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Hammered
10-07-2007, 07:35 PM
Spamumu's eyes widened in alarm. Where had all these Spammers come from? He thought he had cleared up this problem years ago. There was nothing for it but to head out across his fabulous Net of Inter once again, and try to find the evildoers. There were so many of them though. Maybe some of the good citizens of the Net of Inter will be able to help him out.

It is night. I am in the process of sending out roles. If you have a night action, you may send it in as soon as you get your role. If you have a role that allows you to talk to others, I suggest you not do so until I post here again to report that all such roles have been sent, or you could cause much confusion and spin your wheels talking to people who don't know their roles yet. I will be sending out the roles for those who can talk to one another first, so hopefully it won't be too long.

Players

AtkinsSJ
blackmyth
chaucer

Cheeselord
Christian
Connor S.

Coolguy
diginova

drgamer

ducklegion
ElMikkino

Hammer Sideways
happystickman

Julian
Justin

Maiden Japan 007

Mossysox

Mr.Onion
munkee

PlasmaCannonsRule

regeneratorizer
Ryuinfinity

Roland
varkarrus

WackieWatty
Wesley

Hammered
10-08-2007, 02:27 AM
All the PMs have now been sent, but it is night, so you can't post. Let's take advantage of this opportunity, to set a few ground rules:
For the purposes of this game, I will be your anonymous admin. I can't play the part of Spamumu, because he is very busy playing the game. Oops! I revealed one of the roles, but let's talk about that:
In addition to role details, you all have a role name. This role name might give people clues as to your identity and/or abilities, so you can't reveal it. Your role name and description will be revealed when you leave the game.
We are not trying to kill or lynch people here. That would be far too violent. What will actually happen it that the Spammer Team will be trying to bore the regular players to death with their Spam, while the regular players will be petitioning the friendly admin to get people banned.
Finally, I want to have some spam in the topic for atmosphere, but I don't want a ton of it and I don't want the real spammer team members to give themselves away, so I will be choosing random players to be guest spammers for every day period. The number of players selected will be equal to the number of people left on the Spamming Team. They may or may not be actual members of the Spamming team. Each of them must post 1-3 Spammy posts during the day or the Admin will ban them for not obeying the rules. It would be unwise to vote these people out just because they are spamming. If you are selected as a guest spammer, you will receive the guidelines in your notice, so be sure to follow the rules. If you were not selected, please don't spam in the topic. Guest spammers may post as many regular posts as they like.If you didn't get a role PM, please make sure to let me know right away.

Hammered
10-09-2007, 07:43 AM
A group of spammers gathered together and quickly penned a pile of over 6,000 pointless posts. One of them picked the pile up and ran over to where varkarrus was hanging out. He ran in quick circles around varkarrus, dropping the posts everywhere as the stack surrounding poor varkarrus got deeper and deeper. Still, the spammer ran over the tops of the swiftly growing pile, dropping more posts as he went until varkarrus was completely obscured from sight. As the spammer dropped the last post and jumped down from the senseless stack of silliness, he slipped and it all collapsed in on poor varkarrus. What an ironic, albeit well-deserved, ending for Kris, the Loony Tick, a Jester whose only goal in life was to get himself banned. As an unaffiliated third party jester, varkarrus' team of one loses, but our game continues.



You are Kris, the Loony Tick. You have several aliases, such as 73.313. I :heart: 3.14159, and Tree Shaded Mink. You have been banned from the net many times before, but you have sneaked back in to see if you can manage to get banned again.

You win if you can get yourself banned. If you survive or die by any other method, you lose. If you survive or die by any other method, you lose. If you reveal your role or hint in any way that your goal is to get lynched, you will be removed from the game and you will lose.

Varkarrus gets a last gasp, as long as he posts it during the current day.

The game is afoot. It is Day #1. Twenty-five players remain alive, so it takes thirteen votes to ban. Please, stop by post #2 and check out the rules, if you haven't already done so.

Players

AtkinsSJ
blackmyth
chaucer

Cheeselord
Christian
Connor S.

Coolguy
diginova

drgamer

ducklegion
ElMikkino

Hammer Sideways
happystickman

Julian
Justin

Maiden Japan 007

Mossysox

Mr.Onion
munkee

PlasmaCannonsRule

regeneratorizer
Ryuinfinity

Roland
WackieWatty
WesleyOut of Game
varkarrus, a.k.a. Kris, the Loony Tick - neutral Jester - bored to death on Night #0

WackieWatty
10-09-2007, 08:25 AM
Yo yo yo!
Welcome to Chucky Cheese - the only place on any known planet where you can chuck cheese! Please enjoy your cheese-chucking experience...:D

Coolguy
10-09-2007, 08:42 AM
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM !!1!!11!

RHUBARBRHUBARBRHUBARBSPAMSPAM!1!!11!RHUBARBPIESPAM !!!!1!1111!

/atmosphericspam

Mossysox
10-09-2007, 09:54 AM
Thirteen votes to lynch|! ONOS!!! When there were 26 people playing!!!!! That's doubly unlucky! Possibly trebly! Aaaargh!!! Run for your lives, before Friday!!!!

regeneratorizer
10-09-2007, 10:45 AM
Vark was a rather odd choice. Meh, oh well.

CIRCUMFERENCE PIE!

Mossysox
10-09-2007, 11:45 AM
And what a horrible way to go, too. Still, that's one rogue spammer we don't have to worry about.

chaucer
10-09-2007, 11:58 AM
LOL. ROFLOL. I 4/\/\ 73h h4ck20R2!!!!!!!!!!!!11111!!!1!!!!!!!!223$4##4#$1#5 !34%$#53452 (h4ck20R2!!!!!!!!!!!!11111!!!1!!!!!!!!2@@@2@@33$4# #4#$1#5!34%$#53452)^@

WackieWatty
10-09-2007, 12:19 PM
Gee whizz - that's one big pie you've got there!
Still, it is daytime, and we should be voting, not discussing pie!

Justin
10-09-2007, 12:55 PM
*chucks cheese*

Julian
10-09-2007, 01:32 PM
Wow! A lot has happened while I was gone. I'm going to be a bit busy, so I might not talk much, even though I do want to. I'll also try to be cautous with my vote, so that we won't lynch townies.

chaucer
10-09-2007, 02:50 PM
LOL! I AM 73H 5934K I/\/ 73H 1337!!!!! UBERCOOLPIELOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!111111 !!!22222ENTEREXCLAMATIONPOINTATSYMBOLSHIFTTWONE!

:(:evil::confused::twisted:;):!::p:roll::shock::?: :D:???::arrow:8):o:idea::idea::idea::idea::idea::p :p:p:p:p:twisted::twisted::twisted::confused:;);): !::!::!::(:(

PIE!!!!

PlasmaCannonsRule
10-09-2007, 03:13 PM
I will edit me into me oblivion :period:

CheeseLord
10-09-2007, 03:18 PM
It will be a lot harder to determine the spammers with all of this excess spam. However, if you pay close attention to details, it might pay off.

Roland
10-09-2007, 03:29 PM
Okay, I don't have much to say, since there isn't much to comment on, but I do have a pretty small and unfounded suspicion that I'd like to share with you...

Okay, 29 hours is a wild, random number. The sort of hours that doesn't follow a deadline. The sort of number which seems to me like the night ended when the last PM got sent to Hammered, maybe (she didn't specify a deadline either)? And since she's active an awful lot of the time, she'd be there to post pretty quickly, so if you were still active to PM, I reckon you'd still be online to see the post announcing day. The two people that replied relatively quickly were Coolguy and Wackiewatty. Coolguy is pretty punctual, making me think that he got in his PM earlier, and WW replied quicker, giving me a slight, unsubstantiated assumption that WW has a PM'ing role.

Of course, that means absolutely nothing, on the practical side of things. There's a good chance he isn't even a power role at all, and there's an even bigger chance that if he is, he isn't a mafia - Since the only PM'ing-to-the-host mafia is the Godfather (unless there are mafia power roles, which would raise those numbers significantly).

However, like Regen, I find it interesting that Vakarrus died. The only possibilities why the mafia would kill vakarrus would be...

1) Mafia Cop. This strikes me as a probable answer. Was it any coincidence that the person who died was a great threat to the town AND mafia? However, on the flip side of things, in a game as big as this, I don't think Vakarrus's individual win would finish the game. I think he'd just win and the game would go on. Did the mafia not realise this (or did they choose to play it safe?)? But I also find this likely, because in a game as big as this (I'll refer to that 'till the day I die!), it'd be fair to for the mafia to have at least SOME idea of what's going on, don't you think? (Oh, and this'd be one of those mafia power roles I talked about!)

2) An Inexperienced Godfather. This is kind of unlikely. However, there are a lot of new people, so one of them could have attained the Godfather position. Though, from all my games as a Mafia/Evil Clown/Anomaly, I know that there is a LOT of discussing about the kill each night. And since there are 6 or 7 mafia, then I doubt than none of them would talk it over about who would get spammerized for the night... Then again, the Godfather could have sent it in before they had a chance to talk about it (being inexperienced), or they might not have listened to his/her buddies. I suppose this is an interesting possibility.

3) The Mafia trying to look like they had a newbie as Godfather. This is rather out of the blue. I don't really know whether it'd be worth trying for the mafia, but it's a possibility.

...Well, that wasn't very useful, now was it? Well then, I'll be off to go destroy some spam in the Net of Inter! See ya!

Connor S.
10-09-2007, 04:21 PM
Yeay! My first mafia game! I've decided to play it safe, just because theres no substantial evedince right now, so I'll hold my vote.

Coolguy
10-09-2007, 04:49 PM
Alright, I finally have a chance to say a normal non-completely-spammy post! :p Not much important to say, though.

I can't think of any good reason the Mafia killed Varkarrus other than the GF-faking-idiocy thing (which is a pretty lame answer). Even if an MC inspected him, they wouldn't ever kill a Jester, since a Jester is TRYING to waste a town lynch (unless the Mafia thought for some stupid reason that he was on a 2nd spammer team, considering that CDL is a spammer). There's no way that a role like that could hurt the Mafia, so it's probably not an MC thing.

Roland, your assumption that GFs always discuss the kill with their minions is wrong. Godfathers in the past HAVE wasted their choices by not discussing with their minions. It happened in Superhero Mafia when Julian was the GF, and that was one of the main reasons the Mafia lost. However, that's probably unlikely, as this game's Mafia member ranks are probably ranked by skill (since Luck Mafia was ranked by skill)

And why do you think I have a PM, Roland? That seemed pretty out-of-the-blue. :p

Oh, and... erm...

Spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam Spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam Spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam.

/moreatmosphericspam

EDIT: Oh, yeah, almost none of you are in Invisible Mode- I suggest everybody goes and checks it (since for some reason my Invisible Mode was turned off during BM's game- It might've happened to some other people)

drgamer
10-09-2007, 05:26 PM
Onoes! The chipmunks are eating my BRAINS!!
The sky is ahsdofhaweoitphadf
and CHEESEBURGERS!
:???::D:D:confused::evil::evil::o:o

Coolguy
10-09-2007, 06:13 PM
N0t gr4n73d. YOU A5PL0DE1!!11!

I wish pink.

(Alright, that's all the atmospheric spam I have to do for the day- Hooray!)

PlasmaCannonsRule
10-09-2007, 06:29 PM
*commits smuiside*

ElMikkino
10-09-2007, 06:39 PM
I agree that the lynching of varkarrus was very weird. He didn't even sign up for the last 2 mafia games.

Coolguy
10-09-2007, 06:42 PM
I agree that the lynching of varkarrus was very weird. He didn't even sign up for the last 2 mafia games.

Elmikkino, I don't think you realize that this game isn't some sort of murder mystery thing. Almost no kills or lynches are based on grudges and such- They're purely strategic, unless the Godfather is a very bad player. :p

ElMikkino
10-09-2007, 06:46 PM
He didn't even sign up for the last 2 mafia games.

What I meant is that nobody had any info on him from those past 2 games, so they couldn't find out if he lurked or not, because he didn't play. It's still very weird.

Coolguy
10-09-2007, 06:49 PM
Elmikkino, I suggest you go to your Options and turn on invisible mode. Somebody might catch you PMing.

ElMikkino
10-09-2007, 06:52 PM
Why do you think I should?

Connor S.
10-09-2007, 07:14 PM
Because unless you have invisible mode on, other people can see if your pming, which might indicate a pming role, such as being mafia, or a cop, doctor... etc. or you might just be saying hi to someone, but people can lynch others on stranger evidence.

chaucer
10-09-2007, 07:26 PM
LOL!!!!
omlolROFLOL!!!!!!1 :(:p:D:arrow::twisted::!::?::idea::evil::confused: :!::p:?::D8):o:idea::shock::roll::(:twisted:;):??? ::arrow:

WOOOHOOOO! 73H 594/\/\ I5 73H 0\/3R!!!!!!!!1!!

Coolguy
10-09-2007, 07:27 PM
Y'know, Chaucer, you only have to atmospherically spam 3 times- THen you can make normal posts.

chaucer
10-09-2007, 07:30 PM
I know, I did only spam thrice. Now I'm done, which is quite nice. (rhyme not intended.)

drgamer
10-09-2007, 07:39 PM
Onoes! S0m3n35 74k1ng 7h3 47m05ph3r3! (with a giant vacuuuuuuuuuuuuuum!)

Spamspamspamspamspamspamspamspamspamspamspamspspam apsmpsmppsmpmmspmpasmasp
:arrow::arrow::arrow:8):arrow::D:!:

Hammer Sideways
10-09-2007, 08:10 PM
I 'ade a 'ew 'awing, 'ehold http://www.uploadgeek.com/?image=16838 oh 'nd... 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'am 'opy 'n 'aste 'oodness...

Hammer Sideways
10-09-2007, 08:14 PM
Oh 'nd, 'm using 'romancy *USES NECROMANCY!*! Oh 'nd, 'm 'so 'ing to 'jure 'erfs :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf: :yerf:

Coolguy
10-09-2007, 08:17 PM
Would 'Pretentious' have anything to do with your role, Hammer Sideways?

EDIT: Meh, y'know, I'm just going to VOTE: Hammer Sideways. Why? Because I happen to know that one of the spammers in Spamumu Tu is going to be the Pretentious Artist, and since HS just uploaded a drawing labelled ''Pretentious'', I'll take that as a roleclaim (which is illegal, by the way). :p

drgamer
10-09-2007, 08:20 PM
Uh.... I think Hammered accidentally gave out the way of finding out the mafia...

Either that or it is some fiendishly evil way of tricking us...
Edit: Coolguy Ninja edited me... And uh...
Vote: Hammer Sideways... (I was tempted too anyways)

Coolguy
10-09-2007, 08:24 PM
Roleclaiming's very illegal, though because of that- He's probably going to be modkilled.

CheeseLord
10-09-2007, 08:32 PM
This topic is becoming painful to read. I think Hammer Sideways may be overdoing the spam just a little, but I don't really think of it as evidence. However, the link seems to have been removed. I think that's the best evidence we have. I will Vote: Hammer Sideways.

drgamer
10-09-2007, 08:37 PM
How'd you know that it was a mafia role then Coolguy?

Egads! Due to a mistake that Hammered might have made...(edit: Gah for unfinished sentences... Meh... I don't mean coolguy used the possible mistake)
V.V
I'm assuming that Hammered's magical powers will make it so that any possible mistakes made by her have a minimum effect...

Hammer Sideways
10-09-2007, 08:48 PM
'ah 'iously, 'ow 'ould 'ou 'ow, 'sides, it 'as a 'ad 'awing 'o 'e 'am, 'nd 'etentious 'eans un'arranted 'aim to 'tinction, 'at 'etter 'itle 'or a 'tist 'at 'inks 'e's 'ood, 'ut 's 'ot, if 'ere 's a 'ole 'alled 'at, 'ats 'mething I 'id 'ot know...

'it: 'y the 'ay, I 'anged the 'awing to not 'ay 'entious 'tist 'more in'ase 'at 'ally 'is 'omeone's 'ole

drgamer
10-09-2007, 09:00 PM
Uh... could someone translate that? I can't read it >.<

Hammer Sideways
10-09-2007, 09:07 PM
'kay 'll 'anslate:
'ah 'iously, 'ow 'ould 'ou 'ow, 'sides, it 'as a 'ad 'awing 'o 'e 'am, 'nd 'etentious 'eans un'arranted 'aim to 'tinction, 'at 'etter 'itle 'or a 'tist 'at 'inks 'e's 'ood, 'ut 's 'ot, if 'ere 's a 'ole 'alled 'at, 'ats 'mething I 'id 'ot know...

'it: 'y the 'ay, I 'anged the 'awing to not 'ay 'entious 'tist 'more in'ase 'at 'ally 'is 'omeone's 'ole

'opefully 'at 'elps... if 'ot... 'en at 'east I 'ied...

Coolguy
10-09-2007, 09:12 PM
Obviously, how could you know, besides, it has had a drawing 'o 'e 'am, and pretentious means un'arranted 'aim to 'tinction, what better title for a artist that thinks he's 'ood, 'ut 's 'ot, if there 's a role called that, thats something I did not know...

Edit: By the way, I aranged the drawing to not say prentious artist any more incase that really is someone's role

My best translation. (Couldn't understand all of it, though)

I still find that an insanely unlikely coincidence. :p

EDIT: Wait, is Pretentious Artist a common saying? If so, I'll take back my vote. I've only heard the term in KoL, which I don't think HS plays, and from Hammered when she sometimes mentions Spamumu Tu,

drgamer
10-09-2007, 09:20 PM
okay i'll translate:
yeah seriously, how would you know, besides, it was a bad drawing to be spam, and pretentious means unwarranted claim to (dis?)tinction, what better title for a(n) artist that thinks he's good, but he's not, if there is a role called that, thats something I did not know...

edit: by the way, I changed the drawing to not say pretentious artist anymore in case that really is someone's role

hopefully that helps... if not... 'en at least I tried...
Meh... sloppy attempt at translating (with some help of Coolguy's translation)

I think I got it right XD

Hammered
10-09-2007, 09:21 PM
Vote Summary:

Hammer Sideways: 2 (Coolguy, drgamer)

13 votes to lynch.

Special Note regarding the Atmospheric Spammers:

The Atmospheric Spammers are chosen near the start of each day. The must post 1-3 spam messages. One will do. They don't have to post 3. There is no requirement to post the spam before your real posts. You can post stuff in any order.

Also, this is done so that the actual spam team doesn't give themselves away. There is no requirement for members of the actual spam team to post any spam at all, unless they happen to have been tagged as an atmospheric spammer for that day.

The number of Atmospheric Spammers is based on the number of actual spammers that remain alive. There will be one Atmospheric Spammer per actual Spam team member still alive.

I don't want this topic to be turned into complete spam, so if you are not a designated Atmospheric Spammer, please don't spam. We have enough of the stuff to wade through without your help.

People who post spam who are not designated Atmospheric Spammers may be banned from the game at the discretion of your friendly admin.

Coolguy
10-09-2007, 09:27 PM
Yeah, it comes up every once in a while on Google- I guess I'll UNVOTE. I still think a cop should probably inspect Hammer Sideways to make sure.

Also, who on the forums would have a speech impediment like that?

Hammer Sideways
10-09-2007, 09:32 PM
Meh... sloppy attempt at translating (with some help of Coolguy's translation)

I think I got it right XD

'avo, 'avo

KoL, which I don't think HS plays
I 'ay it, I'm an 'ordion 'ief, 'owever I 'ave 'eard the 'itle 'etentious 'tist 'efore... I 'ave 'so 'eard of 'etentious 'anguage as 'ell, and 'ust 'ain ol' 'etentious 'oo...

drgamer
10-09-2007, 09:33 PM
Well, all my reasoning that I should vote HS has gone...
so: UNVOTE
Remember, this is Hammered. And they are Speech Enhancements ;)

Roland
10-10-2007, 12:30 AM
Okay, my second post... Just like my last one, it's totally just "feeling", if you will. And this time it's about Coolguy!

Okay, I'd first like to bring up the point of his opinion he was at the whole idea the Vakarrus Night-Kill.

Alright, I finally have a chance to say a normal non-completely-spammy post! :p Not much important to say, though.

I can't think of any good reason the Mafia killed Varkarrus other than the GF-faking-idiocy thing (which is a pretty lame answer). Even if an MC inspected him, they wouldn't ever kill a Jester, since a Jester is TRYING to waste a town lynch (unless the Mafia thought for some stupid reason that he was on a 2nd spammer team, considering that CDL is a spammer). There's no way that a role like that could hurt the Mafia, so it's probably not an MC thing.

Roland, your assumption that GFs always discuss the kill with their minions is wrong. Godfathers in the past HAVE wasted their choices by not discussing with their minions. It happened in Superhero Mafia when Julian was the GF, and that was one of the main reasons the Mafia lost. However, that's probably unlikely, as this game's Mafia member ranks are probably ranked by skill (since Luck Mafia was ranked by skill)

And why do you think I have a PM, Roland? That seemed pretty out-of-the-blue. :p

Oh, and... erm...

*Spam*

/moreatmosphericspam

EDIT: Oh, yeah, almost none of you are in Invisible Mode- I suggest everybody goes and checks it (since for some reason my Invisible Mode was turned off during BM's game- It might've happened to some other people)

Notice how dismissive he was? I don't know, it's just a gut feeling. If you assume that the mafia might not be smart enough to discuss the kill beforehand (which I don't even agree with), why do you assume the mafia are smart enough to realise they wouldn't kill a jester (and plus, we're not even sure whether the Jester winning ends the game or not- They could have just been playing it safe)?

Elmikkino, I don't think you realize that this game isn't some sort of murder mystery thing. Almost no kills or lynches are based on grudges and such- They're purely strategic, unless the Godfather is a very bad player. :p

Here's that feeling again... And plus, I think ElMikkino was saying that they didn't kill him because he isn't experienced. I don't know.

Would 'Pretentious' have anything to do with your role, Hammer Sideways?

EDIT: Meh, y'know, I'm just going to VOTE: Hammer Sideways. Why? Because I happen to know that one of the spammers in Spamumu Tu is going to be the Pretentious Artist, and since HS just uploaded a drawing labelled ''Pretentious'', I'll take that as a roleclaim (which is illegal, by the way). :p

...This is just downright suspicious. Voting Hammer Sideways simply because he hinted at his role (which hardly sounds mafia/spammy at all)? Also, I will point out that Coolguy, as a mafia, is the sort of person who half-heartedly starts bandwagons. He did it in Pirate Mafia and Medieval Mafia.

Also notice how Coolguy and Drgamer's votes followed each other around? And with this post:

Uh.... I think Hammered accidentally gave out the way of finding out the mafia...

Either that or it is some fiendishly evil way of tricking us...
Edit: Coolguy Ninja edited me... And uh...
Vote: Hammer Sideways... (I was tempted too anyways)

Notice how he edited? He originally didn't vote, but when he saw Coolguy vote, he took advantage of it (I don't believe the 'I was tempted too anyways' bit).

...However, I shall not vote. I'm not really sure. I'm probably wrong. You know, I'm hardly ever right.

P.S: Oh, and Hammered, CheeseLord voted HS, didn't he?

CatWoman
10-10-2007, 12:38 AM
I am posting simply so no one will think I'm lurking! :roll: As a newbie, this is all so much gibberish (or spam?) to me. I thought Coolguy made total sense. Just MO. ;) No vote yet, it's early.

Hammer Sideways
10-10-2007, 01:08 AM
'nyways, 'ould 'nyone 'are 'or a 'up of 'ea? I 'ink it 'ill 'alm us 'own, 'ter 'll, 'e 'eed 'o 'ink 'ing out 'efore 'oming 'o 'lusions, 'therwise 'e 'ay 'ust 'et 'id 'f 'll the 'ocent 'eople, 'ather 'an the 'am 'afia, 'e 'so 'ould 'ry 'nd 'void 'eceit.

regeneratorizer
10-10-2007, 01:22 AM
'nyways, 'ould 'nyone 'are 'or a 'up of 'ea? I 'ink it 'ill 'alm us 'own, 'ter 'll, 'e 'eed 'o 'ink 'ing out 'efore 'oming 'o 'lusions, 'therwise 'e 'ay 'ust 'et 'id 'f 'll the 'ocent 'eople, 'ather 'an the 'am 'afia, 'e 'so 'ould 'ry 'nd 'void 'eceit.

Anyways, would anyone care for a cup of tea? I think it will calm us down, after all, we need to think things out before coming to conclusions, otherwise we may just get rid of all the innocent people, rather than the mafia, we also could try and avoid deceit.Hope I did OK!...Talk about a run-on sentence!

Hammer Sideways
10-10-2007, 02:28 AM
Hope I did OK!...Talk about a run-on sentence!

'avo 'avo *claps hands*, 'ou 'an 'derstand 'y 'alking... 'cellant! 'Nd 'ah, it 'as a 'un on 'entence I 'ave to 'gree. 'll 'ry 'arder 'ext 'ime 'o 'ake it so 'at it's 'ot a 'un 'on 'entence...

Mossysox
10-10-2007, 02:31 AM
I am posting simply so no one will think I'm lurking! :roll: As a newbie, this is all so much gibberish (or spam?) to me. I thought Coolguy made total sense. Just MO. ;) No vote yet, it's early.

That's the trouble with Coolguy, though - he often does make sense when he's a mafia! :p And Roland's right: Drgamer was following him around just a little too conspicuously. That 'well, I was going to vote him anyway' comment is a bit too suspicious to ignore.
It's not enough to justify voting either of them yet - but they both want watching.... ;)

'nyways, 'ould 'nyone 'are 'or a 'up of 'ea? I 'ink it 'ill 'alm us 'own, 'ter 'll, 'e 'eed 'o 'ink 'ing out 'efore 'oming 'o 'lusions, 'therwise 'e 'ay 'ust 'et 'id 'f 'll the 'ocent 'eople, 'ather 'an the 'am 'afia, 'e 'so 'ould 'ry 'nd 'void 'eceit.

Could HS possibly be, by any remote chance, the worst ventriloquist in the world ever? Or does he simply have to talk with his mouth full?

And thanks, Regen - that helped a lot!:p

Hammer Sideways
10-10-2007, 03:00 AM
I 'ave 'ifficulty 'eaking... 'nd 'end to 'lur 'ords 'gether, or 'atever it's 'alled...

'dit: as 'or 'eaking 'ith 'y 'outh 'ull, I 'ave a 'ammer in 'y 'outh, 'ut 'at isn't the 'eason I 'ave 'ouble 'eaking...

Roland
10-10-2007, 03:09 AM
I have difficulty speaking... And 'end to slur words together, or whatever it's called...

Edit: as for speaking with my mouth full, I have a hammer in my mouth, but that isn't the reason I have trouble speaking...

My go at translating.

P.S: I think a lot of the posts in this game will be translating Hammer Sideways' posts!

Hammer Sideways
10-10-2007, 03:10 AM
P.S: I think a lot of the posts in this game will be translating Hammer Sideways' posts!
'ore 'ikely 'an 'ot...

ElMikkino
10-10-2007, 06:31 AM
I've read this topic thourouglhy (is that how you spell it?) and have decided to Vote: Coolguy! He has sounded...I dunno, not Coolguy-ish. He sounds like a newbie mafia player. The way he was so suspicious of Hammer Sideways...I say that he's probably paranoid or being mind controlled....on second thought, my own reasons have convinced me to UNVOTE, until CG gives an explanation.

Coolguy
10-10-2007, 08:18 AM
I've read this topic thourouglhy (is that how you spell it?) and have decided to Vote: Coolguy! He has sounded...I dunno, not Coolguy-ish. He sounds like a newbie mafia player. The way he was so suspicious of Hammer Sideways...I say that he's probably paranoid or being mind controlled....on second thought, my own reasons have convinced me to UNVOTE, until CG gives an explanation.

I sound un-Coolguy-ish because the only game you've seen me play in, I was a Mafia! :p

And Pretentious Artist=RTYS, by the way.

Hammered
10-10-2007, 08:20 AM
As I often have to remind people, there are no actual forum members in any Spamumu game. Any similarity to actual forum members is purely coincidental.

WackieWatty
10-10-2007, 11:39 AM
So far, I can only see 3 pages of rubbish... apart from, quite honestly, Roland's post.

I don't know what to make of Roland, really. This seems like him being pro-town (you know, the mile long posts I can't be bothered to read, and stuff;)), but accusing CG so early on? It just seems a bit.... strange. He may well be a spammer, trying to convince us to bandwagon on CG nice and early on. This would also explain why he DIDN'T vote for him, as that would arouse suspicions....

I don't know... it's just a theory... other than that, I have nothing to go on.

AtkinsSJ
10-10-2007, 12:06 PM
Firstly, arg! So much stuff already! That... I can't be bothered to read! ONOS!


Um... yeah. I got nothin'.

Connor S.
10-10-2007, 02:32 PM
That was very profound. :p

Roland
10-10-2007, 02:43 PM
So far, I can only see 3 pages of rubbish... apart from, quite honestly, Roland's post.

I don't know what to make of Roland, really. This seems like him being pro-town (you know, the mile long posts I can't be bothered to read, and stuff;)), but accusing CG so early on? It just seems a bit.... strange. He may well be a spammer, trying to convince us to bandwagon on CG nice and early on. This would also explain why he DIDN'T vote for him, as that would arouse suspicions....

I don't know... it's just a theory... other than that, I have nothing to go on.

Heh, thanks. And no, I don't encourage voting Coolguy, to be honest. I play the Devil's Advocate a lot. Am I REALLY sure he's a spammer? No way. Just watch him, preferably with an eye...

Also, Maiden Japan, blackmyth, diginova, Wesley, Mr.Onion, ducklegion, PCR, Julian... What are your thoughts?

Connor S.
10-10-2007, 02:54 PM
I'm thinking that theres no real substantial evedince, and so assuming the host allows it, I'm going to have to consider voting for no lynch Although it would give the mafia a free night kill, so I wont until no evedince comes up after going around in circles for a while.

drgamer
10-10-2007, 03:08 PM
I always dislike the first day...
It's just a waiting game :/

Wesley
10-10-2007, 03:14 PM
I thought Coolguy was acting a little suspicious for a while (Not enough to vote him though), but it's always so hard to tell what side Coolguy is on... As for Varkarrus getting killed, I found that a little strange. I don't know if the spammers have a spammer cop, but if he was inspected I guess I can see why they would attack Varkarrus. Still, I wonder if it was a random target, or something.

Connor S.
10-10-2007, 03:27 PM
I suppose the most logical course of action would be to ask hammered if we can no lynch, and then... well, we can kind of go from there. *asks hammered if we can no lynch*

PlasmaCannonsRule
10-10-2007, 03:28 PM
Spum! Lovely super-duper spum!

Julian
10-10-2007, 03:41 PM
I always dislike the first day...
It's just a waiting game :/
I agree with you. But it's good that it's there, it allows us to find out who may be mafia. I always say something like this, I know, and it always goes againt me as evidence. And false evidence at that.

happystickman
10-10-2007, 03:49 PM
Well, I got Nothing so far, I say no lynch, seeing that Hammered alows it.

Connor S.
10-10-2007, 03:50 PM
Well this isn't going anywhere... :???:

blackmyth
10-10-2007, 04:03 PM
Nobody's immediately suspicious (by suspicious, I mean vote-worthy kind of suspicious) to me, but I do see some odd behavior.

Connor S.
10-10-2007, 04:15 PM
Errrrg... Cool Guys vote on hammer sideways was kind of out of the blue, and on some shaky evedince, and Dr Gamers "I was going to vote him anyways" comment is strange, a little bit like bandwagoning, but Im not going to vote yet, as I want to be absolutely sure, in case I vote off innocent townies...

EDIT: We need the lurkers to post!

Hammer Sideways
10-10-2007, 04:59 PM
I thought Coolguy was acting a little suspicious for a while (Not enough to vote him though), but it's always so hard to tell what side Coolguy is on... As for Varkarrus getting killed, I found that a little strange. I don't know if the spammers have a spammer cop, but if he was inspected I guess I can see why they would attack Varkarrus. Still, I wonder if it was a random target, or something.

'andom 'arget, 'aybe, 'erhaps 'ey 'aw 'im as a 'reat, 'is is 'ust a 'ypthesis 'ough... 'o 'ows 'hy 'ey 'illed 'im... I 'on't 'ow, I 'ill 'ink 'at 'ey 'ere 'fraid of 'im, or 'at 'ey 'anted to 'onfuse us...

drgamer
10-10-2007, 05:09 PM
random target, maybe, perhaps they saw him as a threat, this is just a hypothesis though... who knows why they killed him... I don't know, I still think that they were afraid of him, or that they wanted to confuse us...
translat'd for your convenience.
Now we continue with your regularly scheduled game.
Meh, at least I made my horrible townie mistake early on enough to fix it ;)

We still need to wait for all these lurkers...

Coolguy
10-10-2007, 05:11 PM
I don't think No Lynch would help all that much- We already had a night to collect evidence. It's just going to be the same evidence tommorow, except somebody else will be dead (and a cop might come forward, but I doubt that). And why are you insisting so much on No Lynch without voting No Lynch yourself? :p It just seems like Mafia-trying-to-avoid-being-the-first-to-vote sort of thing.

Anyways, I currently suspect Elmikkino and Roland- They went after me, yet they competely ignored the people who immediately hopped onto my vote! (And I stopped my own bandwagon, anyways) I also suspect Mr O, because he's already had 2 days to visit- Could he be hiding again? :p

Coolguy
10-10-2007, 05:46 PM
I've gone re-reading the topic, and now it's time to address Roland's rather odd post:

Notice how dismissive he was? I don't know, it's just a gut feeling. If you assume that the mafia might not be smart enough to discuss the kill beforehand (which I don't even agree with), why do you assume the mafia are smart enough to realise they wouldn't kill a jester (and plus, we're not even sure whether the Jester winning ends the game or not- They could have just been playing it safe)?

That's just idiotic- A Jester is trying as hard as he can to waste a town lynch. There's no reason the Mafia would get rid of somebody who's going to save them from having to make a lynch themselves.



...This is just downright suspicious. Voting Hammer Sideways simply because he hinted at his role (which hardly sounds mafia/spammy at all)? Also, I will point out that Coolguy, as a mafia, is the sort of person who half-heartedly starts bandwagons. He did it in Pirate Mafia and Medieval Mafia.

If somebody new said ''What is 'Mafia Cop'!? 'cause I got a PM saying I'm one and I want to know'', you would vote them. :p Hammer Sideways had hinted that he was a Pretentious Artist, which I know is an evildoer in Spamumu Tu (RTYS). I had every reason to vote him, until I realized that it was a common saying. I stopped my bandwagon myself, anyways. Why are you so obsessed with killing me off on Day 1?

...However, I shall not vote. I'm not really sure. I'm probably wrong. You know, I'm hardly ever right.

And now Roland is hoping that somebody else will use his evidence to vote me so they'll get the blame instead of him- This is the most suspicious post I've seen so far.

Heh, thanks. And no, I don't encourage voting Coolguy, to be honest. I play the Devil's Advocate a lot. Am I REALLY sure he's a spammer? No way. Just watch him, preferably with an eye...



And when WackieWatty pointed out that Roland going after me as soon as he gets a good excuse is pretty suspicious, Roland quickly posts that he doesn't think I'm evil- That's... strange, to say the least. :p Roland is currently on the top of my suspicions list.

EDIT: Who's the atmospheric spammers? It will let us know how many Mafia there are.
1) Me
2) DrG
3) Chaucer
4) Hammer Sideways

Who else has to atmospherically spam?

Connor S.
10-10-2007, 06:18 PM
I'm pretty sure wackie watty does, judging by his first post

drgamer
10-10-2007, 06:47 PM
Six... Hammered told me.
SIX!
(the assignments were apparently sent in groups of three)
[I'm going on the fact that 'I have no reason to hide this' thing that Hammered told me so... this should be fair game]

Connor S.
10-10-2007, 06:53 PM
You know, we're not getting anywhere by this, and being hippocrits won't help either, so we need to start look at the little bit of evedince that we DO have, namely, the first night kill. We should also probably take a look at the people that randomly bandwagoned with coolguy...

ElMikkino
10-10-2007, 06:55 PM
That kill still seems really weird to me. Maybe someone has a weird roll, and they can switch the night kill?

Coolguy
10-10-2007, 06:59 PM
That kill still seems really weird to me. Maybe someone has a weird roll, and they can switch the night kill?

Those kinds of roles break the game- They completely ruin the concept of cops if all their inspections are likely to actually be inspections of other people.

ElMikkino
10-10-2007, 07:04 PM
Those kinds of roles break the game- They completely ruin the concept of cops if all their inspections are likely to actually be inspections of other people.

But this is Spamumu Mafia. It probably has a spammy role.

CheeseLord
10-10-2007, 07:15 PM
Of course, it could just be completely random. I don't really see it as likely that most of these other explanations are the case. And you probably already know that close attention to detail is critical here.

CatWoman
10-10-2007, 08:33 PM
I agree with WW that this whole thread appears to be mostly rubbish. But I am ready to vote! I am a total newbie but have been reading this forum and other info about the mafia game. I still don't know what I'm doing, but ...
VOTE: Hammer Sideways

I don't know if I have to explain my reasons, but I will attempt to do so.

First, his posts are totally annoying. While that may be subterfuge to make us think he's a spammer when he's really not, I'm quite tired of it.

Second, he really doesn't say anything at all suspicious, but he strikes me as intelligent enough to try to fool people.

So there you have it. My first vote. I hope I'm right! :???:

Hammer Sideways
10-10-2007, 09:12 PM
...First, his posts are totally annoying.

'at is 'o 'noying 'bout 'em, the 'ay I 'alk? 'onstructive 'riticism 'ould 'e 'reciated...

'dit: oh 'y the 'ay, it 'ould 'e 'orse, I 'ould 'alk 'ike 'is: 'e 'f 'ou 'n 'slate 's, I 'et 'ou 'n't, 'use 'm 'ying 'o 'ake it 'icult 'o 'slate...

Coolguy
10-10-2007, 09:12 PM
But this is Spamumu Mafia. It probably has a spammy role.

Why do you think there's guaranteed to be a switcher role? I don't see much evidence other than Varkarrus, and there could be less insane reasons for that.

And not only that, why is it probably evil if whoever the switcher is made the Mafia kill Varkarrus?

munkee
10-10-2007, 09:20 PM
Jumping on the bandwagon. :p

Vote: Hammer Sideways

Coolguy
10-10-2007, 09:25 PM
The fact that Hammered didn't punish him (mostly) proves that it wasn't a real roleclaim.

And Christian, Hammered had speech ''enhancements'' in her last game- I wouldn't be surprised if Hammer Sideways had one in this game. Do any forum members have silent first letters?

Hammered
10-10-2007, 09:39 PM
Vote Summary:

Hammer Sideways: 2 (Christian, munkee)

13 votes to lynch.


No lynch voting is only permitted when the game starts on day. Once a night kill happens, they are never allowed. So, you can't vote no lynch. Now get to deliberating.

Hammer Sideways
10-10-2007, 10:28 PM
'llow 'e 'o 'orrect 'o 'ammered, I 'ave 'ree 'otes, the 'hird is 'heeslord's... or 'irst, 'ince 'e 'as the 'irst of 'ose 'ree 'o 'ote 'or 'e...

Roland
10-11-2007, 03:23 AM
Right. I have a lot to say. And I'm going to say it (that makes sense, doesn't it?).

Okay,

I've gone re-reading the topic, and now it's time to address Roland's rather odd post:

That's just idiotic- A Jester is trying as hard as he can to waste a town lynch. There's no reason the Mafia would get rid of somebody who's going to save them from having to make a lynch themselves.

If somebody new said ''What is 'Mafia Cop'!? 'cause I got a PM saying I'm one and I want to know'', you would vote them. :p Hammer Sideways had hinted that he was a Pretentious Artist, which I know is an evildoer in Spamumu Tu (RTYS). I had every reason to vote him, until I realized that it was a common saying. I stopped my bandwagon myself, anyways. Why are you so obsessed with killing me off on Day 1?

And now Roland is hoping that somebody else will use his evidence to vote me so they'll get the blame instead of him- This is the most suspicious post I've seen so far.

And when WackieWatty pointed out that Roland going after me as soon as he gets a good excuse is pretty suspicious, Roland quickly posts that he doesn't think I'm evil- That's... strange, to say the least. :p Roland is currently on the top of my suspicions list.

EDIT: Who's the atmospheric spammers? It will let us know how many Mafia there are.
1) Me
2) DrG
3) Chaucer
4) Hammer Sideways

Who else has to atmospherically spam?

Coolguy's second paragraph (about the Jester), fails to adress the FACT THAT THE MAFIA MAY HAVE THOUGHT THE JESTER BEING LYNCHED COULD HAVE ENDED THE GAME! Arg! Of course, if you think about it, it shouldn't because that would completely wreck the game. But they could have been doing it to be on the safe side, and to vote the Jester off is the equivalent of a No Lynch, which isn't that bad for the town!

Secondly, in your third paragraph (lol), there are two things that make me wonder. How do you know that the Pretentious Artist is a mafia from Spamumu Tu (ryts didn't spam, anyway)? Since there is no-one backing up that claim, and that I haven't seen it anywhere on the forum, I assume you must have got that information in the chat (is that right?). However, there rarely is a time in the chat with just you and Hammered, and since there's a load of people participating in this game, I doubt none of them were in the chat at the time in which she told you. Please, anyone else, if you have heard this somewhere, PLEASE TELL ME! Of course, the reason I bring this up is that if Hammered didn't tell anyone this, then you'd have to be mafia; only a mafia would know the identity of another mafia - And you'd be lying! And stopped the bandwagon yourself? There could have easily been an ulterior motive to that, or simply because you thought it'd be too hard and not worth it. And I'm not obsessed with killing you on Day 1! If I was that "obsessive", as you put it, don't you think I would vote? I could easily start a bandwagon, especially since there's a couple of people agreeing with me.

Fourth paragraph: Oh, please. Saying that that post was "the most suspicious" simply because I discouraged voting you? Give me a break, please. And there's a complete and utter flaw to that... Now that I am suspicious of you, I have two options: To vote you, or not to vote you. In what way is not voting more suspicious than voting? Even if, for some whacked out reason it was, you would be a hypocrite, no? Do I not see a vote in your post? In fact, just to prove that I don't want you lynched with this amount of evidence, I ask ElMikkino to Unvote.

The fifth paragraph makes me cringe... I said that I don't think you're evil. I'm still not sure. You are suspicious to me, but I don't encourage voting you. To me, it sounds like a paragraph solely made so that in the last sentence you can repeat "He is at the top of my suspicions list", or whatever.

And in another post, you said ElMikkino was also suspicious. Are you ignoring the fact that he's playing exactly the same as last game?

drgamer
10-11-2007, 06:02 AM
Ask granted. Mostly because he already unvoted. In the same post that he voted.
:roll:
There's a helpful who's voting for who up there, just a few posts away (I doubt it took you that long to write that post up)

ElMikkino
10-11-2007, 06:28 AM
But this is Spamumu Mafia. It probably has a spammy role.

It's just one of my theories, CG. You should read posts more carefully.

Coolguy
10-11-2007, 08:40 AM
Coolguy's second paragraph (about the Jester), fails to adress the FACT THAT THE MAFIA MAY HAVE THOUGHT THE JESTER BEING LYNCHED COULD HAVE ENDED THE GAME! Arg! Of course, if you think about it, it shouldn't because that would completely wreck the game. But they could have been doing it to be on the safe side, and to vote the Jester off is the equivalent of a No Lynch, which isn't that bad for the town!

No, it means the Mafia get a 2nd nightkill after they lynch off the Jester. :roll:

Secondly, in your third paragraph (lol), there are two things that make me wonder. How do you know that the Pretentious Artist is a mafia from Spamumu Tu (ryts didn't spam, anyway)? Since there is no-one backing up that claim, and that I haven't seen it anywhere on the forum, I assume you must have got that information in the chat (is that right?). However, there rarely is a time in the chat with just you and Hammered, and since there's a load of people participating in this game, I doubt none of them were in the chat at the time in which she told you.

There's plenty of time when I'm alone with Hammered late at night in the Chat, and we often discuss things we're building. :p

And I'm not obsessed with killing you on Day 1! If I was that "obsessive", as you put it, don't you think I would vote? I could easily start a bandwagon, especially since there's a couple of people agreeing with me.

If you were to start a bandwagon, Actually, the only person who agrees with you is Elmikkino.

Fourth paragraph: Oh, please. Saying that that post was "the most suspicious" simply because I discouraged voting you? Give me a break, please. And there's a complete and utter flaw to that... Now that I am suspicious of you, I have two options: To vote you, or not to vote you. In what way is not voting more suspicious than voting? Even if, for some whacked out reason it was, you would be a hypocrite, no? Do I not see a vote in your post? In fact, just to prove that I don't want you lynched with this amount of evidence, I ask ElMikkino to Unvote.

That post is the most suspicious because as soon as somebody saw you as suspicious, you switched your argument around. :p (And Elmikkino hasn't voted me)

And in another post, you said ElMikkino was also suspicious. Are you ignoring the fact that he's playing exactly the same as last game?

But this game, he's done countless things that are suspicious. :p Maybe you should read the topic.

Hammered
10-11-2007, 08:46 AM
Rules clarification

In small games, a Jester wins the game if he succeeds in getting himself lynched. In larger games, the game usually continues afterwards, with the win for the Jester being recorded early, and no other ramifications. Regardless of the size of game, the Jester losing never ends the game.

Mr.Onion
10-11-2007, 09:29 AM
How do you know that the Pretentious Artist is a mafia from Spamumu Tu (ryts didn't spam, anyway)?

Because Hammered probably told him in chat. She told me too.

Mossysox
10-11-2007, 12:57 PM
Nobody's immediately suspicious (by suspicious, I mean vote-worthy kind of suspicious) to me, but I do see some odd behavior.

Indeed - lots to chew on, and here's some more.

These are the only reasons I can think of as to why Varkarrus might have been killed.
1. There is a Mafia Cop who belongs to a team who doesn’t understand about Jesters.
2. Somebody on the spam side believes Mafia is about grudges (real, baseless, or playful) formed outside of the game, and holds such a grudge against Varkarrus.
3. The spam side think somebody else believes that Mafia is about grudges (real, baseless, or playful) formed outside of the game [see Coolguy's comment to ElMikkino, #23], and is hoping that this person/these people will point a finger at a third player who holds, or may hold, such a grudge. (If so, this doesn’t seem to be going too well :p.)
4. Somebody on the spam side wants to make it look as if the Mafia Godfather is an inexperienced player, regardless of whether or not 3 is true.
5. The hit was entirely random.

Most of these possibilities imply that the kill was made by an inexperienced player or by somebody who was listening to an inexperienced player.

Which doesn’t rule anybody out, because it seems to me it's entirely possible that the spam side has been divided into two teams, with one having the kill power on one night and the other the next. (I doubt if they’re in competition with each other: spammers all want the same thing, surely?)
There are several reasons for thinking this, including this:-

I've gone re-reading the topic, and now it's time to address Roland's rather odd post:
[... - deleted to reduce general brain strain from excess repetition]
EDIT: Who's the atmospheric spammers? It will let us know how many Mafia there are.
1) Me
2) DrG
3) Chaucer
4) Hammer Sideways

Who else has to atmospherically spam?

Asking this question will not tell you how many spammers there are. Hammered has explained that there are as many atmospheric spammers on any given day as there are spammers remaining in the game; the usual ratio of mafia to town suggests 6½(:shock:); and as Hammered actually asks the non-atmospheric spammers to stop posting spam in #44, it seems fair to conclude that genuine article spammers have been busy today as well.
I would expect a town-playing Coolguy to realize this, whilst his mafia self might well hope to be taken for an innocent, seeing as his name is on the spammed-today list.


And then there's Drgamer.
Six... Hammered told me.
SIX!
(the assignments were apparently sent in groups of three)
[I'm going on the fact that 'I have no reason to hide this' thing that Hammered told me so... this should be fair game]

Well, I daresay the mafia/spammer assignments may have been sent out in groups of three, but I am pretty confident the atmospheric posting tasks weren't, seeing as there were just two recipient names on the PM I received.

These two are still not my only suspects, though. I think CheeseLord's failure to withdraw his vote on Hammer Sideways is fairly suspicious, given that Coolguy showed how unsafe it was. And then, there are all our lurkers.

So, for now, I will only Vote: R-r-r-r-rhubarb!!!
You know it makes sense. ;)

Connor S.
10-11-2007, 01:17 PM
Jumping on the bandwagon. :p

Vote: Hammer Sideways

Wow, That was a suspicious post! He doesn't post all game, then his very first post is to say "just jumping on the bandwagon" and voting hammer sideways! Its hardly a bandwagon when theres only one other person voting that person... also, hes probably mafia judging by this evedince that is trying to sneak unoticed with a small post, and with the mania of coolguys and rolands debate... in fact, christian, (I think) is the only other person that had a vote on hammer sideways when munkee said this, so their probably both mafia trying to start a bandwagon together... This is suspiciouys, so because of this, im going to Sign the petition to Ban: Munkee. My first vote. there you have it.

Ps. Sorry if no one understands this, I was a little excited about the evedince I had found.

Hammered
10-11-2007, 01:21 PM
Vote Summary:

Hammer Sideways: 2 (Christian, munkee)
munkee: 1 (Connor S.

13 votes to ban.

munkee
10-11-2007, 02:16 PM
Wow, That was a suspicious post! He doesn't post all game, then his very first post is to say "just jumping on the bandwagon" and voting hammer sideways! Its hardly a bandwagon when theres only one other person voting that person... also, hes probably mafia judging by this evedince that is trying to sneak unoticed with a small post, and with the mania of coolguys and rolands debate... in fact, christian, (I think) is the only other person that had a vote on hammer sideways when munkee said this, so their probably both mafia trying to start a bandwagon together... This is suspiciouys, so because of this, im going to Sign the petition to Ban: Munkee. My first vote. there you have it.

Ps. Sorry if no one understands this, I was a little excited about the evedince I had found.

Maybe you and Hammer Sideways are both mafia, and you are defending his cause, singling me out so that I get lynched and the mafia are safe.

I'm sticking with my vote.

Coolguy
10-11-2007, 02:24 PM
Hmm- I don't have much to say, but since Mr O has neglected the topic 3 days in a row, I'll VOTE: Mr Onion to wake him up. :p

EDIT: Oh, wait, he DID post (and not only that, but he backed me up:p)! Sorry! UNVOTE.

ducklegion
10-11-2007, 02:43 PM
Well I guess I should post. Onion did post, so you should pay more attention CG. I still don't think we should vote anybody off.:roll:

Coolguy
10-11-2007, 02:45 PM
Well I guess I should post. Onion did post, so you should pay more attention CG. I still don't think we should vote anybody off.:roll:

Hammered said there's no ''No Lynch'' option, though.

Connor S.
10-11-2007, 03:16 PM
Ok, I really don't see any logic behind your statement Munkee, I mean, I know my post didn't have much logic either, but at least it had some, yours however simply caught me off gaurd. your basically saying "You know I'm mafia, so I'm going to draw attention away from myself by blaming you on silly evedince." I had some evedince, namely the fact that your "bandwagon" didn't exist, Ill unvote if you post any evedince at all.

Also- Your voting Hammer Sideways because Christian did, and he did it because "His posts are very suspicous", well, if hes refering to the lack of first letters, Hammereds last game, Luck Mafia, also had speech "enhancements" I belive, so this might be the same thing. Therefor, theres no reason to vote Hammer Sideways.

Im also NOT protecting him, Im just trying to stop us from voting out an innocent townie on no evedince, as it would make a bad start for the game. Unless of course you WANT an innocent townie lynch?

ElMikkino
10-11-2007, 03:34 PM
Connor S. seems like what I did in the last game. He goes on the tiniest suspicion of somebody. So, spare him! It's his first mafia game!

Coolguy
10-11-2007, 03:38 PM
After re-reading the topic, I guess I'll VOTE: Hammer Sideways- The Pretentious thing was pretty unlikely.

Connor S.
10-11-2007, 03:38 PM
Sorry for the double post, but I've already edited my old one three times with new information, and well... yah.

Anyways, acording to Hammered, theres no No Lynch option after night, so its inevitable that we vote someone off eventually, and with a game this big, that might not happen for a while, so I belive the most logical course of action is to at least make a productive lunch, and in my opinion, Munkees the most suspicious... so I urge you all to look at my previous evedince, as Im to lazy to repeat it, and to VOTE MUNKEE! Hes the most suspicious in my opinion, so hes the best lynch choice... and if hes mafia, theres a large chance christian is too, so it would be a two in one if we're lucky, so Im going to repeat, Vote Munkee!

Roland
10-11-2007, 03:39 PM
Bah. I'm annoyed. This post doesn't arouse any suspicions. I just wanted to pointlessly argue...

No, it means the Mafia get a 2nd nightkill after they lynch off the Jester. :roll:

There's plenty of time when I'm alone with Hammered late at night in the Chat, and we often discuss things we're building. :p

If you were to start a bandwagon, Actually, the only person who agrees with you is Elmikkino.

That post is the most suspicious because as soon as somebody saw you as suspicious, you switched your argument around. :p (And Elmikkino hasn't voted me)

But this game, he's done countless things that are suspicious. :p Maybe you should read the topic.

Firstly, no, it's the equivalent of a No Lynch! Okay, it's after a previous night, but our cops would be doing some good inspecting (and we definitely have more than one). That's not beneficial for the mafia at all. So, the mafia killed him so that wouldn't happen.

Secondly, hmmm. I'm a bit sceptical about this, but I'll believe it for now. That kind of explains some of your behaviour.

Thirdly, Mossysox kind of agrees with me, and I only said a couple of people agree with me, right? Meh, I do have a feeling I have the power to start one, but that might just be something in my head.

Fourthly, that's wrong! I never changed my argument, I just made it explicit that I didn't want to vote you! Look! Read the thread! :p Look at the last line of my second post!

Fifthly, MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ THE THREAD! :p These are all of ElMikkino's posts...

I agree that the lynching of varkarrus was very weird. He didn't even sign up for the last 2 mafia games.

Why do you think I should?

I've read this topic thourouglhy (is that how you spell it?) and have decided to Vote: Coolguy! He has sounded...I dunno, not Coolguy-ish. He sounds like a newbie mafia player. The way he was so suspicious of Hammer Sideways...I say that he's probably paranoid or being mind controlled....on second thought, my own reasons have convinced me to UNVOTE, until CG gives an explanation.

That kill still seems really weird to me. Maybe someone has a weird roll, and they can switch the night kill?

But this is Spamumu Mafia. It probably has a spammy role.

It's just one of my theories, CG. You should read posts more carefully.

Connor S. seems like what I did in the last game. He goes on the tiniest suspicion of somebody. So, spare him! It's his first mafia game!

...And where are these "countless suspicious posts"? I certainly can't find one. Y'know, Coolguy does this a lot when he's a mafia in other games. And I mean a LOT. He casts some suspicion around people for no apparent reason at all.

Lastly, Coolguy is doing what he did as a ghost in Pirate Mafia. He's voting, and then unvoting in the same post. Meh. Just noticed.

EDIT: WHAT!?!? Coolguy just voted Hammer Sideways again! Well, now I don't know what to think. If Hammer Sideways turns out to be a townie, I am SO voting Coolguy! And, well, there's only one way to find out... VOTE:Hammer Sideways. Yes, I know it sounds weird, after my accusations of CG and all, but if he turns out to be town, I can't wait to see if Coolguy is a spammer...

Oh, and also, Connor.S has a point, although I may point out that Munkee does this a lot in mafia games. He is, as you would say, "a bandwagoner". And yes, he does pop out of nowhere to post, but Connor.S hasn't played before, and wouldn't have known that. But you're doing good for you're first game!

ElMikkino
10-11-2007, 03:40 PM
Ok, that was very suspicious. After resolving that whole situation, he goes and votes for HS because he changed his mind! For now, I will VOTE: CG, until something else comes up.

EDIT: Now that I have read Atkins' post, CG seems even MORE suspicious! So, I am keeping my vote.

happystickman
10-11-2007, 03:48 PM
Ill jump on that good ol bandwagon and Vote Hammer Sideways

Coolguy
10-11-2007, 03:49 PM
I highly suggest any cops out there inspect Roland. :p You'll probably get a fun surprise.

Connor S.
10-11-2007, 03:54 PM
Everyones voting everyone else and now I dont know WHAT to think... Ill Unvote for now, because theres so many arguments flying around, but im still keeping my eyes out... :shock:

EDIT: You know, I feel like we're going around in circles, we really need those lurkers to vote! grrrr.... You all know who I'm talking about, so show yourselves! we need more opinions.

Hammered
10-11-2007, 04:02 PM
Vote Summary:

Hammer Sideways: 5 (Christian, munkee, Coolguy, Roland, happystickman)
Coolguy: 1 (ElMikkino)

13 votes to ban.

diginova
10-11-2007, 04:55 PM
I haven't been lurking, I've just been away from the internet. I agree that Hammer Sideways is suspicious, but they are new at this game, so the posting of the "pretentious artist" may just be a newbie mistake, since he probably doesn't have the information about Spamumu that we did. However, it does seem suspicious that Hammered didn't modkill or disintegratify him/his post, so I have a feeling his roleclaim is false, but my vote stands for now. But he's still the most suspicious person currently out there, so I'll vote: Hammer Sideways to get him posting, and if new information comes up, it's still L-7.

Hammered
10-11-2007, 04:57 PM
Vote Summary:

Hammer Sideways: 6 (Christian, munkee, Coolguy, Roland, happystickman, diginova)
Coolguy: 1 (ElMikkino)

13 votes to ban.

Hammer Sideways
10-11-2007, 05:09 PM
'oland, I 'o 'gree 'ith, 'at 'ou 'aid, 'ut I 'ink it is 'ill 'oo 'arly 'oo 'ump 'o 'onclusions.

'dit: 'eah, I 'gree 'hat 'ristian's 'ote 'nd 'unkee's 'ote 'ere 'inda 'spicious, 'ut I 'an't 'ump 'o 'onclusions 'et...

chaucer
10-11-2007, 05:19 PM
Really, Hammer Sideways's speech problem is quite annoying, and, after re-reading, I think he's the most likely candidate for Vote: Hammer Sideways.

Hammered
10-11-2007, 05:27 PM
Over halfway there for some of us:

Vote Summary:

Hammer Sideways: 7 (Christian, munkee, Coolguy, Roland, happystickman, diginova, chaucer)
Coolguy: 1 (ElMikkino)

13 votes to ban.

ducklegion
10-11-2007, 05:30 PM
I have a really good reason for doing this!
VOTE : CoolGuy (Dont be mad CG)

Hammer Sideways
10-11-2007, 05:30 PM
'y 'ome of us 'ou 'ean 'e, 'ight? 'ince I 'ave 8 'otes (3 of 'ich are 'cause of 'he 'ay I 'alk)...

Hammered
10-11-2007, 05:31 PM
Over halfway there for some of us:

Vote Summary:

Hammer Sideways: 7 (Christian, munkee, Coolguy, Roland, happystickman, diginova, chaucer)
Coolguy: 2 (ElMikkino, ducklegion)

13 votes to ban.

Coolguy
10-11-2007, 05:32 PM
What's your good reason, DL?

ducklegion
10-11-2007, 05:36 PM
Well, I was using my special nose, I pointed it at Coolguy, but somehow it pointed at Varakus who was recently killed! Could it be showing that CG kill him?

Coolguy
10-11-2007, 05:41 PM
Well, I was using my special nose, I pointed it at Coolguy, but somehow it pointed at Varakus who was recently killed! Could it be showing that CG kill him?

That is because I happened to switch myself with Varkarrus last night. (Yes, folks, I'm the bus driver:D) I wanted to keep that secret, but I've been forced to roleclaim. The spammers were mad they failed to nightkill me, so now they're trying to go for me during the day. When nobody tries to claim that they're the switcher, I'll be proven good. Sorry Roland and Elmikkino, but you and your buddies won't be getting me during the day- In fact, it will probably be the reverse after I post my evidence against you after HS' death. :p (Although the main reason I'm voting HS now is because EM started trying to protect him)

Unfortunately, DL, unless a doctor protects you, you'll be nightkilled quickly! :shock: I suggest you inspect Roland tonight to guarantee his evilness. :p

Hammer Sideways
10-11-2007, 05:43 PM
Isn't 'ole 'aiming 'gainst 'he 'ules?

ducklegion
10-11-2007, 05:44 PM
Im sorry I made you roleclaim CG, now I've put us both at risk.

unvote!

Coolguy
10-11-2007, 05:44 PM
Posting your role name is- Not your power.

ducklegion
10-11-2007, 05:46 PM
oh yeah Vote :HS

Hammered
10-11-2007, 05:48 PM
Vote Summary:

Hammer Sideways: 8 (Christian, munkee, Coolguy, Roland, happystickman, diginova, chaucer, ducklegion)
Coolguy: 1 (ElMikkino)

13 votes to ban.

Hammered
10-11-2007, 06:17 PM
In addition to role details, you all have a role name. This role name might give people clues as to your identity and/or abilities, so you can't reveal it. Your role name and description will be revealed when you leave the game.

You can't reveal your role's name. You can role claim what your role does, and even the regular mafia name for it, if there is one. What you cannot do is reveal the Spamumu specific role title that I gave you.

I will use varkarrus for an example, since he is dead and you all know his role. He would have been modkilled if he had stated straight up that he was Kris, the Loony Tick. Of course, he is the only example I have, so I can't say what he was permitted to say (which for every other player would have been), I am a Jester and my goal is to get myself banned by you good people. Anyone else could legally say their mafia name, in this case Jester, and their role details. Of course, a Jester isn't allowed to say anything like that, so varkarrus was actually forbidden from saying that, but if you want to say that you are a cop, or a doctor, or an inventor, or a mafia, or a mind-controller, or even a bus driver, you can say that, unless you have a role that came with a PM that says you can't reveal details. Of course, the other participants must then decide whether or not you are telling the truth, as in any other mafia game, since sometimes mafia claim to be things that they are not, and if you have a power role and you role claim, you have painted a nice target on yourself that the mafia can take advantage of.

drgamer
10-11-2007, 06:18 PM
Meh... As of now I suppose HS is the best vote...
so:
Vote: Hammersideways

Hammered
10-11-2007, 06:22 PM
Vote Summary:

Hammer Sideways: 9 (Christian, munkee, Coolguy, Roland, happystickman, diginova, chaucer, ducklegion, drgamer)
Coolguy: 1 (ElMikkino)

13 votes to ban.

Wesley
10-11-2007, 06:26 PM
From what has been said, now HS is the only suspicious person left. VOTE:Hammer Sideways

Hammer Sideways
10-11-2007, 06:26 PM
'ings 'ren't 'ooking 'oo 'ood 'or 'e, I'll 'ust 'ope 'or the 'est...

Ryuinfinity
10-11-2007, 06:31 PM
Vote: Hammer Sideways

Hammered
10-11-2007, 06:34 PM
Vote Summary:

Hammer Sideways: 11 (Christian, munkee, Coolguy, Roland, happystickman, diginova, chaucer, ducklegion, drgamer, Wesley, Ryuinfinity)
Coolguy: 1 (ElMikkino)

13 votes to ban.

Coolguy
10-11-2007, 06:36 PM
That leaves only 2 more votes to end this very long day...

Connor S.
10-11-2007, 06:38 PM
Half of you are voting for HS just because of his speech impedemint! wow. I have nothing more to say, thoer then that I will hold my vote, and that I do not want to go through lynching a possible innocent townie for no reason.

Hammer Sideways
10-11-2007, 06:39 PM
'nce 'gain 'ou 'orgot 'bout 'heeselord's 'ote, 'eaning I 'nly 'eed 1 'ore 'ote 'o 'e 'emoved 'rom 'is 'ame,

Half of you are voting for HS just because of his speech impedemint!

'ad 'o, 'ext 'ime 'ou 'ote, 'ote 'ecause 'ey 're 'spicious, 'ot 'ecause of 'he 'ay 'ey 'alk, 'is is 'ust 'omething 'ou 'ould 'emember 'or 'ext 'ime...

ElMikkino
10-11-2007, 06:42 PM
Might as well UNVOTE, and Vote:HS.

Connor S.
10-11-2007, 06:44 PM
And there you have it. Any second now hammered will Ban HS Head off... all for a speech impediment

Hammered
10-11-2007, 06:46 PM
Vote Summary:

Hammer Sideways: 12 (Christian, munkee, Coolguy, Roland, happystickman, diginova, chaucer, ducklegion, drgamer, Wesley, Ryuinfinity, ElMikkino)

13 votes to ban.

and, Hammer Sideways, this vote count is correct as posted, as was the last one.

Hammer Sideways
10-11-2007, 06:46 PM
And there you have it. Any second now hammered will Ban HS Head off... all for a speech impediment

'is 'ame 'as 'aking up 'o 'uch 'ree 'ime 'nyways...

This topic is becoming painful to read. I think Hammer Sideways may be overdoing the spam just a little, but I don't really think of it as evidence. However, the link seems to have been removed. I think that's the best evidence we have. I will Vote: Hammer Sideways.

'less 'eese 'ord 'as 'oking or is an 'ternate 'count of one of 'hose 'eople, or isn't 'aying the 'ame, 'is 'ote 'ounts 'so..

Coolguy
10-11-2007, 06:53 PM
I'm voting him because of his impediment, Connor- I'm not voting him because a spammer protected him and he had been using the name of a spammer role, which only spammers and people who know some Spamumu Tu sekrits know about.

Hammered
10-11-2007, 06:54 PM
and, Hammer Sideways, this vote count is correct as posted, as was the last one.
as I said.

Connor S.
10-11-2007, 06:58 PM
Well, judging from his post count, hes a new member, so it was probably a coincedince, :o

But since he has 12 votes, I may as well let it lye, sorry HS, I tried. (aslo- if you are in fact a spammer- good riddance... :D )

blackmyth
10-11-2007, 07:21 PM
Eek, all this happens while I'm at school or doing homework. :(

I'm not feeling like reading the past few pages, but since he's done for anyways, Vote HS.

CatWoman
10-11-2007, 07:24 PM
I already voted, but I want to make one thing clear. A couple of pages ago Connor S. referred to me as "he." I am not a he -- I am a she. :p Off topic, I know, but I have to stand up for girls everywhere.

Hammered
10-11-2007, 07:24 PM
And so it was that everyone became annoyed with Hammer Sideways and asked the Admin to ban him. The Admin decided to let Spamumu do the honors, since it was difficult for her to ban anyone with Hammer in their name, and with a cheerful "Alakazam", Hammer Sideways was banned from Spamumufia, except for a last gasp, if he so desires, to be posted any time during Day #2.

Vote Summary:

Hammer Sideways: 13 (Christian, munkee, Coolguy, Roland, happystickman, diginova, chaucer, ducklegion, drgamer, Wesley, Ryuinfinity, ElMikkino, blackmyth)
You are the Pretentious Artist! You are a plain vanilla member of the spammers league with one exception. You have a special speech enhancement. You must always talk as if you are exactly certain of what is going on at all times. Don't be including terms like I think or maybe.

Here is a complete list of your nefarious Spamming League, in order of succession:

... Did you really think I would actually include this here? ... :roll:


Your team wins when they comprise 50% of the playing field.

Have fun!

No, I don't have any idea why he was talking that way either.

It is Night #1. Twenty-four players remain alive, please try to get your night action PMs in promptly, if you have them.

Players

AtkinsSJ
blackmyth
chaucer

Cheeselord
Christian
Connor S.

Coolguy
diginova

drgamer

ducklegion
ElMikkino

happystickman

Julian
Justin

Maiden Japan 007

Mossysox

Mr.Onion
munkee

PlasmaCannonsRule

regeneratorizer
Ryuinfinity

Roland
WackieWatty
WesleyOut of Game
varkarrus, a.k.a. Kris, the Loony Tick - neutral Jester - bored to death on Night #0
Hammer Sideways, a.k.a. The Pretentious Artist - mafia Spammer - banned on Day #1

Hammered
10-12-2007, 06:43 PM
A group of spammers gathered together and started to scheme. They crept quietly over to a house on the edge of town and knocked. As soon as the door was opened, the first one ran in, shouting, "I am Spam!"

Then the second one ran in behind, yelling, "I am Spam!"

A third one was right behind, exclaiming loudly, "Spam I am!"

The occupant could be heard muttering, "Spam I Am, Spam I Am, I do not like that Spam I am."

But it did not stop a fourth spammer from running in screaming "Do you like green eggs and Spam?"

As the occupant tried to silence them with "I do not like them, Spam I am!" a final spammer dashed in.

A final shout rang out, "Would you eat them here or there?"

It was all too much for poor ducklegion. The din was deafening and it was giving him an enormous headache. He dropped a couple of items he had been holding on the table and curled up in a little ball of feathers and stayed that way. What a tragic, completely undeserved, ending for ArachnidGourd, a townie whose only goal in life was to create wonderful things. As a townie inventor, ducklegion is leaving us, but he still wins if the townies win, and our game continues.

You are ArachnidGourd, a creator of amazing stories, worlds, and other items. You have a series of items leftover from your latest project, including a featureless beige cube, an enormous plastic nose, and a blue umbrella. Each night you can PM me with the item you want to use and who you want to use it on. You may use any or all of them on the same night, but they are fragile and may break when you use them, so use them wisely.

You win when all the evil spammers have been banned.

Ducklegion gets a last gasp, as long as he posts it during the current day.

The game is afoot again. It is Day #2. Twenty-three players remain alive, so it takes twelve votes to ban.

Players

AtkinsSJ
blackmyth
chaucer

Cheeselord
Christian
Connor S.

Coolguy
diginova

drgamer

ElMikkino

happystickman

Julian
Justin

Maiden Japan 007

Mossysox

Mr.Onion
munkee

PlasmaCannonsRule

regeneratorizer
Ryuinfinity

Roland
WackieWatty
WesleyOut of Game
varkarrus, a.k.a. Kris, the Loony Tick - neutral Jester - bored to death on Night #0
Hammer Sideways, a.k.a. The Pretentious Artist - mafia Spammer - banned on Day #1
ducklegion, a.k.a. ArachnidGourd - townie inventor- bored to death on Night #1

Coolguy
10-12-2007, 07:07 PM
Alright, it is finally day! :p Unfortunately for the Mafia, they just proved that my role claim is true! Anyways, I'll make a big post later, when I'm feeling less lazy.

Roland
10-12-2007, 07:20 PM
Same here... Of course, it'll probably be responding to Coolguy's. :p

CatWoman
10-12-2007, 07:25 PM
I'm just wondering what ducklegion was doing anywhere near that house at the edge of town. I mean, that sounds sort of isolated. He wasn't a spammer, so what was he doing there? Was he visiting the great Spamumu? Inquiring (enquiring) minds want to know.

drgamer
10-12-2007, 07:50 PM
Would you really want an inventor in the middle of a populated town? Ya know, with the chance of EXPLOSION?

Interesting how Conner kept defending our now known mafia, giving doubt towards the end...Of course that alone doesn't prove much of anything :/

ElMikkino
10-12-2007, 08:07 PM
Nobody's really suspicious, right now.

Connor S.
10-12-2007, 08:33 PM
I guess we should get Ducklegion to gasp... Seeing as theres no other evedince...

PS. Oh yah I forgot...

SPAM SPAM, Wonderful SPAM... Wondefully gleefully Happilly SPAM, SPAM in a can!

/atmosphericspam

Coolguy
10-12-2007, 08:48 PM
Ah, yes, DL, say your inspection results!

Roland
10-12-2007, 09:03 PM
He was an inventor, and he used his inspection device on you.

Coolguy
10-12-2007, 09:05 PM
I forgot that- I'd still like to find out if he learned anything last night, though, before I start my big post. :p (And any other reasons I can make up to procrastinate posting)

ducklegion
10-12-2007, 10:38 PM
I knew they'd get to me . . *wheeze* the pain . . I did the smartest thing I could think of. I inspected ElMikkino and he smelt like . . SPAM! ElMikkino is a spammer! Vote him if you want the net of inter spamless! *GASP*

Coolguy
10-12-2007, 10:43 PM
I already knew Elmikkino was a spammer- Oh, well, at least now, unfortunately, there's proof. :p VOTE: Elmikkino!

regeneratorizer
10-12-2007, 10:45 PM
Look! A giant MEH is falling from the sky!

VOTE: ELMIKKINO!

Hammered
10-12-2007, 10:53 PM
Vote Summary:

ElMikkino: 2 (Coolguy, Regeneratorizer)

12 votes to ban

CheeseLord
10-12-2007, 11:01 PM
Vote: ElMikkino. Not much else to say.

WackieWatty
10-13-2007, 02:28 AM
Er.... I know it's a bit late now, as DL has used up his last gasp, but how did he inspect ElMikkino?
If he used one of his inventions, you all need to remember that sometimes they don't give perfect results.

Now, I'm suspicious of CG, as he jumped on top of ElMikkino as soon as DL posted against ElMikkino. CG says that 'he's a proved townie', but the proof isn't strong enough for me to agree with him.
I'm not going to vote ElMikkino, because there isn't enough evidence, and I'm not going to vote CG, becasue last game I did that, I got lynched off. :p

AtkinsSJ
10-13-2007, 03:27 AM
Flying flibbertigibbet, Batman! Robots ate my Aunt Nelly! Now who's going to do the washing-up?

Mossysox
10-13-2007, 03:30 AM
So many things a person could say.....

Let's start with Day 1's spam count. Spam was posted by the following (if I missed anyone out, somebody holler):-
WackieWatty, Coolguy, Mossysox, Regeneratorizer, Chaucer, Justin, PCR, Drgamer, Hammered Sideways.
Since only six of these will have been atmospheric spammers, at least three will have been spamming because it is their nature to spam. (Remember: it is always possible that a spammer will be asked to be an atmospheric spammer for the day, as well as a Townie, so it could be more than three of us.)
We all now know about Hammer Sideways (and I apologize for not voting for him; I didn't want to vote him just for having a speech impediment, which blinded me to that 'wanting constructive criticism' comment). I'm completely convinced too about Drgamer. Coat-tailing a player like Coolguy is just another form of hiding - and if that doesn't convince you, my other reasons are in the second half of #98.
And now I'm adding WackieWatty to the list.
Er.... I know it's a bit late now, as DL has used up his last gasp, but how did he inspect ElMikkino?
If he used one of his inventions, you all need to remember that sometimes they don't give perfect results.

Now, I'm suspicious of CG, as he jumped on top of ElMikkino as soon as DL posted against ElMikkino. CG says that 'he's a proved townie', but the proof isn't strong enough for me to agree with him.
I'm not going to vote ElMikkino, because there isn't enough evidence, and I'm not going to vote CG, becasue last game I did that, I got lynched off. :p

Ducklegion supported Coolguy's role-claim on Day 1, and his role description says that his inventions may break when he uses them, not that they definitely would be one-use only items. Balance of probabilities is now very strongly in favour of Coolguy being a townie, and ElMikkino being the spammer that Ducklegion says he is. And this post should help you, too:-

That kill still seems really weird to me. Maybe someone has a weird roll, and they can switch the night kill?

An astonishingly accurate guess from a newbie Townie, or the insight of a foiled spammer?
I'm with WackieWatty. VOTE: ElMikkino.

AtkinsSJ
10-13-2007, 03:30 AM
Now that's out of the way, I'd like to point out that I'm not lurking. I just keep being busy, or finding the day's already over. And I am reading the posts! Anyway, I think we'd better avenge DL's death with a mighty Ban: ElMikkino.

WW, I see your point in a way, but I reckon it's more likely that the inspection held true. My suspicion-o-meter is ticking.

EDIT: I think ElMikkino is right - if Coolguy truly is the bus driver as he claimed, that would explain ElMikkino's confusion.

Mossysox
10-13-2007, 03:35 AM
Whoooosh!
INCOMING!
vrroom....

Out-going!

regeneratorizer
10-13-2007, 05:12 AM
Just to point out, my spam on the first day was not forced, just me posting something.

Ryuinfinity
10-13-2007, 06:21 AM
Vote: Elmikkino

Connor S.
10-13-2007, 06:26 AM
Meh, might as well avenge DL, also, I agree with mossysox and coolguy, it seems highly likely at this point that Elmikkino is a spammer... so Ban: Elmikkino yeay!

Mr.Onion
10-13-2007, 06:30 AM
Vote: ElMikkino!

Hammered
10-13-2007, 06:35 AM
Vote Summary:

ElMikkino: 8 (Coolguy, Regeneratorizer, Cheeselord, Mossysox, AtkinsSJ, Ryuininfinity, Connor S., Mr.Onion)

12 votes to ban

chaucer
10-13-2007, 07:52 AM
Vote: Elmikkino

Not much else to say, really.

Hammered
10-13-2007, 08:19 AM
Vote Summary:

ElMikkino: 9 (Coolguy, Regeneratorizer, Cheeselord, Mossysox, AtkinsSJ, Ryuininfinity, Connor S., Mr.Onion, Chaucer)

12 votes to ban

CatWoman
10-13-2007, 08:40 AM
Vote: ElMikkino
8)

Hammered
10-13-2007, 09:08 AM
Vote Summary:

ElMikkino: 10 (Coolguy, Regeneratorizer, Cheeselord, Mossysox, AtkinsSJ, Ryuininfinity, Connor S., Mr.Onion, Chaucer, Christian)

12 votes to ban

diginova
10-13-2007, 09:08 AM
The chance that the one inspection failed: possible. The chance that TWO inspections failed: almost impossible. I'll take those chances. Ban: ElMikkino.

ElMikkino
10-13-2007, 09:10 AM
An astonishingly accurate guess from a newbie Townie, or the insight of a foiled spammer?
I'm with Ducklegion. VOTE: ElMikkino.

Actually, it was just a guess! And I am a townie! That invention didn't work right! Also, for jumping on the bandwagon so quickly I VOTE:CG!

drgamer
10-13-2007, 09:12 AM
I'm completely convinced too about Drgamer. Coat-tailing a player like Coolguy is just another form of hiding - and if that doesn't convince you, my other reasons are in the second half of #98.

I had my own suspicions before hand about the guy... I wasn't entirely sure about them though (on the fence, so to speak). In other words, I wasn't sure on whether or not to vote him...

And I DID get two other recipients in the atmospheric spam recruitment thing in groups of three. Apparently that's the max Hammered could put them in. And if you were in a group of two... that's suspicious, as why would it be that way?(six members would be 3 each; I asked Hammered about this spam recruitment thing, and she kinda gave away that [and the day message kinda gives away that there were six spammers]

If you must know, I was drafted with Chaucer and Coolguy, so says my pm(recipient box thing).
Wow, to think, I have to go away for a bit and already the votes are almost done (typed up part of it about 2 hours ago and then had to leave)
So:
Vote: ElMikkino
So the same invention could work and then not work? (As was said, it might break after use)

Hammered
10-13-2007, 09:28 AM
And so it was that everyone became annoyed with ElMikkino and asked the Admin to ban him. The Admin decided to let Spamumu do the honors, since he had enjoyed getting rid of Hammer Sideways so much on the previous day, and with a cheerful "Alakazam", ElMikkino was banned from Spamumufia, except for a last gasp, if he so desires, to be posted any time during Day #3. A low wail rose up from the onlooking crowd.

Since this day went so quickly, two of the atmospheric spammers didn't even have time to read the topic yet, so they will not be punished for failing to post, but they will be given the opportunity to contribute their spam on Day #3, in lieu of two of the randomly chosen spammers.

Vote Summary:

ElMikkino: 12 (Coolguy, Regeneratorizer, Cheeselord, Mossysox, AtkinsSJ, Ryuininfinity, Connor S., Mr.Onion, Chaucer, Christian, diginova, drgamer)
Coolguy: 1 (ElMikkino)

You are the Atkins Dieter! You are a plain member of the spammers league with one exception. You have a brother among the townies, WackieWalrus, as played by (I hope you weren't expecting me to tell you). You may freely chat with your brother about anything but your role. He has not been told that you are a spammer.

Here is a complete list of your nefarious Spamming League, in order of succession:

... Did you really think I would actually include this here? ... :roll:


Your team wins when they comprise 50% of the playing field.

Have fun!


It is Night #2. Twenty-two players remain alive, please try to get your night action PMs in promptly, if you have them.

Players

AtkinsSJ
blackmyth
chaucer

Cheeselord
Christian
Connor S.

Coolguy
diginova

drgamer

happystickman

Julian
Justin

Maiden Japan 007

Mossysox

Mr.Onion
munkee

PlasmaCannonsRule

regeneratorizer
Ryuinfinity

Roland
WackieWatty
WesleyOut of Game
varkarrus, a.k.a. Kris, the Loony Tick - neutral Jester - bored to death on Night #0
Hammer Sideways, a.k.a. The Pretentious Artist - mafia Spammer - banned on Day #1
ducklegion, a.k.a. ArachnidGourd - townie inventor - bored to death on Night #1
ElMikkino, a.k.a.The Atkins Dieter - mafia sibling - banned on Day #2

Hammered
10-14-2007, 09:46 AM
A group of spammers trapped Regeneratorizer in his office. Regen panicked as they entered and quickly covered his ears. Two of them grabbed his arms while the other two took turns saying "Spam! Spam! Spam!" over and over until it was just too much for even Regen! He was gone.

"We need to clean up the evidence," exclaimed one of the spammers, as he started shoving some papers into the shredder.

"Wait! We might need those! Shut it off!" shouted another.

They did, but it was too late. The top of the only page that hadn't been completely destroyed read, "You are Sluggo," but the rest of the page was already shredded. The team decided they'd better make a quick getaway before everyone woke up.

You are Sluggo, (the remainder of this message was lost in the shredder).

Regeneratorizer gets a last gasp, as long as he posts it during the current day and it doesn't contain any information about his role.

The game is afoot again. It is Day #3. Twenty-one players remain alive, so it takes eleven votes to ban.

Players

AtkinsSJ
blackmyth
chaucer

Cheeselord
Christian
Connor S.

Coolguy
diginova

drgamer

happystickman

Julian
Justin

Maiden Japan 007

Mossysox

Mr.Onion
munkee

PlasmaCannonsRule

Ryuinfinity

Roland
WackieWatty
WesleyOut of Game
varkarrus, a.k.a. Kris, the Loony Tick - neutral Jester - bored to death on Night #0
Hammer Sideways, a.k.a. The Pretentious Artist - mafia Spammer - banned on Day #1
ducklegion, a.k.a. ArachnidGourd - townie inventor- bored to death on Night #1
ElMikkino, a.k.a.The Atkins Dieter - mafia sibling - banned on Day #2
Regeneratorizer, a.k.a. Sluggo - bored to death on Night #2

chaucer
10-14-2007, 10:03 AM
Well, based on that, there's probably a mafia spamitor (janitor).

Coolguy
10-14-2007, 10:13 AM
Or maybe it's some product of Regen's role. Roland said that he was going to post something important, so I'll wait for that before continuing with anything.

Anyways, time to look up Regen's posts to see why the Mafia killed him...

EDIT: Oh, yeah, who was EM's mason/sibling?

Hammered
10-14-2007, 10:16 AM
Somewhere, somebody is crying unconsolably.

happystickman
10-14-2007, 10:23 AM
Coolguy, I am/was EM sibling. I let you guys lynch him, becuase he didnt want me to vote HammerSideways with Coolguy, And I suspected him to be a spammer.

Mr.Onion
10-14-2007, 10:25 AM
My cabbage is taking a bath.

Coolguy
10-14-2007, 10:26 AM
Coolguy, I am/was EM sibling. I let you guys lynch him, becuase he didnt want me to vote HammerSideways with Coolguy, And I suspected him to be a spammer.

Did he say anything about any other people?

happystickman
10-14-2007, 10:28 AM
No, he didnt talk or say anything else about anyone else.

Coolguy
10-14-2007, 10:32 AM
No, he didnt talk or say anything else about anyone else.

Oh, well.

Also, because you were EM's sibling, you'll probably die tonight- If one Sibling is killed, then the other Sibling always dies at the end of the next day/phase.

Anyways, I couldn't find anything important about Regen, other than he was the first to vote EM (which doesn't mean much because he was proven evil anyways). How odd.

AtkinsSJ
10-14-2007, 10:32 AM
Yay! I'm around for the start of a day!

Note that Regen had an office. That must be relevant to part of his role. Maybe he's a cop? I don't know. It would explain why the spammers would want to shred his papers.

Anyway, we're doing quite well so far. 2 townies lost, to 2 spammers. Though, I suppose, the jester dying helps the mafia the same way that a townie kill does.

happystickman
10-14-2007, 10:35 AM
Oh, well.

Also, because you were EM's sibling, you'll probably die tonight- If one Sibling is killed, then the other Sibling always dies at the end of the next day/phase.

Anyways, I couldn't find anything important about Regen, other than he was the first to vote EM (which doesn't mean much because he was proven evil anyways). How odd.

Oh Crap! Thats Bad! Im a cop! Well, if a do die, these are the people I investigated and they are all townie- Roland, Mr.O, and Justin! Doctor! PROTECT ME! PLEASE!

CatWoman
10-14-2007, 10:35 AM
Well, the only person I have suspicions about at this point is ... Mossysox! She hasn't said a whole lot, but she did in fact include herself with the spammers (she said "us" in her post). Also, she has spammed a couple times. I know she could be an atmospheric spammer, but she did it on more than one day, and I don't know if the same person would be asked twice to be an atmospheric spammer.

I'm not voting yet ... I'll bide my time to see what others have to say. :confused:

CheeseLord
10-14-2007, 10:36 AM
I have a good idea what Regen's role might have been. However, if I am right, I am not allowed to directly tell anyone. So I will say once again, the devil is in the details.

happystickman
10-14-2007, 10:37 AM
spam Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam Spamity Spaaaam! Oh Atospheric Spam!

AtkinsSJ
10-14-2007, 10:40 AM
HSM, sibling death happens automatically, so I doubt the doctor would be able to help in any way.

Coolguy
10-14-2007, 10:40 AM
Oh Crap! Thats Bad! Im a cop! Well, if a do die, these are the people I investigated and they are all townie- Roland, Mr.O, Coolguy. and Justin! Doctor! PROTECT ME! PLEASE!

A doctor protection won't help- You die at the end of day, not during the night.

Roland's good? Hmm- He was my 3rd best choice for a Mafia. I'll have to go make new ones, then. (Probably including Connor and Mossy)

happystickman
10-14-2007, 10:43 AM
Ah Dang, Well, I suspect All the Lurkers, Hammered said she didnt want any lurkers, so they could be hiding Spammers

Coolguy
10-14-2007, 10:48 AM
You inspected Justin last night, which meant you actually tried to inspect me, because that's who I had switched with. Is that correct? :p

happystickman
10-14-2007, 10:49 AM
Yeah, I geuss

AtkinsSJ
10-14-2007, 10:50 AM
I think that spammers might not be lurkers, as they might have to post spam posts, or the atmospheric spammers would have no purpose. Just a thought. I'm not trying to imply anything.

happystickman
10-14-2007, 10:51 AM
Qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnmautospercicspamqwertyuio pasdfghjklzxcvbnmautospermicsapmmnbvcxzlkjhgfdspoi uytrewdhsghdkhag!!!!

Mr.Onion
10-14-2007, 10:52 AM
I don't follow. Why would the spammers have to be active for the atmospheric spammers to have a point?

WackieWatty
10-14-2007, 10:54 AM
hsm, you posted that you inspected 4 people - Roland; Mr.Onion; Coolguy and Justin. But we've only had 3 nights!?!

EDIT: No, sorry, that's what CG quoted you as!?!
hmmmm...

Hammered
10-14-2007, 10:54 AM
As I stated earlier, the atmospheric spammers, who are chosen randomly for every day period are the only ones who have to spam. There is, of course, no requirement for the actual spammers to post spam as that would give them away. However, a member of the spam team has the same chance of being selected as an atmospheric spammer as everyone else does. And, just for the record, people who have been removed from the game will never be selected as atmospheric spammers.

happystickman
10-14-2007, 10:57 AM
hsm, you posted that you inspected 4 people - Roland; Mr.Onion; Coolguy and Justin. But we've only had 3 nights!?!

EDIT: No, sorry, that's what CG quoted you as!?!
hmmmm...

I investigated Coolguy, but he switched to Justin.

Coolguy
10-14-2007, 10:58 AM
Now, for my new 3 greatest suspicions:

3) Connor S

As we all saw, he desperately tried to save Hammer Sideways and instead start a bandwagon against Munkee, and he tried to start a No Lynch when we had plenty of evidence in the topic. I find that pretty suspicious, but here's one important thing in his favor which makes him only #3 on my list...

2) Munkee

Connor S. seems like what I did in the last game. He goes on the tiniest suspicion of somebody. So, spare him! It's his first mafia game!

Elmikkino is trying to stop Connor from voting Munkee? EM gave away Hammer Sideways- He's probably done it again with Munkee. (And Connor would probably be good in this scenario)

1) WackieWatty

The person I'm most suspicious of. :p There's three big things against him- 1) The spammers have avoided nightkilling him, 2) He only came out of hiding to try and stop Hammer Sideways' lynch and make me look evil, and 3) He tried to make Roland the now-mostly-proven townie look suspicious on Day 1 (though I can't blame him for #3- Roland was acting insanely evil:p) I'll probably vote him, but I want to see what Roland's important post is about first...

blackmyth
10-14-2007, 11:14 AM
Notice: I won't be around (unless I get on a different computer at the library, or at school) for the next day or two, because this computer is being reformatted. :(

PS: Please don't modkill me, or replace me (for the other players, don't bandwagon on me for not being here), I will be back. :D

WackieWatty
10-14-2007, 11:14 AM
1) WackieWatty

The person I'm most suspicious of. :p There's three big things against him- 1) The spammers have avoided nightkilling him, 2) He only came out of hiding to try and stop Hammer Sideways' lynch and make me look evil, and 3) He tried to make Roland the now-mostly-proven townie look suspicious on Day 1 (though I can't blame him for #3- Roland was acting insanely evil:p) I'll probably vote him, but I want to see what Roland's important post is about first...
1. In case you hadn't noticed, there are plenty of people who are worth killing before me! One of them is you! So, please explain how come, even after you revealed your role, you are still alive. I know that they apparently targetted you on Night 1, but you can't seriously be able to swap every night!
2. I have hardly anything to post in this game. Basically, the topic is just full of spam and stupid accusations. I only post when I have something to say.
3. I didn't make Roland look suspicious. I was stating what I thought of his posts, after I annotated them. I'm surprised you're using that against me, as making Roland look evil would have made you look good!!

CG is 'a proved townie', but I'd watch out for him. The last game he tried to bandwagon againt me, he was a mafia!

happystickman
10-14-2007, 11:18 AM
Wackie... If I would be around that long I probolby would investigate you for that...

Mr.Onion
10-14-2007, 11:22 AM
Remember, you have two things: One more investigation, and a last gasp. :p

happystickman
10-14-2007, 11:23 AM
Wow, I do? Good! I though I die I the end of today... YES!

CatWoman
10-14-2007, 11:23 AM
Roland's good? Hmm- He was my 3rd best choice for a Mafia. I'll have to go make new ones, then. (Probably including Connor and Mossy)

You are assuming HSM is telling the truth ...

happystickman
10-14-2007, 11:25 AM
You will see tomarrow...

Coolguy
10-14-2007, 11:25 AM
1. In case you hadn't noticed, there are plenty of people who are worth killing before me! One of them is you!

Why didn't they kill you over Regeneratorizer, then? :p And they already tried to attack me.

So, please explain how come, even after you revealed your role, you are still alive. I know that they apparently targetted you on Night 1, but you can't seriously be able to swap every night!

If they attacked me, somebody with much less value would die instead- Possibly even one of their own! You're smart enough to know that.

I have 2 inspections on different nights backing up my role, and both of the inspectors are proven good.

I'm surprised you're using that against me, as making Roland look evil would have made you look good!!

Roland was just inspected as good (or at least Not Evil- He might still be a lyncher). I'll consider him a townie for now.

Mr.Onion
10-14-2007, 11:26 AM
Hold on, I'm not sure about that. Mafiascum says, IIRC, that the sibling kills himself the night after the other sibling dies.

Coolguy
10-14-2007, 11:27 AM
Hold on, I'm not sure about that. Mafiascum says, IIRC, that the sibling kills himself the night after the other sibling dies.

That mikeburnfire role list said the following day.

happystickman
10-14-2007, 11:28 AM
Yeah... I have 1 investigation and a last gasp to say the results!

Coolguy
10-14-2007, 11:29 AM
Yeah... I have 1 investigation and a last gasp to say the results!

That depends on the host, and I don't think Hammered will let you survive 3 phases after your sibling's death instead of 2.

happystickman
10-14-2007, 11:32 AM
I sure hope she will! This game could depend on it!

drgamer
10-14-2007, 11:39 AM
Well, it's day; shame we didn't get what that role did...
Let's let this day last a little longer than 'yesterday' (give the draftees time to read their pm)

ElMikkino
10-14-2007, 12:18 PM
Well, this is my last gasp. You all know now I was a Mafia Spammer now, and that my brother was HSM. So, the only thing I want to say is that I have suceeded, even though I have died. Well, on to Mafia Game #24! G'bye, and, uh...

This is Spam. This Spammy Spam. This is the Spammiest Spam To Ever Spam. Yay! Bye bye!

AtkinsSJ
10-14-2007, 12:33 PM
I'm quite satisfied that Wackie is a spammer. This post earlier, which first led me to suspect him, clinches the deal now.
Er.... I know it's a bit late now, as DL has used up his last gasp, but how did he inspect ElMikkino?
If he used one of his inventions, you all need to remember that sometimes they don't give perfect results.

Now, I'm suspicious of CG, as he jumped on top of ElMikkino as soon as DL posted against ElMikkino. CG says that 'he's a proved townie', but the proof isn't strong enough for me to agree with him.
I'm not going to vote ElMikkino, because there isn't enough evidence, and I'm not going to vote CG, becasue last game I did that, I got lynched off. :p
Trying to protect ElMikkino, and claiming CG is a spammer. Both of which I'm pretty sure are wrong. So...

VOTE: WackieWatty

regeneratorizer
10-14-2007, 12:47 PM
..Not being able to post anything about my role is tough, due to many theories about why I died. I am an odd choice, I have hardly been helpful this game, and even I don't know what my role does.

All I can say is my death may have been a random mafia choice, or may involve Wesley somehow..... Though I know not how......

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The thought experiment serves to illustrate the strangeness of quantum mechanics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics) and the mathematics necessary to describe quantum states. The idea of a particle existing in a superposition of possible states, while a fact of quantum mechanics, is a concept that does not easily scale to large systems (like cats), which are not indeterminably probabilistic in nature. Philosophically, these positions which emphasize either probability or determined outcomes are called (respectively) positivism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positivism) and determinism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism).


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Mossysox
10-14-2007, 01:06 PM
Christian, what do you mean, I haven't said a lot? I've written reams!:p

I said 'us' in my post yesterday, because I was one of the posters of spam on Day 1, and I was pointing out to people that three of the people on the list I'd drawn up wouldn't have been atmospheric posters (which would be a very bold thing for me to be doing if I was one of the genuine spammers). Regen said that one of those three was him, the other two have yet to be identified - though I still suspect the same two I suspected yesterday.
Hammered has repeated again that atmospheric spammers are chosen at random - and if it turns out that happystickman is telling the truth about his role and is indeed a townie, I can tell you that he's been chosen twice as well. He's spamming today, and he was on the list of recipients of my 'draftee' PM on Day 2. As were AtkinsSJ, Connor S., and Justin. There was only one other name on my Day 1 PM, so I'm going to have to hope that PCR will be nice enough to confirm that my name was in the recipient's box of his 'draftee' PM, if people are going to suspect me over it.
You'll notice, too, that I was the fourth person to vote to have EM banned, which would be very speedily defeatist of me, if I was a genuine spammer.

As for my own suspicions, well, I'm still not convinced about Drgamer. So I'd be very pleased to hear if Chaucer or Coolguy could confirm that Hammered told them that there would be six spammers in the game too. Because this just makes my nose twitch:



And I DID get two other recipients in the atmospheric spam recruitment thing in groups of three. Apparently that's the max Hammered could put them in. And if you were in a group of two... that's suspicious, as why would it be that way?(six members would be 3 each; I asked Hammered about this spam recruitment thing, and she kinda gave away that [and the day message kinda gives away that there were six spammers]

If you must know, I was drafted with Chaucer and Coolguy, so says my pm(recipient box thing).
Wow, to think, I have to go away for a bit and already the votes are almost done (typed up part of it about 2 hours ago and then had to leave)
So:
Vote: ElMikkino So the same invention could work and then not work? (As was said, it might break after use)

The first point, given the PMs received yesterday, simply isn't true. And if he has nothing to hide, why the explanation for being the last to vote EM? Following on top of at least two plays I've seen him make as a mafia, ('oh no! the host's made a mistake!' and 'luckily I got my Townie mistake over with early on in the game ;)'), I find it very suspicious. If people think there's enough evidence against WackieWatty without as inspection, I'd like to ask happystickman to inspect drgamer tonight, if he can.
I don't see how WW can be anything but a spammer. I explained why I suspected him yesterday, but just to be clear:- Although I found Coolguy very suspicious on Day 1, and it is odd that his role continues to protect him I cannot see how anyone can still think CG might be a spammer when he's not only passed two inspections but was the person who started the voting against Hammer Sideways on Day One and against ElMikkino on Day 2 unless they themselves are a spammer. I know I'm still fairly new at this game, but I can't think of any scenario where it would make sense for Coolguy to be a spammer, pass two inspections, and lead the lynching of two of his team-mates. If I'm misguided, somebody say so, please.

The one way I do disagree with Coolguy is over Munkee (and me, too, obviously, if he's still considering me as a suspect). I think he's got this completely the wrong way round. ElMikkino was defending Connor, not Munkee, surely?

As for voting, I'm going to wait till we've heard from Roland, too - assuming he has the time to post before heading off on his trip.

Coolguy
10-14-2007, 01:10 PM
DrG was the 2nd to vote Hammer Sideways- I'm not so sure that he's suspicious.

And EM's post was poorly worded- It was hard to tell whether he was addressing or protecting Connor. :p They're both on my suspicious list for a reason.

And I think I already deleted my atmospheric spam PM- I'll go check. But still, I don't think the atmospheric spam has much to do with anything. :p

EDIT: No, I didn't delete my PM- The other recipients besides me were Chaucer and DrG.

drgamer
10-14-2007, 01:16 PM
I had specifically asked Hammered about it. (The aforementioned possible mistake I was talking about [I had misread the rule, as apparently many others did])
Hammered said something to the effect of 'there is no reason for me to hide the names. If I could, I would have put all six of you on the same pm' (not exact wording, but the same effect)

And the cop can indeed inspect me, I have nothing to hide (unless you're the insane cop/always see people as guilty cop; then that IS a problem)

Why can't we all just be friends and get along (after we get rid of all of those nasty spammers 'o course)

CatWoman
10-14-2007, 01:20 PM
MS, I didn't mean you hadn't posted a lot of words, just not very many separate posts that I could find. But I only checked backwards 5 or 6 pages. ;) Anyway, a mafia spammer can be an atmospheric spammer, so I don't guess the spam really proves much at all.

Mossysox
10-14-2007, 01:20 PM
DrG was the 2nd to vote Hammer Sideways- I'm not so sure that he's suspicious.
...
EDIT: No, I didn't delete my PM- The other recipients besides me were Chaucer and DrG.
That's not what I asked you. I asked if Hammered told you that there were six spammers in the game, the way that Drgamer claims she told him.

And yes, I know he was the second person to vote (and unvote) for HS - that made me suspicious, because exactly following your vote could be a form of hiding.
Ah, you've posted while I'm typing this, DrG: well, if you specifically asked that's different. Suspicion withdrawn.

Hammered
10-14-2007, 01:38 PM
So nobody is benefiting or suffering in any way as a result for talking to me, I will explain how the atmospheric spamming works.

There are as many atmospheric spammers as there are actual spammers. At the beginning of the game, the spammers are bold since they are many, so they post 1-3 spams each. As their numbers dwindle, they become more reserved. Now they only post 1-2 spams each. Before the game is over, they may be down to only once each, depending on how well the townies do at sniffing out the real spammers.

Roland
10-14-2007, 02:30 PM
ERM, ISN'T IT OBVIOUS?

WACKIEWATTY IS A SPAMMER!

Firstly, he didn't vote either Hammer Sideways OR ElMikkino, hasn't been night-killed, and is now desperately going after Coolguy! Can't you see? VOTE: Wackiewatty is the choice for me!

Now, the people who didn't vote EITHER spammer are probably the ones you should keep an eye on. I am most sure that they won't ALL be from that group, but keep a watch on...

Julian
Justin (EDIT: Proven good! Whoops!)
Maiden Japan
PlasmaCannonsRule
Wackiewatty (already shared thoughts on him)

Now, to be honest, Connor.S doesn't look like a spammer to me. He looks just like, a, well, newbie to me. Doesn't mean he ISN'T a spammer, by any means, but his behaviour just doesn't strike me as spammer stuff.

P.S: I didn't vote ElMikkino because I couldn't get to my computer. Sorry about that!

P.P.S: Thanks for waiting for my post!

P.P.P.S: This post isn't very long because I didn't have much time to write it! This is pretty much all you need to know, though.

chaucer
10-14-2007, 02:32 PM
Roland is good, or a godfather. This is a game where we must all be clever, because it's hosted by a clever host, who can create clever twists. Cleverly.

Roland
10-14-2007, 02:36 PM
This is JUST what happened in Loony Mafia... :rolleyes:

CatWoman
10-14-2007, 02:38 PM
This breaks my heart, it really does. I feel like my very own son has gone bad! :shock: But I've just re-read everything since the start of the game, and my spreadsheet results say ...

Vote: WackieWatty

Sob. I hope I'm wrong! ** cries **

Coolguy
10-14-2007, 02:40 PM
Justin was inspected, Roland- He's good.

I thought your important post would be something really important, considering how much you stressed it, not just a last-gasp-I'm-leaving sort of thing. :p Oh, well. Anyways, I'll VOTE: WackieWatty, like I said I probably would earlier.

Roland
10-14-2007, 02:44 PM
Yeah, I know. As I said, I don't have much time. And I edited that post saying that Justin was proven good.

happystickman
10-14-2007, 02:46 PM
Well, this is my last day here, so ill Vote:WackieWatty! as well! Ill need s omeone to investigate if WW is going to down today.

Maiden Japan 007
10-14-2007, 02:49 PM
I was a little suspicious about wakkiewatty so
VOTE: WAKKIE WATTY

Roland
10-14-2007, 02:49 PM
Munkee?

EDIT: Ninja'd! Responding to HSM's post, by the way...

chaucer
10-14-2007, 02:51 PM
I guess, go ahead and Vote: WackieWatty

Connor S.
10-14-2007, 02:55 PM
From what I can see WW is very suspicious, for a couple of reasons, 1) He didn't vote for either spammer, which doesn't neccessarily mean hes a spammer, but it definetly doesn't exact;y prove him as a townie either... 2) I've read some previous mafia games, and I could see a pattern.. namely the fact that WW always gets night killed on night 1, but if he were a spammer, then he probably wouldn't be, and seeing as the spammers either tryed to kill coolguy ( with his bus driving ability) or Varkaruass, it seems kind of... meh. anyways, after that long run sentence, i'm going to ban: wackie watty.

Julian
10-14-2007, 02:56 PM
Hmmm.... There is good evidence against WW, but there also is evidence against Connor as well. I don't know who I should vte, but can a cop PLEASE inspect me tonight? There is probably more than one, so can ONE inspect me? Multiple if possible. ;) Anyway, I know I'm town. I can roleclaim, but I don't think it nessecary. If nobody inspects me, I will. ALthough nobody wil believe me, I'll try anyway.

Hammered
10-14-2007, 02:57 PM
Vote Summary:

WackieWatty: 8 (AtkinsSJ, Roland, Christian, Coolguy, happystickman, Maiden Japan 007, chaucer, Connor S.)

11 votes to ban

Connor S.
10-14-2007, 03:00 PM
julian, I think you should roleclaim, because you havent voted for either spammer, come to think of it, you havent voted all game... So it might be wise to reveal your role... for no reason... meh. actually, disregard, because everyone will randomly use this post as evedince against me later... so, yah.

P.S. Hasn't Elmikkino already been lynched Hammered? :p

Coolguy
10-14-2007, 03:03 PM
Not yet - Some more votes are needed.

Connor S.
10-14-2007, 03:07 PM
yes but we're trying to lynch WW here, Elmikkino was lynched yesteday... :p

WackieWatty
10-14-2007, 03:08 PM
Ummm... Well, it's too late to defend myself, plus I'm not very good at that sort of thing anyway, so I'll just say this.

When you all realise that I'm a good guy (once I'm dead), keep on eye on those who were keenest to vote for me. ie Roland, Coolguy, and AtkinsSJ.

Also, I'd just like to point out that it looks like none of you know my style of play. If you did, then you'd realise that, when mafia, I tend to not make myself noticed, and keep to the back of the crowd. I only ever go after CG when I'm townie. Remember what happened in Brilliant Idea Mafia, people?

Connor S.
10-14-2007, 03:11 PM
but thats just it, until now, you HAVE been keeping to the back of the croud, barely posting at all.