Mafia Game #22

[WackieWatty]

Once upon a time (this morning) a (very) short man with a large, bushy moustache left his house to go to the shops to buy a loaf of bread. This man wore a large, yellow hard hat and mumbled lots.
(Not-at-all) Wacky-ville was usually a quiet town, and today was no exeption - Until....
Mr. Watty, munching on his fresh loaf, left the shop, only to be shot (not in the head, because of his hard hat). He stumbled, before picking himself up and continuing the walk home. His killer stared in amazement, before legging it in fear.

That's right, people. No killing the host this game, because he has ZOMBIE powers!

Welcome to this very NORMAL game of mafia. Yes, it definitely is a normal game... nothing unusual (apart from the Zombie Host).

Normal Mafia rules apply, plus my very special No-lurking rule:

~I do not want lurkers in this game. If you do not post for 2 consecutive days (without a good reason) you get replaced!

So, here's a special (alphabetised) player list:

AtkinsSJ;
Cheeselord;
Coolguy;
ElMikkino;
Hammered;
happystickman;
julianmh102;
Mossysox;
Mr.Onion;
PlasmaCannonsRule!;
Roland;
Wesley

Here's a list of Roles:

Townie;
Townie;
Townie;
Townie;
Townie;
Townie;
Mason;
mason;
Mason;
Mafia;
Mafia;
Mafia;
Godfather;
Cop;
Doctor;
???;
???;
???;
ZOMBIE

So, let the game begin! It is DAY 1

[AtkinsSJ]

Um, hi people.

[Mr.Onion]

Townie;
Townie;
Townie;
Townie;
Townie;
Townie;
Mason;
mason;
Mason;
Mafia;
Mafia;
Mafia;
Godfather;
Cop;
Doctor;
???;
???;
???;
ZOMBIE

Er... Can we not have a half-open setup, please?:p

[happystickman]

OH NO! A Zombie! He will kill us all! *acts all parinoid*

[Mossysox]

Hi, everyone!
Yup, that just about says it all for now...

[CheeseLord]

My guess is that WW is the ZOMBIE, but I am curious as to what the ???s do.

[AtkinsSJ]

So... 7 people have dual roles. Which could be bad. Also, good. But I'm a pessimist, so I'm going to go with bad for now.

[CheeseLord]

I would think it's 6 (read the first post carefully), and they are most likely the masons and the ???s. I can see why they were split apart, but I don't know why that wasn't done with the cop or the doctor.

[Roland]

Hello! I am of absolutely no use yet, but I'll see what the three ??? powers (which could be associated to another role) COULD be...

There are three unknowns. Since Wackiewatty is going at some lengths to explain that this is a NORMAL game of mafia, the only three relatively common roles I can think are the Inventor, Vigilante and the Roleblocker. Um... Numerical coincidence? Remember: Wackie has devised a tricky open set-up here: Some of the roles overlap. Say, a mason could have a ??? power, one of the mafia is obviously the Godfather, etc.

However, I am finding WW's keeness to explain that this is a NORMAL game of mafia a little suspicious. Maybe this is not as normal as we think?

[Hammered]

Let's see, we have twelve players plus a host and nineteen roles. The host has role-claimed as the ZOMBIE, so that leaves eighteen roles for twelve people. Aside from attaching the godfather to one of the mafia and the cop and doctor to two of the townies, I don't see what else we can assume right now. That ??? thing just doesn't provide much in the way of a clue, so I guess we will have to wait until somebody helps us out with a little hint.

That's about all I have to offer for the moment regarding this particular game, so I will stop for now, except to say that the signups for Mafia Game #23: Spamumufia have been posted and pasted in Total Mayhem for those who are interested in participating.

[Coolguy]

4 Mafia in a 12-person game!?!? :shock: EDIT: Oh, yeah, the Godfather and a Mafia would count as one- That's okay.

EDIT: And not only that, but the game starts on day, giving the Mafia a free lynch? Gah, that's not helpful.

Double-EDIT: Oh, yeah, VOTE: No Lynch.

[Wesley]

I'd go with a no lynch for now, as it's too risky to lynch someone right away. Vote:No Lynch

[CheeseLord]

I agree. Vote: No Lynch.

[Hammered]

Of course, it's up to our host if it is allowed or not, but if it is, I will VOTE: No Lynch

[happystickman]

Ditto Vote:No Lynch

[Julian]

I, having no suspicions at all, will not vote yet, so that people can be more suspicious. VOTE: No Lynch

[Roland]

VOTE: No Lynch!

Sorry, I would've done it earlier, but my cousins came over.

[Mossysox]

I'd like to VOTE: No Lynch, too, if possible. It's not like anybody's done anything suspicious yet.

[AtkinsSJ]

EDIT: And not only that, but the game starts on day, giving the Mafia a free lynch? Gah, that's not helpful.

Hey, if we start on a night the mafia also get a kill straight in. There's no winning solution, really. Except if we lynch, there's a chance we'd get a mafia.

Also, I'm unconvinced that the 'ZOMBIE' is WW. I reckon there could be a zombie actually playing, especially as so far this game seems designed to confuse people.

[ElMikkino]

Ello ppl! Ma first post eva in mafia:D! VOTE: NO LYNCH!

[WackieWatty]

Oh yeah... I forgot to mention that we have 12 players, so it's 7 votes to lynch!

No lynch - 9 votes (9 people)

The townsfolk gathered in the town square where Mr. Watty had been shot. However, they could find no trace of him, so they went home for the night!

It is Night 1! Please send me PMs, people-who-need-to-send-PMs!

[Roland]

I know I'm posting at night, but I'll be gone for three days. I don't think you'll need a replacement, because about half of that time will be night. Anyways, bye!

[WackieWatty]

Day dawned on the town and people soon began to wake up and leave their houses.
One man, by the name of err... well, he forgot it, actually..... Anyway, he saw a ZOMBIE walk past his house. In surprise he ran out the front door only to see...

AtkinsSJ was dead!
Role: ??? - It's a SEKRIT!

Who commited this most deadly of deeds? I don't know.... do you?

It is now Day 2. Vote off who you think is most suspicious. There are 11 players left alive (a list of of which I will post in a minute), so it's 6 votes to lynch.

EDIT: Here's a player list for you all to enjoy!

AtkinsSJ; (Deadified, Night 1)
Cheeselord;
Coolguy;
ElMikkino;
Hammered;
happystickman;
julianmh102;
Mossysox;
Mr.Onion;
PlasmaCannonsRule!;
Roland;
Wesley

[Hammered]

Well, AtkinsSJ is gone, but that role doesn't really help us out much or does it? I guess we can conclude that at least one of the ??? roles was not mafia, as the mafia are not in the habit of night killing one another. Lynching to try to fool the town, yes, but not night killing. As for finding the guilty parties, there isn't actually much to go on yet, but I am keeping my eye out.

[Mossysox]

Hmm, trouble is, there isn't a great deal to see at the moment. I am a bit suspicious of PlasmaCannonsRule for not posting at all on Day 1, but not enough to make anything of it yet.

[WackieWatty]

Just a quick notice:
I would usually give you a time limit for days and nights... however this is the first real lynching day, plus Roland isn't here (and may return before day is out), so I will leave it up to you all for today!

[ElMikkino]

I'm not voting yet, but I remember that Atkins said that he was going to not be on the forums for some time because of his sixth term, so it must be someone who didn't want Atkins to come back, and he got him while he was down. So, who doesn't really like Atkins who is playing?

EDIT: It might also be a person who's scared of him, becasue nobody know what ??? means. I think it might be someone who's paranoid in real life. So, who is it...It might be happystickman, he didn't sign up for the last game. But I'm holding my vote.

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

Sorry about my absence...... Anyhow, I have nothing to say, except that I've been very buisy.

[Coolguy]

Why Atkins!?!? That seems rather strange, especially since both Hammered and me are around.

Anyways, WW, does Atkins have a gasp? You didn't say so. If he does, he could reveal what his role was.

[happystickman]

Did Atkins do anything to offend or pretend kill or something else like that to anyone? Grudges and rivalies have led to night kills.

[CheeseLord]

It might also be a person who's scared of him, becasue nobody know what ??? means.
That would mean the mafia already knew he was a ???. Because I don't think he could also be a mason, they must either have the cop or one of the ???s has some kind of investigation power. I don't find this too likely, but I don't find it too suspicious either.

I can't think of a good reason anyone would have chosen to kill Atkins though. And unless his role says he can't, I would like to hear him say what his role does.

[ElMikkino]

I think that I have a pretty good idea who it is. Remember how Hammered had to host Game #21 after blackmyth went away? Well, Atkins wouldn't be on that much because of sixth term, so Hammered wanted to get rid of him so something like that wouldn't happen again. So, I VOTE: Hammered!

[Hammered]

I think that I have a pretty good idea who it is. Remember how Hammered had to host Game #21 after blackmyth went away? Well, Atkins wouldn't be on that much because of sixth term, so Hammered wanted to get rid of him so something like that wouldn't happen again. So, I VOTE: Hammered!I'm not voting yet, but I remember that Atkins said that he was going to not be on the forums for some time because of his sixth term, so it must be someone who didn't want Atkins to come back, and he got him while he was down. So, who doesn't really like Atkins who is playing?

That is patently ridiculous. How can a player being occasionally inactive possibly compare to having the host go inactive? A distracted player may have a slight chance of delaying a game, but an absentee host has a 100% chance of delaying it. I took action in the last game only because lots of people were complaining and the game was just sitting there. It is nothing like Atkins saying he might be slightly less active because of his school situation. Inactive players are replaced all the time, and WW has an extensive list of replacements available, so there were plenty of other options. Also, AtkinsSJ is our host's brother, and lives in the same house, so there is no chance that he could disappear without our host knowing about it immediately and the replacement happening immediately after that. I have known for years that the AtkinsSJ and WackieWatty are brothers, so there is no chance at all for the situation you describe to exist.

It might also be a person who's scared of him, because nobody knows what ??? means. I think it might be someone who's paranoid in real life. So, who is it...It might be happystickman, he didn't sign up for the last game. But I'm holding my vote.
And it is the second questionable thing you have said during the same day. As others have pointed out before me, you said the Atkins was killed because of his ??? status, even though there is only one type of player who had any possibility of knowing that, which would be a cop. The only kind of cop that could have acted on the situation though, is a mafia cop. At that point, the other mafia would also know, but no townies would know that.

I see only two possibilities here:
You are a mafia who isn't very good at covering your tracks trying to lynch one of the town's best assets.
You are a very misguided townie who doesn't have a very clear understanding of the way the game is played.Of the two, I believe the first is the more likely scenario, so I am going to VOTE: ElMikkino, since I haven't seen anyone even close to suspicious yet, except for him.

[Coolguy]

I agree- The last time somebody went after Hammered for nonsensible reasons at the game's beginning, they were a Mafia. (Of course, everybody was a Mafia that game) :p So, yeah, VOTE: Elmikkino

[Mr.Onion]

Wow. Talk about messing up. :p I agree with Hammered: Vote: ElMikkino!

[WackieWatty]

Yes, I kind-of forgot to mention that AtkinsSJ DOES get a last gasp! Lucky boy...

[Mossysox]

I see only two possibilities here:
You are a mafia who isn't very good at covering your tracks trying to lynch one of the town's best assets.
You are a very misguided townie who doesn't have a very clear understanding of the way the game is played.Of the two, I believe the first is the more likely scenario, so I am going to VOTE: ElMikkino, since I haven't seen anyone even close to suspicious yet, except for him.
Well, I suppose he could be a very misguided Townie, but I doubt it. VOTE: ElMikkino.

[happystickman]

Never vote Hammered when she has long posts. :) Vote:ElMinkinno

[ElMikkino]

*slaps head* I am not very good at mafia. It seems that they're is no other alternative than saying that I'm innocent! This is my first mafia game, and I am not that good! The second answer to Hammered's explanations is right! And, come on! Who would give a person who has this as their first game, A MAFIA ROLE? It doesn't make sense! Mafia is for more adept playerys! One more thing: Unvote.

[CheeseLord]

I was mafia my first game, and I'm not the only one, so that's not much of an excuse. I will Vote: ElMikkino. However, isn't there a rule about the only cop being mafia? That would mean that one of the ???s would also have to have some investigation power, probably from an inventor or similar role.

[ElMikkino]

Ok, that didn't work, so, I think I'll have to reveal my role (in invisible text, in case you don't want spoilers).

My role is a doctor! A townie! If you don't believe me, believe my grave, cause you are digging it.

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

Then who did you protect :p?

[WackieWatty]

Update!

Votes:
ElMikkino - 6 (Hammered, Coolguy, Mr.Onion, Mossysox, happystickman, Cheeselord)... It's a lynch!

The townsfolk gathered, meaning to drive poor ElMikkino from the town. They sent him down to the sewers to "fix a dodgy pipe", and sealed him away.
ElMikkino was a Townie Doctor!

During all this commotion, nobody noticed the ZOMBIE appear behind the group, leaving soon after. After ElMikkino was safely sealed away, they turned, only to find Coolguy was dead!
Coolguy was the Mafia Godfather!

It is NIGHT 2 please send me PMs, everyone, including the Newly appointed Godfather. No time limit as of yet, but I'm keeping my eye out for lurking...

EDIT: Player list!

AtkinsSJ; (Deadified, Night 1) - ???
Cheeselord;
Coolguy; (Assimilated (sp?) Day 2) - Mafia Godfather
ElMikkino; (Blocked up, Day 2) - Townie Doc
Hammered;
happystickman;
julianmh102;
Mossysox;
Mr.Onion;
PlasmaCannonsRule!;
Roland;
Wesley

[Coolguy]

Curses, foiled again! :p I'd like to know why I was randomly modkilled, though.

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

Why is there a ! beside my name?

[happystickman]

Coolguy dieying was wierd, but very good! 1 down and we didnt even do it! YAY!

[ElMikkino]

Well, this is my last gasp! Told ya I was a doctor! I wish that it was 7 votes and not 6:(! Well, happy trails!

PCR: I protected Roland on the first night. I just picked a random person.

My opinion on Coolguy: One of the ??? is an insane guy. We have to kill him before he slaughters us all! But for now, YAY THE INSANE GUY *claps*!

Well, these are my last words since the next mafia game, so, I hope the townie's win, and that I do better in the next game! See ya! *wanders off into the sunset*

[WackieWatty]

Hammered felt dizzy as she went home. It was as if.... something had happened to her..... but she didn't know what.... No sooner had she opened the front door, than she fell down, dead.

That's right people, Hammered is dead!
Role: ???... - It's a SEKRIT!

It is Day 3! Get lynching... There are 8 players alive, so its 5 votes to lynch.

Hammered gets a last gasp, of course. Now, we just need to hope that Roland returns soon.

Player List:

AtkinsSJ; (Deadified, Night 1) - ???
Cheeselord;
Coolguy; (Assimilated (sp?) Day 2) - Mafia Godfather
ElMikkino; (Blocked up, Day 2) - Townie Doc
Hammered; (Something-ified, Night 2) - ???
happystickman;
julianmh102;
Mossysox;
Mr.Onion;
PlasmaCannonsRule!;
Roland;
Wesley

[CheeseLord]

I would guess that CG wasn't modkilled, so that would most likely imply a player, rather than the host, being the ZOMBIE with vigilante/SK powers. However, if that were the case, why would CG have died at the end of the day, rather than during the night?

[Roland]

I'M BACK! :D

To be honest, the lynching of ElMikkino was outright stupid. Didn't Vakkarrus do the exact same thing, in the exact same situation in Game #14? It was his first game (same as ElMikkino), he voted Hammered for no good or sufficient reason (same as ElMikkino), except in the first game Hammered didn't vote him, but in this game, she did, and, no surprise, he got lynched. Meh. She's proven a townie now. Still, go think about what you've done. :p

BLATANT EDIT: By the way, could Hammered and Atkins please reveal their roles?

[Julian]

Just on a hunch here, but I think that we should VOTE: Mr. Onion until he reveals his reason for jumping on the bandwagon so quickly. If he makes a good argument, I'll revoke my vote but until then... I'm only trying to point out a possible Mafia.

[happystickman]

Why Do the best Mafia players keep dying? Someone HAS to have a vigilante power.

[Mossysox]

Yes, thank you, Roland, I feel sick about this as it is. Though I do think ElMikkino could have role-claimed a little sooner, and given people the chance to Unvote.
At least our day-killer - whoever, or whatever, they are - hit a mafia for us.

I don't see why that has to be the zombie, though.

[CheeseLord]

During all this commotion, nobody noticed the ZOMBIE appear behind the group, leaving soon after. After ElMikkino was safely sealed away, they turned, only to find Coolguy was dead!
That should explain it.

[Mossysox]

That should explain it.
Oh yes, so it does.
Sorry about that, people - long day.:oops:

[Roland]

*Paranoia sets in*

To be honest, that could be a red herring. He didn't directly say that the ZOMBIE killed him, now did he? I can imagine WW saying, at the end of the game or something, "Well, I didn't say that the ZOMBIE killed CG, now did I?" It's the sort of thing I can imagine him saying. Eh. I suppose I shall succumb to the theory of Occam's Razor, and go with the thought that the ZOMBIE killed CG.

[Mr.Onion]

Just on a hunch here, but I think that we should VOTE: Mr. Onion until he reveals his reason for jumping on the bandwagon so quickly. If he makes a good argument, I'll revoke my vote but until then... I'm only trying to point out a possible Mafia.
I'm a mason. That a good enough reason for you? :p

[Hammered]

Well, I don't have much to say, since, as a ???, I can't reveal my role, but I would like to apologize for killing our doctor, especially since he would have been able to save me from the mafia last night. :p In my own defense, I will point out that I did offer two possible explanations for ElMikkino's behavior and the other one was the correct one. I just tend to get paranoid when I am falsely accused.

So, it's time for me to shuffle off of this mortal coil, but I offer you a final observation:

The mason defense would imply that Mr.Onion was in communication with someone who posted before him on that bandwagon. There were only two people on that bandwagon before he joined it, Coolguy and me. You all know what the credibility of Coolguy is at this point and I can assure you that Mr.Onion was not in communication with me, so if communication with someone was going on, I don't believe it was of a mason nature. There is, after all, another group of people in the game who can communicate freely with one another. I won't get a chance to rebut another of his arguments, if he posts one, so I want to remind you which of us was killed by the mafia and which of us is lurking, exactly like he did in the last game, when he was a mafia.

You could insist on confirmation of his mason status from his two fellow masons, but with one of the mafia dead, he won't be able to produce two supporters, or you could just go ahead and do what I would be doing if the mafia hadn't killed me last night, and that is ...

VOTE: Mr.Onion

[Mossysox]

The mason defense would imply that Mr.Onion was in communication with someone who posted before him on that bandwagon.



So what are we saying? That if Mr Onion's a mason, he can't think for himself?

Is that like a rule, or something?
I'm not voting just yet; I want to think about this.

[Roland]

Okay, I'm posting this purely to annoy Hammered, Atkins and WW. What Hammered's saying, from a logical point of view, is absolute nonsense. She is purely doing that in the hopes that a gullible townie, that doesn't ACTUALLY READ long posts, will fall for it. So, she may as well have a go, because she's dead. But I can see through it. Okay, what I'm going to prove to you now is that the ???'s (Hammered and Atkins, so far) WEREN'T townies...


1) Wackiewatty deliberately didn't reveal what alliance Atkins and Hammered were on. I don't think that it's a mistake. Come on, he did it twice!

2) Hammered was acting sort of suspiciously. Okay, this isn't huge, but I still can't get it out of my mind. Hammered is acting very similarly to when she did in Game #20, and I already explained why the voting of ElMikkino was a bit awry. Also, she's going after Mr.Onion for a totally nonsense reason, which is unlike Hammered.

3) Hammered and Atkins haven't revealed their roles. If they really were townie power roles, then what would they have to lose? I even asked them to. And Hammered used the trick, "I can't reveal my role" in her last gasp, which further proves it.

4) Coolguy got killed. A town vigilante wouldn't kill somebody like Coolguy, when he hasn't done anything remotely suspicious. Sure, he WAS a mafia, but I can't really see anything he did suspiciously. Certainly not enough evidence for a TOWN vigilante kill. Especially since Coolguy is a valuable town asset (when he's on the TOWN side... Good we got rid of him!). Of course, I write all this and realise that there isn't even anything that can kill apart from the mafia. I don't think that it was a coincidence that the Godfather died. Atkins' role must've had a backfiring power of some sort (e.g. Delayed PGO, Vengeful Townie (though he's not a townie)).

5) It works mathematically. Okay, I don't know why I didn't notice this, since it's obvious, yet it's a HUGE clue! It only says townie six times. If there really was only 9 townies and 3 mafia, then it would say townie nine times. Simple. Remember: The roles on the list at the start overlap.

6) The game's still balanced. Don't say, "ONOS! It's impossible for the town to win, since there's only six townies against three mafia and gosh knows what interfering!" Think about it: Remember what Jamul did in Brilliant Idea Mafia? He said your anomaly team wins (sort of same situation here... More than one mafia group) by getting 50% of the population. WW could have easily done the same thing this game... It'd still be balanced!

...So, what does that conclude? That the ??? roles aren't townies or mafia! They could be another mafia group, or a cult that doesn't get a Godfather which sends in a kill each night.

Thus, Mr.Onion is doubly innocent! I know he's innocent! I am one his mason buddies! Lay off of him already!

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

Thus, Mr.Onion is doubly innocent! I know he's innocent! I am one his mason buddies! Lay off of him already!

Me to!

[Julian]

Sorry, Roland, but I don't believe you. I have this feeling that Hammered's town, and also, her role probably says that she can't ever role claim; otherwise WW would have said it.

[CheeseLord]

Sorry, Roland, but I don't believe you. I have this feeling that Hammered's town, and also, her role probably says that she can't ever role claim; otherwise WW would have said it.
Not necessarily. It may be written in the original role PM. And Roland, the six townies and three mafia may or may not include the cop, doctor, or ZOMBIE, who I think either is an SK or a very lucky vigilante.

[Roland]

Hmmm. I do find Julian suspicious. And he's only posted three times! :o

I, having no suspicions at all, will not vote yet, so that people can be more suspicious. VOTE: No Lynch

"...so that people can be more suspicious"? Hmmm.

Just on a hunch here, but I think that we should VOTE: Mr. Onion until he reveals his reason for jumping on the bandwagon so quickly. If he makes a good argument, I'll revoke my vote but until then... I'm only trying to point out a possible Mafia.

Here we have him voting Mr.Onion for a very slim reason. Why not go after Hammered, who started the bandwagon?

Well, I don't have much to say, since, as a ???, I can't reveal my role, but I would like to apologize for killing our doctor, especially since he would have been able to save me from the mafia last night. :p In my own defense, I will point out that I did offer two possible explanations for ElMikkino's behavior and the other one was the correct one. I just tend to get paranoid when I am falsely accused.

So, it's time for me to shuffle off of this mortal coil, but I offer you a final observation:

The mason defense would imply that Mr.Onion was in communication with someone who posted before him on that bandwagon. There were only two people on that bandwagon before he joined it, Coolguy and me. You all know what the credibility of Coolguy is at this point and I can assure you that Mr.Onion was not in communication with me, so if communication with someone was going on, I don't believe it was of a mason nature. There is, after all, another group of people in the game who can communicate freely with one another. I won't get a chance to rebut another of his arguments, if he posts one, so I want to remind you which of us was killed by the mafia and which of us is lurking, exactly like he did in the last game, when he was a mafia.

You could insist on confirmation of his mason status from his two fellow masons, but with one of the mafia dead, he won't be able to produce two supporters, or you could just go ahead and do what I would be doing if the mafia hadn't killed me last night, and that is ...

VOTE: Mr.Onion

Then notice how Julian's perhaps-to-be buddy, Hammered, voted the Mr.Onion AGAIN, for an even less-sensical reason. Voting patterns, anyone? Is it any coincidence that they both non-sensically voted the SAME PERSON who is now a proven townie?

Sorry, Roland, but I don't believe you. I have this feeling that Hammered's town, and also, her role probably says that she can't ever role claim; otherwise WW would have said it.

And, now, he still feels the need to defend Hammered.

What I'm trying to say is that there's a big fat chance that Julian is the last person in this evil ??? group! VOTE:Julian ftw!

[Julian]

Fine. Kill me. I won't stop you. In fact, I'll even VOTE: Julian Just to prove that I'm town. A perfectly normal townie. If you insist on killing me, then you are probably mafia.

[Roland]

Julian, you aren't even near being lynched yet. :p And in Brilliant Idea Mafia, you voted yourself, and you were mafia (as was everyone else, 'course). :p And I'm not TOTALLY sure, but I reckon you're our best bet.

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

Julian, being suspicious for rediculous reasons, deserves another Vote: Julian.

[happystickman]

Ill Vote:Julian, unless new evidence is exposed. Wait,PCR said Me too!, when Mr.O said he was a mason, but Roland already said HE was Mr.O mason. Either we got a mason Trio, (Unlikey) or we got a liar. No vote yet however.

[Roland]

Ill Vote:Julian, unless new evidence is exposed. Wait,PCR said Me too!, when Mr.O said he was a mason, but Roland already said HE was Mr.O mason. Either we got a mason Trio, (Unlikey) or we got a liar. No vote yet however.

Look at the first post! There is a trio of three masons! Also, if we were lying the real masons would have said something (not relating to what you said- Just wanted to point that out). And "No vote yet however"? Didn't you already vote?

Julian, being suspicious for rediculous reasons, deserves another Vote: Julian.

And I don't understand this post. Do you mean he was suspicious of OTHER people for ridiculous reasons?

All in all, there's a good chance Julian's a ??? (My evidence wouldn't make sense if he were just a plain mafia), but I'd be happy to unvote. Not yet, though.

[WackieWatty]

Vote Update:

Julian's suicidal attempt does not count and, since he did not unlynch Onion, his vote remains..

Mr.Onion - (1 - Julian)
Julian - (3 - Roland; PlasmaCannonsRule; happystickman)

Remember, it's ......5 to lynch (I think)

[Mossysox]

What, he didn't Unvote, when Mr Onion's been proved Townie? That's ridiculous! That's the most blatant piece of mafia behaviour I've seen all game. VOTE: Julian.

[Mr.Onion]

*really hopes Roland is right about this*

Vote: Julian.

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

And I don't understand this post. Do you mean he was suspicious of OTHER people for ridiculous reasons?

Yes, that's what I meant.

[Julian]

Well, last gasp time. VOTE: ROLAND! If he's mafia, VOTE: Mr. O!

[WackieWatty]

Well, looks like it's a lynch!

With ElMikkino stuck in the sewers, they decided to move Julian somewhere different... Inside a tree!

As they forced Julian into the tree, they rejoiced, because nobody had seen the dreaded ZOMBIE all day!

However, Julian was a Townie!
He gets a last gasp...
It is Night...3! Send in your PMs!

Player list!

AtkinsSJ; (Deadified, Night 1) - ???
Cheeselord;
Coolguy; (Assimilated (sp?) Day 2) - Mafia Godfather
ElMikkino; (Blocked up, Day 2) - Townie Doc
Hammered; (Something-ified, Night 2) - ???
happystickman;
Julian; (Barked up (the wrong tree) Day 3) - Townie
Mossysox;
Mr.Onion;
PlasmaCannonsRule!;
Roland;
Wesley

[WackieWatty]

The town woke up to the sun shining and the birds tweeting away. Things appeared to be looking up for them, with no sign of the ZOMBIE!

Farmer Bob, the strangely not-playing member of the town, got on his new Combine 'Arvester and set off at a terrific speed of 2 MPH...
Soon though, his path was blocked by a fallen tree. It was the tree that Julian was in! With the help of his 'Arvester, the Farmer managed to move the tree off the road, only to find...
PCR was dead!
Role - He was a Townie Mason!

However, the town didn't seem any emptier. Hmm.....
It is Day 4

Player list!

AtkinsSJ; (Deadified, Night 1) - ???
Cheeselord;
Coolguy; (Assimilated (sp?) Day 2) - Mafia Godfather
ElMikkino; (Blocked up, Day 2) - Townie Doc
Hammered;
happystickman;
Julian; (Barked up (the wrong tree) Day 3) - Townie
Mossysox;
Mr.Onion;
PlasmaCannonsRule; (Squishified, Night 3) - Townie Mason
Roland;
Wesley

There are 7 players alive, so it's 4 to lynch!

[CheeseLord]

Hammered has been brought back to life. So now we have two ???s left, two mafia left, and three townies left. One of the townies is a cop, which leaves the matter of the ZOMBIE, who is most likely a townie vigilante. That would leave one townie left to be a mason, which would mean we have a mafia or ??? mason. I think the ???s are probably a third side, so either way, one of the masons is against us. Fortunately for us, they have all role-claimed, making our job easier.

[Mr.Onion]

And now it's going to be a coin flip whether it's me or Roland who get lynched. :p

Since the third mason is dead, and I'm absolutly sure that I'm town, Vote: Roland!

[CheeseLord]

Having only seen Roland playing as a townie once or twice before, I know his mafia style much better than his town style. This is it. Vote: Roland.

[Mossysox]

It all depends on what you think about the Zombie, though, doesn't it? Can somebody explain: why are we assuming it's a town role, and not a '???' ?

We've already made two mistakes, I don't want to be rushed into making a third. I'm going to wait to hear what Roland has to say for himself before voting.

[CheeseLord]

I find it unlikely that someone would be given both a ??? role and a ZOMBIE role, but I suppose it is possible. If the ???s are a third side, then the would probably have at least one person with a special power, although Hammered's ability to come back to life would qualify. I'm keeping my vote, however, because I still find Roland the most suspicious.

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

WAIT!!!!! DON'T VOTE ROLAND OR MO!!!!! THEY ARE MY MASON BUDDIES!!!!! Aso, kill Hammered or Happystickman, since they are the most suspicious. Also, I find CheeseLord semi-suspicious.

[Mr.Onion]

One of the masons is evil, and I am absolutely sure it isn't me, so it must be Roland.

[Roland]

Mr.Onion, how do you come to that conclusion? Don't you realise that WW knows how game-breaking they are, since he was actually on the receiving end of it in Christmas Mafia (Game #5)?

To be honest, my view about the ???'s stand. They aren't townies or mafia. Though I'm not sure whether we have to beat them to succeed.

To be honest, either I'm totally reading Hammered's posts wrong, or they don't make much sense at all. All they are is long. Especially with the voting of Mr.O (he's innocent, I tells ya!).

In essence, why are you voting me? All I did was lead was lead the town into lynching Julian (I mean, who else was suspicious, come on). Remind you of anyone? *Cough* Hammered *Cough*

[Mr.Onion]

Here is my logic:

1. There are 6 roles on the role list "Townie." As we know, some of the roles overlap.
2. The Cop and Doctor take up two of the "Townie" spots.
3. The 3 masons take up 3 more, leaving one left.
4. Unfortunatly, we have had 2 people confirmed as normal townies.
5. Therefore, one of the masons has to be evil.
6. PROFIT!!!

[Roland]

Wait a second, I think I've realised something... Hammered is the ZOMBIE! I think she's the Godfather for the ??? group, but I don't know. But anyway, notice how there was NO ZOMBIE in the narrations when Hammered was dead? And then notice how she came back to life? Hammered is the ZOMBIE! She must be evil, because WW got attacked by one (you know, first post?). VOTE: Hammered!

[CheeseLord]

He was not attacked by a zombie. He was one.

[happystickman]

Thats what he WANTs you to think. No really, he wants you to thinks HES the Zombie so the ZOMBIE will have a easier time. The ZOMBIE is a probolby a 3d party member thats needs to kill everyone else to win. Hammereds coming back to life, and everything puts her in the hotseat, but im not voting on her just yet.

[Roland]

He was not attacked by a zombie. He was one.

Oh, right, yeah. Still, my vote stands.

[Roland]

Sorry for the double post, but some silly person might find me suspicious for editing my post an hour later, so here's what I've got to say...

Firstly, Mr.Onion, your math is WRONG. Your maths relies on the people dying and been proven townie to just be normal townies. They weren't. ElMikkino was a doctor and PCR was a Mason, with me and you. Hmmm... I'll show you what I mean...

There are 6 townies. Three have died. One was a doctor, one was a mason, and one was a normal townie. So, the other 3 could consist of one cop and two masons.

Secondly, Unvote and VOTE: Mr.Onion! I don't know if we need to kill the ???'s to win. If we don't, then lynching Hammered would be the effect of a No Lynch (and can't she come back to life anyway?). Mr.Onion's going after me with a mathematical fallacy! Of course, there still CAN be an evil mason (and plus, he might not even BE a mason- If someone owns up to be the mason, then it doesn't necessarily prove Mr.Onion a fake).

P.S: I know this is random, but I think CheeseLord is the last ???. This doesn't mean anything, though.

[Hammered]

Alright, I know that some of you don't know whether you can trust me or not, because of the whole ??? thing, and I wish I could tell you my role, but I can't. It's WW's rule and seeing as how he has revealed every detail of the roles of the people who have left us, except for me and the other ???, you could at least consider the possibility that I might be actually telling the truth about that. If you want to know whether we ??? are mafia, please try to take into account that the mafia killed two of us so far. You may or may not be able to win if I am alive and I am not even going to try to convince you of that at this point. We can talk about that later, but the fact is that you already know for sure that you can't win if the mafia are alive. It appears that this dispute between Mr.O and Roland has given us a golden opportunity.

The number of living mafia among the population at large is 2/7. If you are a townie, you know that you are not one of the mafia and that I am not either. That leaves five people for you to pick from as mafia. You have a raw chance of 40% to kill a mafia, if you just choose someone at random. But, we can improve those odds. Here we have Mr.Onion and Roland. One of them must be mafia. If we, (you, the townies or me, the ???) go after one of them, we have a 50% chance of getting a mafia. If we observe the behavior of both players, we can improve the odds even more, if we see that one of them does indeed seem more suspicious than the other. Let's take a look at the behavior of Mr.Onion and Roland and see what we can decide:
Mr.O came after Roland as soon as he could. He was sure there was an evil mason. It was as if he knew there was one.
Roland didn't want to believe there was an evil mason. He was certain that there couldn't be one, because the host himself had been bitten by that very ploy, about a year ago.Only one of these guys even considered the possibility of an evil mason, and that's good enough for me. I believe that the one who believes there is an evil mason does so because he is an evil mason. Therefore it's time for me to do what I promised you all in my last gasp, and VOTE: Mr.Onion.

We only have room for one more mistake. Let's at least try to avoid making in by increasing the odds and hopefully getting rid of the evil mason. It's an opportunity we can't afford to pass up.

[Wesley]

I think all this makes sense... Vote:Mr.Onion

[Mossysox]

Yes, that does seem reasonable. VOTE: Mr Onion.

[WackieWatty]

It's a lynch!

Mr.Onion was...well....he was..... chucked out of the town!
Role: Mr.Onion was... a Townie Mason!
As they all started to travel back to their houses, Onion-less, they spotted the dreaded ZOMBIE! They all ran for their lives, all except from CheeseLord!

Nobody quite knows what happened to CheeseLord, and he was never heard from again...
Role: CheeseLord was a Townie Cop!

Player list!

AtkinsSJ; (Deadified, Night 1) - ???
Cheeselord; (Mysteriously Disappeared, Day 4) - Townie Cop
Coolguy; (Assimilated (sp?) Day 2) - Mafia Godfather
ElMikkino; (Blocked up, Day 2) - Townie Doc
Hammered;
happystickman;
Julian; (Barked up (the wrong tree) Day 3) - Townie
Mossysox;
Mr.Onion; (Chuckified, Day 4) - Townie Mason
PlasmaCannonsRule; (Squishified, Night 3) - Townie Mason
Roland;
Wesley

It is Night 4, I believe. Send in PMs!

[Mr.Onion]

I told you so! :p Roland, you forgot to take into account two people have died and been confirmed as normal townies. Vote: Roland!

[WackieWatty]

Whilst looking for the body of his buddy, AtkinsSJ, which has mysteriously disppeared, Wesley accidently ended up in a crypt. By the time he realised he should have turned left at the last gravestone, the crypt had been sealed, blocking him in.

Wesley is now TRAPPED!
Role: Welsey was a ??? - It's a SEKRIT!

Player list!

AtkinsSJ; (Deadified, Night 1) - ???
Cheeselord; (Mysteriously Disappeared, Day 4) - Townie Cop
Coolguy; (Assimilated (sp?) Day 2) - Mafia Godfather
ElMikkino; (Blocked up, Day 2) - Townie Doc
Hammered;
happystickman;
Julian; (Barked up (the wrong tree) Day 3) - Townie
Mossysox;
Mr.Onion; (Chuckified, Day 4) - Townie Mason
PlasmaCannonsRule; (Squishified, Night 3) - Townie Mason
Roland;
Wesley (Trapified, Night 4) - ???

With only 4 players left, compromising of 50% mafia, the MAFIA WIN!
Also, due to her amazing livingness, Hammered and the other ???s win!

Player list!

AtkinsSJ; - SKS
Cheeselord; - Townie Cop
Coolguy; - Mafia Godfather
ElMikkino; - Townie Doc
Hammered; - SKS
happystickman; - Townie
Julian; - Townie
Mossysox; - Mafia!!!
Mr.Onion; - Townie Mason
PlasmaCannonsRule; - Townie Mason
Roland; - Mafia Mason!!!
Wesley - SKS
WackieWatty - ZOMBIE

I will let the SKSs explain their roles...
Hoped you all enjoyed the game!

[Mr.Onion]

Again I will say it, but bigger, and with more emphasis:


I TOLD YOU SO! :p

Also, SKS? :shock:

[drgamer]

*cough*
I found it kinda obvious that Mossysox was mafia...
Shame I wasn't playing then.

[Hammered]

Well, since I have permission from our imperious leader to reveal my role now,
I will leave you guessing!





Just kidding! I am a sweet kindly little old lady, as you all know. I enjoy playing games with my fellow Hamumians. If I have to kill one off now and again, what's a little thing like that among friends? You know that evil ZOMBIE that was running around killing people? That wasn't me. That was our host, just as I said earlier. Everyone knows that it is the serial killer who sends in the kill orders and the host who kills them. Coolguy once said to me that I was going to be very surprised at the end of this game. I wonder if I am nearly as surprised as he will be when he finds out that I am the one who killed him? At least I was finally able to get even with that evil Cheeselord for his behavior involving me in a certain previous mafia game.

Seriously, at the start of the game, we could have gone either way, and won with either team. My thought was to go after mafia with the public voting and go townies with my SK abilities. Then later, when the population of one side got low enough, we could decide who to help. You all know how well that worked out for me on day 1. I got both people backwards, but at least we still got one of each.

I switched to going after exclusively townies yesterday when I saw a chance to play for the win. It was quite obvious that Roland was evil, but I knew that if I got my fellow ??? to vote with me that the Mafia wouldn't be able to resist the chance to get rid of a townie and they would go along. Then I could knock out another townie and the night mafia kill would win the game for the mafia and for us. There was a small risk to me that I would be re-killed, which meant I would lose, since I was a survivor too, but I gambled that they would be afraid I might revive and go after someone else to insure their win. Looks like it paid off, although I do hate being evil. Playing into the mafia's hands was just safer for me personally, since I was pretty sure they would kill me if there was only one mafia left, but they wouldn't touch me if they saw a chance to win.

[AtkinsSJ]

Hammered was pretty unlucky by getting Coolguy - she was invulnerable to mafia kills until she killed one.

Wesley and I were masons with Hammered, a third side if you like. Only Hammered had the ability to kill though, and only on even days. Which is pretty confusing, but it just about worked. Pity I died on night one - probably as I pointed-out a No Lynch is more advantageous to the mafia. Meh.

Oh, and whoo! We won! :D

[Coolguy]

Victory!!! :p Now, on to Spamumufia!

[Wesley]

We won, only thanks to Hammered's brilliant strategy. I found it weird letting the mafia win on purpose, but it payed off!

[Mossysox]

*cough*
I found it kinda obvious that Mossysox was mafia...
Shame I wasn't playing then.

No, drgamer: I think I'm fairly happy that you weren't! :p

Glad you decided to fully embrace the Dark Side, Hammered! Much appreciated... :D

[drgamer]

Well of course YOU wouldn't have wanted me to play.
Of course, knowing my luck I would have been either on the mafia side (AGAIN)
or on Hammered's team.
So... the same thing probably would have happened *whistles*

[Roland]

Yay! We won! Funnily enough, in a PM I sent to Mossysox, I suggested that the ZOMBIE was in fact the host, and the reason that the ZOMBIE was killing people is because he's the host! You have to kill people as ordered, don't you?

Also, I was right! Yay! The ???'s were third party! I was wondering why Hammered chose Mr.Onion instead of me to vote for. Firstly, I was acting suspiciously all game, and secondly, the reason Hammered voted Mr.Onion was because he said there was an evil mason, and that I said there wasn't. I think the one denying it is just as suspicious as the person supporting it (yes, I know Hammered was trying to do that). Anywho, we won! Yay!

[WackieWatty]

Just in case any of you are still slightly confused about the Role list I posted at the start of the game, I have listed all the information as to who-is-who below!

Townie; - Mr.Onion
Townie; - CheeseLord
Townie; - Julian
Townie; - PlasmaCannonsRule
Townie; - ElMikkino
Townie; - happystickman
Mason; - Mr.Onion
Mason; - Roland
Mason; - PlasmaCannonsRule
Mafia; - Roland
Mafia; - Mossysox
Mafia; - Coolguy
Godfather; - Coolguy
Cop; - CheeseLord
Doctor; - ElMikkino
???; - AtkinsSJ
???; - Wesley
???; - Hammered
ZOMBIE - WackieWatty