkins earlier statement was merely a mistaken analysis
PlasmaCannonsRule is acting very oddly. He has posted outside of the game that he is mind-controlled, but all of his posts have been only vote related, so I am including simple vote-control in the discussion. The possible conclusions are:

PCR is mind-controlled by an unsophisticated player.
PCR is mind-controlled by a sophisticated player pretending to be an unsophisticated player in an effort to hide the identity of the mind-controller.
PCR is vote-controlled by an unsophisticated player.
PCR is vote-controlled by a sophisticated player pretending to be an unsophisticated player in an effort to hide the identity of the vote-controller.
PCR is faking the whole thing in order to make himself look like a normal, since he was the poor, unfortunate victim of a controller.
Diginova voted for Regen, even though Regen has claimed to be a cop. There is not enough evidence to determine the validity of Regen's claim. The possible conclusions are:

Diginova is an anomaly and wants to get rid of someone who might be a cop
Diginova is a normal and is just, as he says, pointing a finger or suspicion, which he intends to withdraw if it starts a bandwagon of Regen. This seems kind of dangerous to me.
Coolguy randomly voted for Mr.Onion as the first serious activity on day one. The possible conclusions are:

CG is an anomaly wanting to get rid of Mr.Onion.
CG is a normal making a joke, as he subsequently claimed.
A few people are lurking / semi-lurking, but I think we have some more serioius behavior to examine first. Lurking over several days is a likely indication of someone who has something to hide, but over this short of a period, they could just be temporarily busy. Let's revisit this in a week or so. Lurkers are encouraged to become less lurkful in the interim to save us the trouble of discussing them.For now I am not voting. I know there are those who just follow me blindly and I want to see some discussion on these points. Let's spend some time kicking a few of these ideas around and see what, if anything, turns up.

[regeneratorizer]

Hrmm.. I did not think about being Naive or Insane(well, more insane than usual).. It is possible that I am one of those, I wouldnt put it past Jamul.....

I guess we will find out later. If I live long enough.

[Mr.Onion]

Regen claims that he is a cop and that he investigated AtkinsSJ and found him to be innocent, despite the fact that Atkins made a fairly suspicious statement early on in today's voting. The possible conclusions are:
At this point, I think we should take this at face value, and see if anything points otherwise.

PlasmaCannonsRule is acting very oddly. He has posted outside of the game that he is mind-controlled, but all of his posts have been only vote related, so I am including simple vote-control in the discussion. The possible conclusions are:
As far as I can see, the only reason PCR would post outside the mafia topic would be if he WAS mind-controlled.

Diginova voted for Regen, even though Regen has claimed to be a cop. There is not enough evidence to determine the validity of Regen's claim. The possible conclusions are:
No idea. :confused:

Coolguy randomly voted for Mr.Onion as the first serious activity on day one. The possible conclusions are:
I'm not sure what to think about this, althogh I'm inclined to think he's joking.



See above.

[Coolguy]

I think the reason Jamul didn't modkill PCR was because he wasn't telling the truth about being mind controlled. :p

[diginova]

Let's just Unvote. Enough people saw the FoS already, so let's not even risk a bandwagon starter, since we don't know how many mafiya there actually are.

[chaucer]

I would guess that there are four anomolies.

[blackmyth]

I think the reason Jamul didn't modkill PCR was because he wasn't telling the truth about being mind controlled. :p
Agreed.

[regeneratorizer]

Hrmm.. Perhaps it is just me, but another point would be: Why didnt the mind controller control someone more.... persuasive? Like Coolguy, or Hammered.... PCR isnt really that persausive...

One answer could be the MC isnt very smart.
Another could be PCR is faking it(And going through lengths to let it be known - he could have been modkilled!)
Or there could be some other motives.... There is only one way to find out, but I will not be the first one to cast a vote.

[Mr.Onion]

Quickest answer: Because they can't impersonate Hammered or CG believably.

[Coolguy]

I still think PCR is quite a random choice for mind control. :p And impersonation hasn't been a factor in most of our games that used mind control- People still try to control the more experienced players.

EDIT: And if the MC's goal was to make us believe PCR isn't controlled, they're doing a very bad job.

[Roland]

For waffle's sakes, Coolguy was joking! :p The number of votes to eject were so high, that it would be very easy for people to realise, "Why are we voting him again?" I mean, COME ON! It's either terribly suspicious, or not at all.

I'm not sure if I entirely agree with Coolguy's statement about why PCR did not get modkilled was because it wasn't true. In Carnival Mafia, Coolguy said that even posting a fake role-PM was cheating, and a mod-killable offence. This is not an anology in the sense the PCR gets mod-killed, it is in the sense that the truth and the fake are considered the same thing. Also, I think it might have been because Jamul wanted quicken up the process of ejecting somebody.

Also, still on the PCR issue, I think he's mind-controlled. Why? Because if he was only vote-controlled, he would have said something slightly substantial, but with that irregular vote. But now he's only voting, and with silly statements that are not like him at all. There's that, or he's faking the whole thing: He very well could be getting us to think he is this or that, which is what some of you have mentioned.

If so, who is worthy of a vote, then? Why, I think it was the same person as last game: Mr.Onion.

Firstly, Vote: PCR for being an evil, random-voting duck. :p

This is the post straight after PCR voted Hammered. Now, he did not even consider the fact that PCR could be mind-controlled or vote-controlled or whatever.

Secondly, You are all individuals!
Yes, we are all individuals!

And thus, we will, all individually, Vote: AtkinsSJ :p

You're obviously not reading the thread if you don't know why this is suspcious.

Also, I'm not sure what he means with this post: You apparently didn't read far enough back.

This was after PCR said, "VOTE: Hammered. For no reason. :twisted:" Is he saying that if you look back at the thread more carefully, you'll find a reason to vote Hammered?

I am inclined to VOTE: Mr.Onion, partially because there's no-one better to vote for.

[Jamul]

The votes keep changing, but they don't seem to be building up any steam!

We have:
PlasmaCannonsRule
Mr.Onion
31337
AtkinsSJ

1 for each.

Yes, the punishment (or lack in this case) is the same whether what you illegally say is true or false.

[chaucer]

Vote: AtkinsSJ

[31337]

Sorry for lurking, I have WoW addiction. O_o

I can't really think of something useful to say, sadly.

[Mossysox]

Nobody ever reads my posts... -.-;

That needs to change.
...
Another could be PCR is faking it(And going through lengths to let it be known - he could have been modkilled!)
Or there could be some other motives.... There is only one way to find out, but I will not be the first one to cast a vote.

If Regen is a cop, why would he think there was only one way to find out what's going on with PCR? (Nice touch not to want to be the first to cast the vote.) Not even an insane or a naive cop would forget he actually was a cop and could inspect somebody, would he?

It's not enough to make me vote - it is, as Hammered says, too dangerous right now. But I'd like to hear Regen explain his amnesia. Especially since he's the only reason I haven't already voted for AtkinsSJ.

PCR's behaviour is just too weird to call.
Yes, the punishment (or lack in this case) is the same whether what you illegally say is true or false.
And it wasn't his birthday this week, yet PCR's still with us. Which tells us - what?
Has anybody ever been mind-controlled outside the game?

As for Mr Onion, I think Roland's got a point, he has been acting suspiciously. Especially with post #100.

But I'm also puzzled by Chaucer. Why vote Atkins, when Regen says he's a Normal? He hasn't given any reason for it. And I certainly don't think Chaucer is 'proven Normal' just because he was given a birthday present on day 1. I can't see the Laboratory Director signposting somebody that early or that easily.

So, despite the fact that those 'encouragements' don't look like they're chocolate flavoured, I'm still not ready to vote.

[Roland]

It's pointless discussing what's happening with PCR, so let's just wait 'till tommorrow. If he's alright and claims that he was mind-controlled, then that's great. But we can't do anything now.

As for Chaucer... That post was so strange that I don't even know what to think. Please explain, Chaucer.

So the moral of the story is... Don't act so strangely!

[Mr.Onion]

If so, who is worthy of a vote, then? Why, I think it was the same person as last game: Mr.Onion.

Firstly,

This is the post straight after PCR voted Hammered. Now, he did not even consider the fact that PCR could be mind-controlled or vote-controlled or whatever.

Er..No, because I was making a joke more than anything else. If that had turned into a bandwagon, I would have unvoted.

Secondly,

You're obviously not reading the thread if you don't know why this is suspcious.
Explain for the lurkers. :p


Also, granted, it is sensible for people to not vote mindlessly, but you do have to get a huge number of votes in this game, and only so much discussion is possible, especially if one person posts just about all the reasoning avaliable.

This was after PCR said, "VOTE: Hammered. For no reason. :twisted:" Is he saying that if you look back at the thread more carefully, you'll find a reason to vote Hammered?

That was in response to the post above saying that Atkins was trying to start a bandwagon, and I pointed out that PCR voted first.

[regeneratorizer]

If Regen is a cop, why would he think there was only one way to find out what's going on with PCR? (Nice touch not to want to be the first to cast the vote.) Not even an insane or a naive cop would forget he actually was a cop and could inspect somebody, would he?

It's not enough to make me vote - it is, as Hammered says, too dangerous right now. But I'd like to hear Regen explain his amnesia. Especially since he's the only reason I haven't already voted for AtkinsSJ.


Mainly because I believe that PCR would be the one to vote today... He is, in my opinion, the most suspicious, and I was trying to nudge others into voting him. I know very well I can inspect him, but the question is: Will I have to? While it may seem like a good idea to inspect him at night, somebody is going to have to leave before then, and, like I have said, I think PCR is the most suspicious.

(Nice touch not to want to be the first to cast the vote.)

Why, thank you. If said lynchee is actually a townie, the first person to start a bandwagon looks suspicious. And, unlike some previous games, I do not have a death wish.

[Hammered]

I posted the reasons I was interested in my last post when I asked for discussion, and I still haven't seen enough discussion to motivate me to vote, ao I would like to be more clear. I would most like to hear from the people I find suspicious on the topic list below. A few others have chimed in about various other things in the interim or their opinions of the people on the list, but I am sure that everyone would most appreciate hearing from the individuals in question.

So, how about it, Regen, AtkinsSJ, PlasmaCannonsRule, Diginova , and, to a lesser extent, Coolguy? We'd like to hear from you so we can make up our minds.

[Coolguy]

Okay, I'll post my thoughts. :p

I still suspect that Regen is lying, but it's too much of a risk to lynch a possible cop (or lynch the also-suspicious Atkins, because he was inspected). We'll have to wait for further investigations to get more info on his role...

As for Mr O, Roland, you're evidence isn't all that much- Most certainly not enough for a lynch. We could have Regen inspect Mr O, though, if Regen truly is a cop and not nieve.

I don't think PCR is mind controlled, but if he is, we have some evidence that will help to find who the mind controller is. If you look back at his posts. He posted 3 times within 3 hours, so the controller is probably not a lurker. These posts were also in the morning, so that means that Roland probably isn't a mind controller, considering his time zone.

I think PCR is the best choice for a lynch, personally, but I'd like to hear from certain semi-suspicious lurkers (Justin, Chaucer, 31337, and Julian) before day ends- They're hiding, and we don't want any lurking anomalies to end up winning the game. :p

[regeneratorizer]

So, how about it, Regen, AtkinsSJ, PlasmaCannonsRule, Diginova , and, to a lesser extent, Coolguy? We'd like to hear from you so we can make up our minds.


Meh, alright.. not too sure what to post, so I'll just post my thoughts like CG.

On Regen: Well, Anomaly or not, you probably know what im going to say. There is nothing I can do at the time(Short of posting my role PM, which I am not going to do) to prove my townie-ness, so I guess we just wait.

On AtkinsSJ: As soon as I am proven good, so will he(Well, unless I am insane of something - possibility, but I doubt it). I firmly believe this person to be a townie, despite some.. suspicious behaviors.....

On PCR: You probably know what I think about him.... But I am rather torn about whether to vote him or not.. the more I think about it, the more confused I get. My head hurts...

On Diginova: Ahh - Diginova, my voter... Voting me, a person who could be a cop... I see his reasoning, but it would probably be much better to wait a day or two, so we can prove if I am who I say I am.

On, to a lesser extent, Coolguy: Coolguy voted Onion on the first day as a joke. No doubt in my mind.

So... yeah.

[AtkinsSJ]

On Regen: I'm a bit doubtful about his cop-ness. It's the sort of thing he'd pull as a stunt in order to protect himself, though that doesn't mean he isn't telling the truth. I also know that this makes me look really bad. I'm inclined to trust him for the moment, but you're free to make up your minds. I'm not part of any of it if there is some plan. (Though you probably won't believe it. :p)

On PCR: Frankly, I'm quite annoyed. "Don't vote me, I'm mind-controlled!" is pretty cliched these days, and I don't trust it one bit. I'll hold my vote for him.

On Hammered: Yeah, I trust you now, because you normally go all quiet if you're mafia. But that doesn't mean very much.

On Diginova: Voting someone who claims to be a cop, when there are many others who are more suspicious, is a bad move. Then again, if Regen is as trustworthy as he usually is, fair enough.

On Coolguy: Nothing either way, I think. I'm pretty sure he was joking by voting Onion.

[Coolguy]

Julian, after re-reading the topic, I'd be especially interested to read your thoughts and suspicions. :p And to make sure that happens, VOTE: Julian as a wake-up call, to stop you from just hiding like you're already doing. (Note- Nobody bandwagon on that vote)

[diginova]

The only reason I voted Regen was to bring up discussion about his coppiness (is that a word?)... there is absolutely no way that he will be lynched today, so the vote was mainly to draw attention. This is also replying to Hammered:Diginova voted for Regen, even though Regen has claimed to be a cop. There is not enough evidence to determine the validity of Regen's claim. The possible conclusions are:
Diginova is an anomaly and wants to get rid of someone who might be a cop
Diginova is a normal and is just, as he says, pointing a finger or suspicion, which he intends to withdraw if it starts a bandwagon of Regen. This seems kind of dangerous.Even if I was an anomaly, I wouldn't do something as stupid as trying to start a bandwagon against someone who roleclaimed as a cop without further discussion... I suggest to Regen to investigate someone that we think is an anomaly to make sure whether or not he is insane / naive.

And now that discussion has started, let's just Unvote until people actually start speaking. - ds

[Jamul]

And the tension continues to build as the game continues to go nowhere...

1 vote each for:
PlasmaCannonsRule
JulianMH102
31337
Mr.Onion

2 for AtkinsSJ

Just a few more votes for Atkins and he's on his way out! And by few, I mean 7. 9 Votes needed to eject!

The sun is dipping low in the sky here, subjects. It can't be too much longer until night falls!

[regeneratorizer]

I suggest to Regen to investigate someone that we think is an anomaly to make sure whether or not he is insane / naive.



..This is not the best idea - for what if the person you think is an anomaly is actually a townie? The only way to prove if I am not insane/naive would be to inspect someone proven good, and I think we are in short supply of the proven-good townies.

[diginova]

But that wouldn't prove naivete, only insanity. If they are naive, they think everyone is townie, no matter who they investigate. - ds

[Roland]

Wait 'till tommorrow for PCR! Mind Control (or vote control) only lasts a day!

Okay, as for Mr.O... Yeah, yeah, I'm convinced.

Okay now... Who to vote? No-one. So... Let's scare a lurker! VOTE:Julian.

[Justin]

[quote=Coolguy;129389I don't think PCR is mind controlled, but if he is, we have some evidence that will help to find who the mind controller is. If you look back at his posts. He posted 3 times within 3 hours, so the controller is probably not a lurker. These posts were also in the morning, so that means that Roland probably isn't a mind controller, considering his time zone.[/quote]

To add on to that, it would be quite a task to send and receive 3 different messages in 3 hours time. That plus the way he's acting is not PCR really, it's more likely then not he is attempting to fake it all. How has the need to fake a mind-control other then a abnormal?

I wish to VOTE: PCR.

[Justin]

Wait 'till tommorrow for PCR! Mind Control (or vote control) only lasts a day!

I don't find anyone else more then even very slightly suspicious, and no-lynch isn't an option.

[Roland]

Just wait until tommorrow! It holds our answers to this question! Though, what I didn't have in mind, is that PCR could be faking it now, and then could claim that he was mind-controlled the next day. So, now that I think about it, tommorrow doesn't hold our answers. And the actual chance of getting an Anomaly with a lurker is slim. So, VOTE: PlasmaCannonsRule.

Also, lurkers: SPEAK UP! We want to hear your thoughts and opinions!

[Dave Hettel]

My thoughts and opinions all currently revolve around making sure whether I've got everything packed to go to college. As for this experiment, I'm not exactly sure what to believe. As I've said before, voting for someone just because he or she is lurking is not a good idea, as most everybody who does it has a legitimate reason to do it. There's nothing I've really got to add to your discussion, so I'm going to reserve my vote until there's a better argument for voting someone. Somebody act remarkably suspicious, please, so we can vote to eject you. Thanks. ;)

[regeneratorizer]

Well then, I would like to VOTE: PCR for reasons stated....

We arent getting anywheres, and somebody needs to be lynched...

[Coolguy]

Meh, I guess I can bother Julian into reading the topic tommorow. Still, Dave and Justin woke up, and that's something.

UNVOTE, and VOTE: PCR

[Wesley]

This is getting to be a long day... Anyway, UNVOTE and VOTE:PCR

[Justin]

Meh, I guess I can bother Julian into reading the topic tommorow. Still, Dave and Justin woke up, and that's something.

UNVOTE, and VOTE: PCR

I've been awake for a long time, just had nothing to say.

[31337]

Vote: PCR

[diginova]

It's the most suspicious thing I've heard so far, and Jamul's probably going to deadline it shortly anyway.

If he is townie, I apologize for making too rash of a decision, however now we know that we have a mind/vote controller in our midst.

さようなら.

Vote: PCR - ds

[Justin]

It's the most suspicious thing I've heard so far, and Jamul's probably going to deadline it shortly anyway.

If he is townie, I apologize for making too rash of a decision, however now we know that we have a mind/vote controller in our midst.

さようなら, PCR.

Vote: PCR - ds


Actually, we don't know... HE could be faking it, which is what I suspect and why I am voting him.

[diginova]

But if he does turn out to be town, and he better speak up quick if he is and explain why he voted that way since it's L-1, I am almost positive we have a vote/mind controller, since an intelligent player like PCR wouldn't do something to get himself lynched like that, especially after what happened in Mafiya 18. Now, if he's abnormal, it's a different story. - ds

[chaucer]

Here's just a little thought: the anomolies (assuming the mind controller is an anomoly) controlled julian to silence him and PCR IS faking it. Of course, there's always the possibility that there is no mind controller and PCR is an anomoly taking advantage of our lack of knowledge in the role department. Either way, I say Vote: PlasmaCannonsRule

[Jamul]

HOORAY FOR RAPID FIRE BANDWAGONS!

At long last, though this day seemed to last many days for some reason (perhaps some interaction between psychotronic radiation and chronotons? I hope not... that could be quite serious), night has fallen, and the vote is completed.

PlasmaCannonsRule, pack your things and get out that door! You may make a final short statement before you exit, but nothing more. Your fellow subjects have decided you are not contributing to the scientific merit of this experiment.

All Normals have now been privately notified of PlasmaCannonsRule's status.

PlasmaCannonsRule, you may of course now (or later) make guesses as to the brilliant idea. See the first post of this thread for specific details on how that works.

IT IS NIGHT 2!

Anomalies, please contact me to let me know who you are focusing your psycho-mentative energy on.

Current subjects:
31337
AtkinsSJ
Blackmyth
Chaucer
Coolguy
Dave Hettel
Diginova
Drgamer
Hammered
Julianmh102
Justin
Mossysox
Mr.Onion
Regeneratorizer
Roland
Wesley

Ejected subjects:
WackieWatty (irradiated)
PlasmaCannonsRule (voted out)

[Jamul]

SUBJECTS! Sorry to interrupt your rest like this, but we have an important announcement, then you can get back to sleep.

The "government" has just come through with our second round of funding! That means we can afford to use our phone lines more often. So from now on, ejected subjects may make Brilliant Idea guesses once per night and once per day, instead of once per night/day pair. This should provide more entertainment to the lab director, and that is of course the most important thing. You are all my little monkeys. Dance, monkeys, dance.

I mean, collect useful data, subjects, collect useful data.

P.S. Please note that you must make your private call during the night or day to which it applies. You can't say "Oops, I missed the night, I'll make 2 guesses during the day." We only have so many Evening & Weekend Minutes.

[Jamul]

There is definitely some strange temporal interference going on here. I'm sorry to interrupt your sleep again, but since you've been sleeping for more than 36 hours, you're probably quite well rested.

It seems we can't rely on the natural cycles of day and night to function properly with so much psychotronic radiation flying about. Thusly, I will simply have to declare it to be morning, no matter how dark it is, in FOUR HOURS. Yes, that is the shortest deadline in history, and I don't care. If I don't end night soon, whoever is being irradiated will be so flooded with P.M. energy, they could be in serious medical risk! The experiment was intended to only irradiate these victims for a normal night's span.

(out of character: I want this game to be fun for the people who actually want to play it. By lurking and dragging out the night phase, where people who ARE playing can't even push it along, the lurkers are sucking all the fun out of it. So they are getting a punishment smaller than a modkill: the removal of their night powers anytime they can't get them in in a reasonable time)

[Jamul]

IT IS (as far as we're concerned) DAY 3!

Though it still seems dark out, we're calling it day. After a careful scan of psychotronic levels, it seems that Regeneratorizer is the most infected. And dangerously so, considering how long that night lasted. We are rushing him into decontamination, and he can say a final statement from in there, if he is able to speak. He may of course also work on doing Brilliant Idea guesses to return. Hopefully we can have him decontaminated enough to make that wise.

The rest of you have a job to do! Vote somebody out of the experiment!

Current subjects:
31337
AtkinsSJ
Blackmyth
Chaucer
Coolguy
Dave Hettel
Diginova
Drgamer
Hammered
Julianmh102
Justin
Mossysox
Mr.Onion
Roland
Wesley

Ejected subjects:
WackieWatty (irradiated, night 1)
PlasmaCannonsRule (voted out, day 2)
Regeneratorizer (irradiated excessively, night 2)

Note: all PMs did end up arriving, one way or another, though one was actually after the deadline.

[regeneratorizer]

Dave Hettel is mafiascum. Lynch away, townies!

/lastgasp

[drgamer]

I see no reason why not to believe that, as of yet...so
Vote: Dave Hettel

We shall avenge you Regen!

[Coolguy]

Voting off Dave would prove Regen's inspecting capabilities just in case he gets revived, and if Dave turns out to be good, then we can get Atkins. :p Either way, we get rid of an anomoly and there's a 50% chance of having a proven normal (and it would get rid of a lurker/possible hider, too), so I currently think the best choice is to VOTE: Dave Hettel.

[Jamul]

Off to a rollicking start today, we have 2 votes for Dave Hettel. That wasn't really worthy of a recap post, I'm just posting to let you all know that it's 8 votes to eject today.

[Wesley]

Well, I guess a cop would have been targeted by the Anomalies as soon as they found out about it. Still, it's not over yet. We can still get one of them by going through Dave and Atkins. If one's not evil, the other is.

VOTE: Dave Hettel

[diginova]

He seems rather sure of himself, and there a couple of hints from earlier... also, going with the Inspector is always useful, even if there is a small chance he would be anything other than normal.

Vote: Dave Hettel

It's still L-4, so he's still going to be able to defend himself.

[Justin]

Vote: Dave i guess.

[31337]

Vote: Dave

[Dave Hettel]

Well then, seeing as I'm leaving for college in about twelve hours and will have no time afterwards for a last gasp, I guess it is only fitting that my death come on time. Since six of you have already voted for it, I might as well admit that there is no possible way of me surviving this day, no matter what my allegiances might be. Let us just hope that those who fight for the same freedoms that I do will be able to guess the Brilliant Idea and return so that I may be avenged.

If I am allowed, I would like to vote to eject myself.

[Hammered]

Well, it takes 8 to lynch and I just got home from work, so if Dave's vote is permitted, it is up to me to do the honors and Vote: Dave Hettel. Regen's word is good enough reason.

[31337]

Yeah, Regen is pretty dependable.

[diginova]

I guess Dave's vote doesn't count, so it's still L-1

[Jamul]

Curiously, the rules do not mention self-voting. Well, far be it from me to intervene. If you want off the island, how can I say no? There's nothing standing between you and freedom other than a platoon of armed guards, robotic sentry cameras with machine guns, a shark-infested lagoon, and of course the wolves. Lots and lots of wolves.

So I accept Dave's resignation and the cumulative vote. Dave shall be escorted safely out, and if he does wish to return, he knows the way - get Brilliant!

IT IS NIGHT 3!

I eagerly await notice of any night-time activities that need to be shared. Doesn't it seem like the psychotronic/chronotonic interactions are worsening? This day lasted about 9 hours! We really need to study this mysterious time flux. Apologies to those of you who slept through it (our European subjects... guess they are jet-lagged) and didn't get to participate or be brilliant.

I am now sending private notification of Dave Hettel's status to all Normals. Good night, folks!

Current subjects:
31337
AtkinsSJ
Blackmyth
Chaucer
Coolguy
Diginova
Drgamer
Hammered
Julianmh102
Justin
Mossysox
Mr.Onion
Roland
Wesley

Ejected subjects:
WackieWatty (irradiated, night 1)
PlasmaCannonsRule (voted out, day 2)
Regeneratorizer (irradiated excessively, night 2)
Dave Hettel (wandered off, day 3)

[Jamul]

IT IS DAY 4!

Wow, time flies when time is horrifically distorted. But the sun is up and shining bright, so it's a wonderful day. Well, for everyone but Hammered. She has the highest levels of psychotronic radiation, and so she will be escorted from the building to be decontaminated and studied. As always, she may make brilliant guesses to find her way back!

The rest of you must now elect a new person to be yoinked! It takes 7 votes to dispose of someone.

Current subjects:
31337
AtkinsSJ
Blackmyth
Chaucer
Coolguy
Diginova
Drgamer
Julianmh102
Justin
Mossysox
Mr.Onion
Roland
Wesley

Ejected subjects:
WackieWatty (irradiated, night 1)
PlasmaCannonsRule (voted out, day 2)
Regeneratorizer (irradiated excessively, night 2)
Dave Hettel (wandered off, day 3)
Hammered (irradiated, night 3)

[Jamul]

By the way, for you science buffs, there's been an interesting discovery as a result of the research so far.

It seems that psycho-mentative focus and psychotronic radiation have a different relationship than we previously assumed. The logical original concept was that PM focus simply sent out waves of psychotronic energy, which would then accumulate in the subject. This does not appear to be true at all!

If it were true, then the number of anomalies focusing on the victim would directly relate to the level of psychotronic radiation we find (each one adding a certain amount of radiation). It does not. Rather, the PM focusing appears to open some sort of rift, if you will, allowing psychotronic energy to flow into the world. So no matter how many anomalies are focusing on the victim, the psychotronic levels increase at a constant rate. The levels we're reading seem to directly correlate to the time the victim is focused upon, without regard to the number of anomalies focusing.

It's all very interesting! You can read about it in my paper, hopefully to be published in this quarter's Psychotronica.

[drgamer]

Let us all give a moment of silence to honor our beloved Hammered, may she reign over the chatroom in peace... er... or something like that...
*moment of silence*


Anyways, we need to avenge our fellow norms!

[Julian]

Okay, I was lurking because I was away for the last two days. I was at fort Henry.

[Hammered]

See my post #108 for additional reasoning; I only have 100 words.

I'm suspicious of these active people:

AtkinsSJ
Coolguy
Diginova
MrOnion

and these ejectees:

DaveHettel
PlasmaCannonsRule
Regeneratorizer

I include ejectees in case they return. Most of these were on my original list. I added Dave, for virtually admitting his duplicity and MrO, because he seemed upset about the four hour deadline yesterday. Perhaps he is a member of a group that consults with one another before they PM?

I'll try to hurry back to help you, my fellow normals! Wish me luck as I wish the same to you!

[drgamer]

Onoes! Hammered was evil!
How do I know?:
3 - Anyone who is a Normal will be privately messaged by the lab director upon a completed vote, to be told whether the subject ejected was a Normal or Anomaly. This information will not be made public by the lab, but no restrictions are placed on what subjects may say to each other within the experimental chamber, except that they may not speak during the night. We all need our rest!
Note how some of the "ejectee suspects" of Hammered were voted out! Hammered would have been able to know 100% either way if she was a norm!

So, obviously there would have to be multiple groups... After all, anon. would probably not kill their own members...

[Coolguy]

I was about to post the major flaw in Hammered's gasp, but it appears DrG has already posted it. :p We know not to trust her again, at least- Anyways, on with my post:

Now, I currently have 3 major suspicions, but I'll post my biggest one, which happens to be against the evil Anomalonion!

I include ejectees in case they return. Most of these were on my original list. I added Dave, for virtually admitting his duplicity and MrO, because he seemed upset about the four hour deadline yesterday. Perhaps he is a member of a group that consults with one another before they PM?


I have a screenshot of this, if nobody believes it. Mr O wanted to extend the deadline- Apparently, he was an anomaly, and his Godfather was a lurker. Yesterday, we kicked out a lurking anomaly, and now this night ends much more quickly! Mr Onion is an anomaly, and was allied with Dave Hettel. Also...

Note: all PMs did end up arriving, one way or another, though one was actually after the deadline.
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Judging from that ''one way or another'', I'm guessing that Mr O ended up sending his kill choice for Dave Hettel, and Jamul let him do it because he was sick of Mr O's whining. :p

So, yeah, VOTE: The Diabolical Onion!

[drgamer]

This just in! Hammered mafia chatted to me in the chat! Onoes! (I was mentioning that I posted in chat, about my previous post, which I'll leave unedited, as per making it not suspicious or anything (and double checking with Jamul, just to make sure)
Hammered:Anomaly
Drgamer: Huh?
Hammered:Twisting the words of an innocent normal
Hammered:I only had 100 words
Hammered:you try to fit it all in
Hammered:The normals already knew and I didn't want to give anything away

Now, two things about that don't make sense to me: 1) there were a few words that could have been gotten rid of. Enough words to add two words: "Townie" and "anomaly"
2) Yeah, we normals would already know, but so would the anomalies, after all they know who isn't in their group, plus they are trying to get rid of those NOT in their group

Now to answer Coolguy's post: Uh... Dave was voted out, not 'killed'

Anyways I suppose that's good reasoning....
So: Vote: Onion

[chaucer]

The Reasoning is agreeable. Perhaps we should wait to hear from Mr.Onion first, perhaps he has a counterargument. For now, I will just hold my vote until we hear from him.

[Coolguy]

Oh, wait, it might not have necessarily been Dave who was Mr O's Godfather- It probably was actually Julian, considering that he was gone several days- the same length as the night before last night, and now that he's back, the PMs got in a lot faster (Mostly proving he had a PM). Julian is actually Mr O's godfather! :p

Meh, I'll say my suspicions now, even though I'll probably be killed for them (I'm too lazy to go quote-hunting, but you can find these if you read the topic):
Mr Onion
Julian
Chaucer

I'm going to assume that this is an entire anomaly team, because more than 3 people on each anomaly team with 2 anomaly teams would make the game extremely unbalanced against the normals.

Chaucer and Julian have constantly protected each other all game, and they have a history of giving away their Mafia buddies, and apparently, this game is no exception. Here are some quotes:

Okay, we know that Chaucer isn't an anomoly, because if he was then he would have been able to be lynched.
Also, based off wesley's post, I'd like to
VOTE: 31337

Here's just a little thought: the anomolies (assuming the mind controller is an anomoly) controlled julian to silence him and PCR IS faking it. Of course, there's always the possibility that there is no mind controller and PCR is an anomoly taking advantage of our lack of knowledge in the role department. Either way, I say Vote: PlasmaCannonsRule

These completely random protections are not coincidences. :p (They've done plenty of other evil stuff too, like hiding and voting Atkins after he was inspected, but I'm too lazy to hunt down more quotes.) I already figured out these two were anomalies a while ago, and I tried to get Julian to wake up and possibly give away more of his buddies, but Chaucer just did it instead. :p Mr O is the final anomaly to this anomaly team of 3. Now, let's get rid of them!

[Roland]

Posting a long and detailed explanation of why I should vote Mr.Onion is useless: You people (mainly consisting of Coolguy :p) said it all! VOTE: Mr.Onion. And we've exposed another anomaly, Julian! Boo yeah! I'm a tad suspicious of Chaucer, for semi-protecting the Onion. I know this is an unfair accusation to make, but the fact that Chaucer didn't bandwagon is slightly suspcious. Meh, it's probably just me and my gut. It gets paranoid like that.

[Mr.Onion]

I was about to post the major flaw in Hammered's gasp, but it appears DrG has already posted it. :p We know not to trust her again, at least- Anyways, on with my post:

Now, I currently have 3 major suspicions, but I'll post my biggest one, which happens to be against the evil Anomalonion!

I have a screenshot of this, if nobody believes it. Mr O wanted to extend the deadline- Apparently, he was an anomaly, and his Godfather was a lurker. Yesterday, we kicked out a lurking anomaly, and now this night ends much more quickly! Mr Onion is an anomaly, and was allied with Dave Hettel. Also...

Judging from that ''one way or another'', I'm guessing that Mr O ended up sending his kill choice for Dave Hettel, and Jamul let him do it because he was sick of Mr O's whining. :p

Oh, wait, it might not have necessarily been Dave who was Mr O's Godfather- It probably was actually Julian, considering that he was gone several days- the same length as the night before last night, and now that he's back, the PMs got in a lot faster (Mostly proving he had a PM). Julian is actually Mr O's godfather! :p


I'm fairly sure you're not allowed to use Out-Of-Character info like that. :roll:
Also, I wanted to extend the deadline because 4 hours is ridiculously short.

I'll post more later, I need to go now.

[Roland]

It's not cheating. Because it's not "actual" proof, it's just assumptions. However likely and convincing they are, it's not "actual" proof. Or is it?

The most important thing, however, is that you're PWNIFIED.

[Mossysox]

Well, I'm a little confused. It's probably all this sleep I've been having lately. I bedded down at Night, and when I woke up, it was Night again. It's a little disorientating. So perhaps somebody could explain this business about Mr Onion posting somewhere about wanting to extend a deadline?
I'm fairly sure you're not allowed to use Out-Of-Character info like that. :roll:
Also, I wanted to extend the deadline because 4 hours is ridiculously short.
I'll post more later, I need to go now.

I thought posting anything about the experiment anywhere outside this thread was against the rules?

That makes me suspicious in itself, and even if we can't use that as evidence (can we? I don't know), we certainly can use Mr Onion's post on the subject.

Why would anybody want to extend what was already a very long night, unless they were an Anomaly? Add to that the 'can't talk now, I'll explain properly later' ploy and I'm persuaded. Vote: Mr Onion.

[AtkinsSJ]

Yeah, I'm convinced. Firstly, that Onion is an anomaly, and secondly that Coolguy is sneaky and cunning, like, um, a jellyfish.

VOTE: Mr Onion

Oh, and though I'm not normally a reader, I'll make sure to pick up a copy of Psychotronica, if and when I leave the facility in one piece, in fully working condition.

[chaucer]

Coolguy, on that quote from me in your post, I was just pointing out a possibility. I wasn't trying to protect anyone.

[Mr.Onion]

Just to dispell judgement on that front, I will post again.

On the subject of the deadline, you have read the General Mafia Rules, right? What if one of our power roles were in Europe or something? Nobody past about GMT+4-5 is going to be awake at the start of the 4 hours, let alone the end of it.

Also, CG is using a lot of OOC information, like using Julian's lurking patterns to show that he is mafia, and Roland's timezone to show that he isn't.

Also (again), CG's logic depends on my ulterior motives for extending the deadline, other than being reasonable?

[Jamul]

Seems someone is popular in here today!

Votes:
Mr. Onion x5

2 more will get him ejected.

Please be aware that chatting outside of the chamber is entirely prohibited, but if someone does it, it's not only allowed, but necessary, that somebody bring that information into the chamber. Otherwise, the select few who heard the original chatting will benefit. If everyone hears it, then it's just as if it were spoken in the chamber to begin with! Of course, if the external speaking is done by an ejectee, it's all the worse, because they aren't allowed to be speaking in the chamber. Still, we bring it in for that same fairness reason.

Players are encouraged to employ any source of information they can find. And vice versa, players are strongly encouraged to avoid leaving any information around for people to employ! The fact is, once information exists, you can't put it back in a bottle. To prohibit discussing it just means advantage for the anomalies - if they knew something, they could always discuss it amongst themselves. If normals know something and aren't permitted to discuss, then just one normal knows it. After all, if you know someone's timezone or vacation times, you would automatically factor that into your thinking. You can't avoid it. Therefore, not being able to discuss it just makes it unbalancing - anomalies wouldn't choose to share it so they are happy, and normals would want to, but couldn't.

So, in short: no chatting outside of the chamber! Stop doing it! There are no restrictions (okay, there's common decency) on what you can say within the chamber.

You all need to trust the lab director. He knows what's best, and all shall be revealed in the fullness of time*.

Warning: time may vary on Brilliant Island.

[Coolguy]

Just to dispell judgement on that front, I will post again.

On the subject of the deadline, you have read the General Mafia Rules, right? What if one of our power roles were in Europe or something? Nobody past about GMT+4-5 is going to be awake at the start of the 4 hours, let alone the end of it.

Also, CG is using a lot of OOC information, like using Julian's lurking patterns to show that he is mafia, and Roland's timezone to show that he isn't.

Also (again), CG's logic depends on my ulterior motives for extending the deadline, other than being reasonable?

Mr O, info from outside the game is a flaw that will never be stopped until Jamul makes that possible Mafia game maker that makes everybody anonymous, and Jamul already pointed out how censoring it would give an advantage to the anomalies. :p

Now, as for your defense, the Europeans in this game, Atkins and WackieWatty, both don't lurk- Of course they had to have come around within those 42 hours or so of night before the deadline was even posted, and you know that as well! Not to mention that the deadline was made while the Europeans were still awake. That's not a very good defense...

[diginova]

I'm not going to be able to post for the next 72 hours.

A rather nasty storm swept through the area, and took out all the local power lines, as well as most of the local trees, and they're predicting I won't get power back until Sunday or Monday.

[Wesley]

All of this is more then enough to make me... VOTE:Mr.O

[Jamul]

Mr. Onion is hanging by a thread... one more vote and he is ejected! Will anyone else receive any votes?

[Julian]

I'll VOTE: Mr. Onion to end this all right now.

[31337]

Vote: Mr. Onion for good measure

[Jamul]

SO SAY WE ALL.

Goodbye, Mr. Onion. You may of course return through extreme brilliance, and all Normals have been privately informed of your status.

IT IS NIGHT 4!

Anomalies, inform me of your intentions!

Current subjects:
31337
AtkinsSJ
Blackmyth
Chaucer
Coolguy
Diginova
Drgamer
Julianmh102
Justin
Mossysox
Roland
Wesley

Ejected subjects:
WackieWatty (irradiated, night 1)
PlasmaCannonsRule (voted out, day 2)
Regeneratorizer (irradiated excessively, night 2)
Dave Hettel (wandered off, day 3)
Hammered (irradiated, night 3)
Mr. Onion (ejected, day 4)

[Jamul]

I think you guys are more deeply asleep than you are supposed to be! Very few night PMs received. Anybody? Anybody?

[Jamul]

IT IS DAY 5!

Scans reveal that Diginova is the most irradiated. Again, it was a disturbingly long night, so we are somewhat concerned for his health. But our earlier experience with Regeneratorizer has proven that we do have the ability to repair this damage. I assure you, he is doing quite well.

BIG NEWS, EVERYONE!

WackieWatty has returned to the experimental chamber! Utilizing massive brainpower, and probably intense cheating, he has discovered the brilliant idea. He will join you all today as you vote for the next victim to be ejected from the experiment. Choose wisely, as only 11 subjects remain. It takes 6 votes to confirm an ejection.

Current subjects:
31337
AtkinsSJ
Blackmyth
Chaucer
Coolguy
Drgamer
Julianmh102
Justin
Mossysox
Roland
WackieWatty (irradiated night 1, returned night 4)
Wesley

Ejected subjects:
PlasmaCannonsRule (voted out, day 2)
Regeneratorizer (irradiated excessively, night 2)
Dave Hettel (wandered off, day 3)
Hammered (irradiated, night 3)
Mr. Onion (ejected, day 4)
Diginova (irradiated overmuch, night 4)

[Coolguy]

Diginova's an odd choice for a kill. Hmmm...

Anyways, considering that I was right about the evil anomalonion, I'm going to continue with my current theory and VOTE: Chaucer. :p

And yay, we have somebody back from the dead! :D My current guess is that WW is normal, considering that he died on Night 1.

[Julian]

Diginova's an odd choice for a kill. Hmmm...

Anyways, considering that I was right about the evil anomalonion, I'm going to continue with my current theory and VOTE: Chaucer. :p

And yay, we have somebody back from the dead! :D My current guess is that WW is normal, considering that he died on Night 1.
Okay, this is confusing. I think that if he was a normal, he'd be able to give his buddies away. :???:

[WackieWatty]

Hello everyone! It's nice to actually be a proper part of the experiment at long last.

Diginova seems a surprising choice in my opinion. How come CG has lasted so long? Whereas Hammered and I have not? Seems very suspicious.
Also, he always seems to be one of the first to vote during the day, I don't trust him at all:???:

Therefore, I VOTE: COOLGUY

[AtkinsSJ]

Again, I don't see why Diginova of everyone was chosen. But I guess that's just how it goes.
Given we were right about Onion, it just makes sense to VOTE: Chaucer. At least, unless someone has something big and convincing to say on the matter.

[WackieWatty]

Given by that quick post by AtkinsSJ, I assume that he is working with CG as a fellow anomaly. Why else would he follow CG so eagerly and vote so soon in? Still,I'm sticking with CG for now.

[AtkinsSJ]

Huh? Coolguy was proven right with his suspicions, so I'm following with the rest of it. Why wouldn't I?

[31337]

CG looks suspicious, but I wouldn't vote yet.

[chaucer]

Yes, CG was right about Mr. Onion's anomolyness, but what evidince does he have against me?

[Jamul]

Pardon folks, minor error in our calculations - with WackieWatty's return, there are 12 subjects, so it takes 7 votes to eject someone.

Current vote standings:
Chaucer x2
Coolguy x1

[WackieWatty]

Well, as I've been dead most of the game, I haven't been notified of people's roles when they have been lynched off.

However, out of interest, who got told that Onion was Evil? And who got told that Onion was good? I want honest answers. Everyone must comment, or I will instantly find them suspicious...
We may be able to find out if CG is telling the truth or not!

[AtkinsSJ]

Well, obviously I got 'evil'.
You're going a bit dictatory, aren't you?

[Coolguy]

Wow, WW, that was stupid. :p If you look back at the kills, most of them have been better choices than me!

Night 1- WackieWatty died, as tradition dictates.
Night 2- Regeneratorizer died, because he was a cop.
Night 3- Hammered died, because she's a genius.
Night 4- Diginova died, but I have no idea about this.

3/4 of those nights were better kill choices than me. (And as for Diginova, was he a power role, or something?)

I think what's really suspicious is the person who's going after the most active experienced player alive for stupid reasons instead of going after people with real evidence against them. :p

And, looking back, my post about WW being probably good was pretty dumb, because I forgot that there's probably multiple anomaly teams! I can't believe I wasn't suspicious of his gasp...

Well, good morning people. It appears that I have already been carted off, so how I am talking to you all right now is a mystery to me....
Not much to say - it looks like I'm back to my good old 'Die first' days. Still, I'm intrigued as to how Hammered and Coolguy both survived!If we have a cop, I believe they should step forward and the doctor (if we have one of them, too) should protect them. However, this would put players such as the above mentioned at risk, so it's up to you.

I shall return!!! (Hopefully)

This post is Mafiatastic on 2 levels- 1) He's randomly going after me and Hammered because he died instead of us- That's terrible evidence, since there'd only been one night! And then 2) He's trying that stupid cop-role-claims trick - As soon as a doctor dies, we'd lose our cop, and Regen fell for it! WackieWatty is smarter than that.

I have to say, I'm still completely sure that Julian and Chaucer are eviltastic, but I'm (mostly) sure about WW as well (and he's more of an anomaly threat). So, yeah, VOTE: WackieWatty.

[WackieWatty]

Thankyou, CG. I have finally got you to openly turn against me.

So, why would you go to that much effort, just for me? Well, it's obvious that CG is afraid that I'll get him lynched and is trying to get me lynched first. As for the 'multiple groups thing', I agree. But that doesn't make me an anomaly.
It's blindingly obvious to me that CG and Atkins are part of a team of anomalies. They killed me Night 1. Night 2 Regen died, so it looked as if he really was a cop, making Atkins innocent. Night 3 Hammered, CG's rival. Night 4 Diginova, I don't know. Of course, somewhere in there must be the other group's kill.

I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT CG IS AN ANOMALY

[Julian]

I'll VOTE: Coolguy!

[Mossysox]

I think what's really suspicious is the person who's going after the most active experienced player alive for stupid reasons instead of going after people with real evidence against them. :p

I couldn't agree more.

Wackie Watty, you may as well be wearing a t-shirt with 'I'm an Anomaly, please remove me' written on it. Without so much as a hint of evidence, or any attempt at all to be persuasive, beyond noticing the fact that he's still alive, you walked back into the chamber and voted Coolguy. When the only half-way suspicious thing Coolguy's done so far has been to say that he thought you were a Normal, because you were killed on the first night, and to overlook the oddness of your last gasp - and he's just corrected that.

I can't see how you can possibly be mind-controlled, unless the Anomalies were told in advance that you'd be returning, and I'd have thought the Lab Director would've mentioned that he'd be doing that at the beginning of the experiment, if that was a serious possibility. So although I am now a little concerned at the possible long-term effects of psychotronic radiation, I'm going to vote: Wackie Watty.

[Jamul]

Current standings:

Coolguy x2
WackieWatty x2
Chaucer x1

[Roland]

YES! FINALLY! THE DAY CAME!

*Ahem* In other news... I agree with all of you about Wackiewatty! That attack on Coolguy was pretty... Misjudged. And he was randomly attacking poor old Atkins, for believing someone who's been consistently right. You know what? VOTE:Wackiewatty.

He COULD be mind-controlled, but it's more likely that not he's a baddie.

[drgamer]

Vote: Wackiewattie
Pretty clever of him to sneak in a way to find out if everyone was good or evil, and quite possibly find out the status of Onion

[chaucer]

I'm going to Vote: WackieWatty.

[Jamul]

Maybe the subjects are jealous of his brilliance? It seems that WackieWatty's return to the experimental chamber is likely to be short-lived. We currently have these votes:

WackieWatty x5
Coolguy x2
Chaucer x1

7 votes to eject.

[31337]

I'll just Vote: WackieWatty

[WackieWatty]

Why? I really don't see the point in voting me off.

WHERE HAVE YOU ALL BEEN THIS GAME?
It appears that either you've all missed half of what's going on, or you're trying to cover up for something...

This is probably the last (live) post I'll make, so at least read it...

What evidence have you got that CG is a Normal? 'Consistenly right'? What do you mean by that, Roland? As far as I'm concerned CG has tricked you all well. He hasn't been right at all. How do I know? Well, I know none of you got told that Onion was 'an anomaly'.
Secondly, I voted CG to make a point. It's easy to get rid of me in a game of mafia (as previously demonstrated). I'm sure that if I'm not lynched off today, CG will surely kill me tonight. Whereas, I believe you're going to struggle to get rid of CG - This was your one good chance and, well, it appears you've blown it.
Everyone should know how CG plays by now. He does almost exactly the same play every time he's mafia - earn people's trust and then start loads of bandwagons, killing off the opposition. It's the same in this game, I just wish you'd realise that.
One last point: You all seem to think I'm an anomaly, even though I died on night one. Why is this? Is it because CG said he believes there are multiple groups? Even so, how and why does CG believe something like that?

I would wish you all luck, but frankly you don't deserve it :p Also, I know the circumstances of the game. So yeah, CG, I believe your group has the right to win now. Well done...

[Roland]

Wackywatty, next time you go on a rant... Try not to contradict your self.

Firstly, CG tried to get rid of you? I think it's the other way round. You just went and started attacking CG, your only reason being that he hadn't been killed off yet.

And this is not how CG plays as a mafia. I must say, if you look back at games where he's a mafia, he usually doesn't get as heated in the discussion, letting the town do the lynching for him.

That said, CG isn't proven good. I'm just saying that there isn't enough evidence to eject him.

[WackieWatty]

And if you'd seen how I play as a mafia, you'd know I'm not stupid to enough to randomly vote for someone like CG without good reasoning.

[AtkinsSJ]

Seems we need to get rid of this guy, before he offends someone.
UNVOTE. Vote: WackieWatty

[Jamul]

Well, that was a very short return. I hope WW didn't unpack his bags!

Wackie will be escorted from the chamber again, though he probably knows the way. He may make a final statement as usual (final messages may be posted at night, if desired).

IT IS NIGHT 5!

Anomalies, inform me of your anomalous intentions.

Current subjects:
31337
AtkinsSJ
Blackmyth
Chaucer
Coolguy
Drgamer
Julianmh102
Justin
Mossysox
Roland
Wesley

Ejected subjects:
PlasmaCannonsRule (voted out, day 2)
Regeneratorizer (irradiated excessively, night 2)
Dave Hettel (wandered off, day 3)
Hammered (irradiated, night 3)
Mr. Onion (ejected, day 4)
Diginova (irradiated overmuch, night 4)

WackieWatty (irradiated night 1, returned night 4, ejected heartlessly day 5)

[WackieWatty]

See? Told you all I was good! I hope you'll all believe me about CG now.;)

I have little else to say, really. Errr.... Bye!

[Jamul]

IT IS DAY 6!

Big news from the night. There's been some sort of backlash from the interaction of chronotons and psychotronic radiation. There was a tremendous flash of light that completely obliterated the ... er, 'safety' cameras in Blackmyth's sleeping pod. When the guards investigated, they discovered that Blackmyth was no longer himself! He had completely been transformed, perhaps had his very essence swapped with someone from another part of history! He is now replaced by Cheeselord.

But we must move on, nonetheless. Especially as we draw closer to the final results! Scanning the radiation levels, we find that Coolguy has the highest levels. He is being escorted to the exit right now, and will be permitted final words from the safety of the decontamination module.

The rest of you who remain must now vote on someone to eject from the experiment. It takes 6 votes to dispose of someone.

And be careful! Who knows what could happen next. It's simply irresponsible to let this experiment continue in light of the completely unpredictable and dangerous effects. So we will!

Current subjects:
31337
AtkinsSJ
Cheeselord (replaced Blackmyth via a temporal rift)
Chaucer
Drgamer
Julianmh102
Justin
Mossysox
Roland
Wesley

Ejected subjects:
PlasmaCannonsRule (voted out, day 2)
Regeneratorizer (irradiated excessively, night 2)
Dave Hettel (wandered off, day 3)
Hammered (irradiated, night 3)
Mr. Onion (ejected, day 4)
Diginova (irradiated overmuch, night 4)
WackieWatty (irradiated night 1, returned night 4, ejected heartlessly day 5)
Coolguy (irradiated night 5)

[drgamer]

Interesting, we've got a Doctor Who here. If you don't get that reference, then no cookie for you!

Well, I guess Coolguy was getting too close to the truth or something...

[Coolguy]

Curse you, evil anomalies! Anyways, normals, continue with lynching Julian and Chaucer, and then figure out the other anomalies yourselves. Right now, I'm guessing Hammered, Blackmyth, and Justin. I'm still suspicious about Hammered because of her gasp mistake (her argument wasn't very good), BM is suspicious because he normally doesn't lurk this much, and Justin is suspicious because of his lurking and some suspicious stuff before he started hiding.

Also, sorry WW, but really, you got yourself lynched and wasted your own revival.

Unfortunately, I won't be revived anytime soon, because I have no idea about the Brilliant Idea. G'bye! :p

[drgamer]

Curse you, evil anomalies! Anyways, normals, continue with lynching Julian and Chaucer, and then figure out the other anomalies yourselves. Right now, I'm guessing Hammered, Blackmyth, and Justin. I'm still suspicious about Hammered because of her gasp mistake (her argument wasn't very good), BM is suspicious because he normally doesn't lurk this much, and Justin is suspicious because of his lurking and some suspicious stuff before he started hiding.

Also, sorry WW, but really, you got yourself lynched and wasted your own revival.

Unfortunately, I won't be revived anytime soon, because I have no idea about the Brilliant Idea. G'bye! :p
Well, blackmyth was replaced... so you also fail at having a completely accurate gasp! So... it would be a help to know how many anomalies are alive...

Also, Coolguy might be on Mr. Onions team, however unlikely it is (which can't really be proved right... but it CAN be proved wrong [which I think it will be sometime])(the 'won't be returning soon' thing...

[CheeseLord]

I'm not exactly sure what's happened so far, so could someone please fill me in?

[Justin]

Well, blackmyth was replaced... so you also fail at having a completely accurate gasp! So... it would be a help to know how many anomalies are alive...

Also, Coolguy might be on Mr. Onions team, however unlikely it is (which can't really be proved right... but it CAN be proved wrong [which I think it will be sometime])(the 'won't be returning soon' thing...

I'm guessing more like Coolguy, roland and atkins on a team, they've been voting together very strongly.

[Roland]

Um, Jamul, Coolguy is still on the current subjects list.

Anyways, I must say that there's two people I've been keeping my eye on the whole game...

Okay, we know that Chaucer isn't an anomoly, because if he was then he would have been able to be lynched.
Also, based off wesley's post, I'd like to
VOTE: 31337

Where did that assumption of Chaucer being townie come from?

Vote: AtkinsSJ

And then Chaucer voted Atkins after he had been proven good!

Here's just a little thought: the anomolies (assuming the mind controller is an anomoly) controlled julian to silence him and PCR IS faking it. Of course, there's always the possibility that there is no mind controller and PCR is an anomoly taking advantage of our lack of knowledge in the role department. Either way, I say Vote: PlasmaCannonsRule

And then there's this 'possibility' that Julian is being silenced. Hmmm.

The Reasoning is agreeable. Perhaps we should wait to hear from Mr.Onion first, perhaps he has a counterargument. For now, I will just hold my vote until we hear from him.

And now he he is again, stalling for time, hoping that his evil Anomalonion buddy doesn't get ejected.

I'll VOTE: Mr. Onion to end this all right now.

And then he ends this terrible ordeal, he just doesn't want to feel the pain any more! It's like killing an ant that's almost dead, putting it out of it's misery (poor ant!). It's hard for me to explain, but the way he said, "to end it all right now", well, I could tell what he meant.

Okay, this is confusing. I think that if he was a normal, he'd be able to give his buddies away. :???:

And here he is, protecting Chaucer again. I can't actually make sense of what he's saying, but I can tell he's protecting him in some way.

I'll VOTE: Coolguy!

And here goes Julian again...


So, take your pick: Chaucer or Julian? I'm going to VOTE: Chaucer and would advise everyone else to, as well.

[Mossysox]

I'm not sure about the 'ending it all right now' part, and I take a different view of

I think that if he was a normal, he'd be able to give his buddies away. :???:
which looks like rank terror that WW would know that julianmh102 was NOT a Normal to me, but otherwise, I entirely agree with Roland's reasoning. Julian and Chaucer are both Anomalies, and as there's nothing to be gained by splitting the vote, I Vote: Chaucer

[AtkinsSJ]

Yeah, I'll Vote: Chaucer again.

I have, well, nothing to say. Meh.

[Jamul]

That's 3 votes for Chaucer, and pretend Coolguy isn't on that list so I don't have to click on the previous page.

[Julian]

I VOTE: Myself. I'm getting a bit bored.

[Roland]

I VOTE: Myself. I'm getting a bit bored.

This confirms my suspicions of Julian being the final anomaly of this evil posse.

[chaucer]

Not necessarily, he could just be getting a bit bored.

But anyway, if he protected me (the second to last quote in R's big post), why does that mean I'm an anomoly? Perhaps it was a clever anomoly trick, devised by him. Anyway, Vote: Julian

[Roland]

You protected him, too. :p And plus, I don't think Julian puts THAT much effort into mafia games to think of that. I dunno. But anyways, I'll probably die tonight: So take my word for it!

[Jamul]

3 votes for Chaucer, 2 votes for Julian.

[drgamer]

Meh.
Vote: Julian

[Wesley]

Well, I still don't trust Chaucer, but if Julian is suicidal anyway...

Vote:Julian

[31337]

Let's help with the suicide bandwagon.

VOTE: Julian (needs more Zoloft)

[Jamul]

Julian has FIVE votes! One more will end it all for him. Or at least kick him out of the chamber.

Chaucer has 3 votes.

And just a note to the people who have been ejected. Only a few of you have been submitting Brilliant Guesses. I recommend you all do! Remember, you can guess anything you want, so by guessing just a single fact, you can find out if it is true. That'll get you one step closer to returning, and if you are an Anomaly, you can help your team out with the information. The guessing isn't just a wacky way to return to the game - it is a major part of the game!

[chaucer]

True. Okay, maybe he was doing the same thing I was, which is pointing out a possible possibility.

[Jamul]

WELCOME BACK, DIGINOVA!

We have our second proven-brilliant subject. No doubt you will all dispose of him in a fit of jealousy again. So resume your voting!

It still takes 6 votes to eject someone, as there are now 11 subjects.

[Mossysox]

Well, if julianmh102 is so keen to leave us, I won't stand in his way. Unvote, and Vote: julianmh102.

[Roland]

Err... I may as well Unvote and VOTE: Julianmh102, but why did you all switch to voting him anyway? Wouldn't it have been quicker if you voted Chaucer? Meh.

[AtkinsSJ]

Meh. Unvote. Vote: Julian.
I suspect this might be a delaying tactic, to try and keep the votes mixed long enough to create evidence against someone else. But if everyone switches over to Julian, it makes little difference.

[Jamul]

FIN DE VOTE!

Well, that was serious overkill. Julian has 8 of the 6 votes he needed.
Julian is being escorted from the chamber, all Normals are being informed of his status, and etc. with regard to the things he may now do.

As soon as Julian has left the room, the chamber seems to feel a bit less oppressive.

IT IS NIGHT 6!

Anomalies, clue me in.

Current subjects:
31337
AtkinsSJ
Cheeselord (replaced Blackmyth via a temporal rift)
Chaucer
Drgamer
Diginova (irradiated overmuch, night 4, returned day 6)
Justin
Mossysox
Roland
Wesley

Ejected subjects:
PlasmaCannonsRule (voted out, day 2)
Regeneratorizer (irradiated excessively, night 2)
Dave Hettel (wandered off, day 3)
Hammered (irradiated, night 3)
Mr. Onion (ejected, day 4)
WackieWatty (irradiated night 1, returned night 4, ejected heartlessly day 5)
Coolguy (irradiated night 5)
Julianmh102 (ejected, day 6)

[Jamul]

Ah, a nice quick night! These time fluctuations are disorienting.

IT IS DAY 7!

Justin is the most irradiated person in the experiment, and thus he shall be removed for your safety. He can do the various things we've already heard he can do.

So, all you people, get to it! It takes only 5 votes to eject someone now.

Current subjects:
31337
AtkinsSJ
Cheeselord (replaced Blackmyth via a temporal rift)
Chaucer
Drgamer
Diginova (irradiated overmuch, night 4, returned day 6)
Mossysox
Roland
Wesley

Ejected subjects:
PlasmaCannonsRule (voted out, day 2)
Regeneratorizer (irradiated excessively, night 2)
Dave Hettel (wandered off, day 3)
Hammered (irradiated, night 3)
Mr. Onion (ejected, day 4)
WackieWatty (irradiated night 1, returned night 4, ejected heartlessly day 5)
Coolguy (irradiated night 5)
Julianmh102 (ejected, day 6)
Justin (irradiated, night 6)

[diginova]

Why would Justin be nightkilled? And I'm back, so I'll be looking over the thread shortly and will post something useful soon... I may be able to find the answers to my question.

[drgamer]

So.... Justin must have gotten too close to the truth, assuming that it isn't a low down anomaly trick...
So possibly Atkins or Roland?

[CheeseLord]

I'm still not entirely sure I know what's going on, but then, I rarely do. From what I've read, there seems to be a lot of evidence against Chaucer. I'm not going to vote yet, because I'm still more than a bit confused.

[Roland]

So.... Justin must have gotten too close to the truth, assuming that it isn't a low down anomaly trick...
So possibly Atkins or Roland?

Firstly, WTHBBQ?!?11/1!

Secondly, it's just as likely to be some sort of frame up as it is to be true. It's possible that I, an anomaly (which I'm not, by the way), killed Justin. However, it's just as likely that the Anomalies killed Justin to make you think this. Also, he didn't really have any sort of argument against us, and in my Mafia Tips thread, I said as a tip for mafia, is not to kill somebody who would sort of give you away. It wasn't very long since I wrote that, and why, if I were an Anomaly, would I not follow my own advice?

VOTE: Chaucer. Why? Well, just look at one of my previous posts.

[Mossysox]

It's possible that I, an anomaly (which I'm not, by the way), killed Justin. However, it's just as likely that the Anomalies killed Justin to make you think this. Also, he didn't really have any sort of argument against us, and in my Mafia Tips thread, I said as a tip for mafia, is not to kill somebody who would sort of give you away. It wasn't very long since I wrote that, and why, if I were an Anomaly, would I not follow my own advice?

It could be a double bluff - and I do find the timing of that other thread a bit suspicious. It's nothing like enough to make me vote, though.
I'm going to have to think about this.