Magia Game #24: Mafia Mafia!

[Julian]

One day, everybody was sleeping, and they heard a gunshot from the town square. They went out, and found Julian lying there, quite dead.

You are the Host! Nothing hppens if you die. You are on your own side. You always win, for you are all powerful.

List of players:

1.CheeseLord
2.PlasmaCannonsRule
3.Maiden Japan 007
4.Roland
5.Connor S.
6.Wesley
7.ElMikkno
8.Chaucer
9.Mossysox
10.Licking Post
11.Christian
12.Ryuinfinity
13.SpaceManiac
14.Regeneratorizer


List of roles:

Townie
Townie
Cop
Doctor
Mafia Sibling
Townie
Mafia
Godfather
Townie Sibling
Townie
Townie
Skitzo
Cop Enabler
Doctor Enabler

It is day #1. Post away.

[Connor S.]

ok mafia, you know who you are, Lets all make it asier on ourselves and just give yourselves up! :p

[SpaceManiac]

What's a Skitzo?

[Connor S.]

go to http://mikeburnfire.sitesled.com/mscumB.swf and look under protaganistic.

EDIT: I ninja'd the host! :p *gets modkilled*

[Julian]

A skitzo is a role that each night, randomly inspects, protects or kills the person that the holder wants.

Also, can this be stickiefied?
Late edit: Darn! Ninja'd! And by a new play, no less! :P

[Licking Post]

Yay! My first Mafia game ever. I'd like to think I'm not a total newb, because I've watched a few Mafia games. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

[CatWoman]

This is only my second game, but ... I won last time! Townies rule! :) Right now it seems way too early to have any opinions about anything, but some of these same players were in the last game. So I'll be watching post habits and such.

[Licking Post]

That's strange... I don't seem to have gotten a list of who the Mafia are. Could you all please tell me if you're Mafia?

[Connor S.]

I dont think thats quite how the game works, :p

[Licking Post]

Worth a try, anyway. :twisted:

[CatWoman]

That's strange... I don't seem to have gotten a list of who the Mafia are. Could you all please tell me if you're Mafia?

Sounds to me like Licking Post is claiming to be a townie there. I'm not familiar with Licking Post's habits, but as I said before, I'll be watching. This could be true, or it could be a devious plot to make us think he's not mafia. :roll:

[regeneratorizer]

'ell, a 'ew 'afia 'ame 'as 'arted. 'ay!

[Ufo-Man]

can i jion?

[CheeseLord]

It's too late to join this game, but you can sign up for the next one.

A bit of a design flaw I see here is telling everyone that there is a pair of siblings. There is a townie who knows one of the mafia, and this townie will not be night killed because the mafia tend not to kill each other.

[Roland]

Thing to say #1: This game's balancing is... Interesting. The role list, for your convenience:

Townie
Townie
Cop
Doctor
Mafia Sibling
Townie
Mafia
Godfather
Townie Sibling
Townie
Townie
Skitzo
Cop Enabler
Doctor Enabler

There are three things which are glaringly obviously good for the town: 1) 3 mafia in a 14 person game! 2) Siblings - This is a huge flaw, and I'd like the siblings to role-claim NOW! However, against the town are the cop/doc enablers (for those that don't know, a Doc/Cop Enabler has to be alive for their respective power role to work! Oh, and Skitzo, whoever you are, target suspicious players - Whatever the outcome is, it's probably good or neutral: Inspecting is obviously good, killing (remember: target suspicious players!) has to be good otherwise there logically wouldn't be a vigilante role, and protecting will probably turn out neutral, but if that person is targeted, then great (it can't be detrimental because there aren't any other town killing roles to interfere with).

Thing to say #2: I have a feeling about Christian. This is just a gut feeling, pointing something out early, but she seems a little mafia-like to me...

This is only my second game, but ... I won last time! Townies rule! :) Right now it seems way too early to have any opinions about anything, but some of these same players were in the last game. So I'll be watching post habits and such.

This is nothing like what she said last game.

Sounds to me like Licking Post is claiming to be a townie there. I'm not familiar with Licking Post's habits, but as I said before, I'll be watching. This could be true, or it could be a devious plot to make us think he's not mafia. :roll:

This is suspicious, a little. Though I do sort of agree. It could have been a joke of LP's part, which only himself and his mafia-buddies find funny. Or it could have just been a plain joke. The cop should inspect either of these two. Hmmm. I'm starting to sound dumb now, so I'll stop.

[Mossysox]

There's not much to say yet, apart from 'hello', but that's not going to stop me howling over this:
'ell, a 'ew 'afia 'ame 'as 'arted. 'ay!
You mean, HS was infectious???:p
OK, this probably was just a joke; but bearing in mind that the last person who wrote with that impediment was a mafia, it's not a joke we can completely ignore. Might be an idea for the cop to add Regen's name to the inspection-list.

And Roland might have a point about Christian, but equally, he might be finding something suspicious that really isn't. Christian would sound different this game - she has a previous game to refer to this time, when she didn't last time. Which raises a sliver of suspicion in my mind about Roland...
Too early to say for either of them yet, though.

Is 'no lynch' an option today?

[Connor S.]

no lynch SHOULD be an option, the only reason it wasn't last game was because night had already passed, but there hasn't been a night this game. Although, there are advantages and disadvantages to a no lynch. The disadvatage, obviously, is that the mafia get a free night kill. The advantages ae the cops get an extra insoection, and the skitzo (MIGHT) gte lucky and target a mafia. Although, on the topic of the skitzo, if they DO target a townie, it might be DOUBLEY devastating (they might kill the townie) or it might stop the killings all together and give the cops a completely free inspection (because if they were REALLY REALLY LUCKY they might protect the person who gets targeted by the mafia.) So to sum it up about the skitzo, there will be VERY interesting results when night comes.

[Ryuinfinity]

Okay, that last post was *too* suspicious, VOTE: CONNOR.S

[Connor S.]

You know, your making VERY hasty decisions, Ryu, in fact, It ALMOST looks like a mafia trying to start a bandwagon on an innocent townie. ALMOST but ill hold my vote in case I make the same mistake you just did. After all, you COULD just be a misgioded townie, like I was last game. So yah.

Although if you don't unvote, I might change my mind about my above decision. so yah, kindly, wait until more evedince comes up. After all, there IS a no lynch option.

[ElMikkino]

I agree with Connor S. This is what I'm betting: The cop hasn't been able to get to his computer, so he can't inspect people, and then the Skitzo tries to target that same person that night, and ends up killing them accidentally.

[Connor S.]

Yes, it would be a very hard role to use properly. AND to Ryu: Thats all Ive been saying all along, in my supposed "suspicious" post. :p

[Licking Post]

Whoa! I'm amazed how easily you people find each other (and me!) suspicious. I can't see why acting like a townie makes me suspicious. Townies act like townies, too! But I'm not too worried, because nobody has voted me.

Anyway, I get the impression that voting no lynch the first day is generally a good idea. So, VOTE: No Lynch. If it's allowed. With nobody truly suspicious yet, I don't want to kill an innocent townie. You'll probably find me suspicious for this, too, but at least I'm doing the right thing and helping the town! I still win if the town wins, even if I die. Meh, perhaps I'm just being paranoid. Nobody would lynch me just for being the first to vote no lynch.

[CatWoman]

I have a feeling about Christian. This is just a gut feeling, pointing something out early, but she seems a little mafia-like to me... This is nothing like what she said last game.
What do you mean, this is nothing like what I said last game?? I said "Townies Rule" last game and in the beginning I said it was too early to tell anything. Check it out in the thread. This is exactly like what I said last time, except for "I'll be watching." If that's what you mean, I don't get it. How is that suspicious? :roll: What else can I do except wait until someone slips up?

EDIT: Vote: No Lynch.

[Connor S.]

meh, evryone else seems to be voting for it, and Day 1 is always the hardest... so vote: no lynch

Also- to Ryu, I understand its your first game, and your acting a lot like what I did last game, like a misgiuded townie, so I won't vote for you, but I urge you to unvote, lest we lose a townie. :p

[Julian]

VOTE COUNT:
No Lynch: 3(Licking Post, Christian, Connor)
Connor: 1(ryuinfinity)
7 Votes for the lynch. Or not, as the case may be.

[Hammered]

I don't like to interfere in games that I am not involved in, but there are already too many mistakes in this game for me to ignore one that is easily correctable.

There are 14 players. A majority would be 8, not 7, so it should be 8 votes to lynch!

[Connor S.]

Ok, Im still not going to vote Ryu, because im often wrong, but heres a few things I found strange. NOTE: do not vote him just on this! this is just my two cents! anyways, His very first post in the game was

Okay, that last post was *too* suspicous, VOTE: CONNOR S. First, WHA?!?! now, notice he gives NO evedince as to why, although this IS excusable because hes a new player. Now, for your convenience, Im going to quote this supposed "suspicous" post, and I'd like Ryu to tell me why he found it so strange.

no lynch SHOULD be an option, the only reason it wasn't last game was because night had already passed, but there hasn't been a night this game. Although, there are advantages and disadvantages to a no lynch. The disadvatage, obviously, is that the mafia get a free night kill. The advantages ae the cops get an extra insoection, and the skitzo (MIGHT) gte lucky and target a mafia. Although, on the topic of the skitzo, if they DO target a townie, it might be DOUBLEY devastating (they might kill the townie) or it might stop the killings all together and give the cops a completely free inspection (because if they were REALLY REALLY LUCKY they might protect the person who gets targeted by the mafia.) So to sum it up about the skitzo, there will be VERY interesting results when night comes.

All I can see that I said there was that we could legally "no lynch" and that the skitzo role is very random, and there for hard to use. Now because of the amount of new players in this game, A hard role is likely to end up among one of them, which could end in some interesting resulkts, I was just stating my opinion about a role. So this is pretty mafia like, as he simply voted me with no reason, but as he's a new player, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and hold my vote on him.

/longpost

[Roland]

NO! SIBLINGS, ROLE-CLAIM IMMEDIATELY! DON'T END TODAY WITHOUT THAT INFORMATION, PLEASE!

Meh.

Also, the Skitzo is a good role! Just target a suspicious person, and you're fine. I have already laid out the options of what would happen, and they're certainly not bad.

[Connor S.]

I agree. In the hands of an experienced player, or one that takes your advice, the skitzo can be helpful, but what im saying, is that there are so many new players in this game, a new player with the role might use it wrongly, resulting in very strange results, and now some random person has started a bandwagon (or tried to) on me for saying that. meh.

[CatWoman]

Connor, this is not Ryuinfinity's first game, he was in the last one.

Ryuinfinity, I didn't find Connor's post suspicious, just a little confusing.

Roland, I don't understand much about siblings except that one dies soon after the other. Why do you want them to role claim? :???:

[Connor S.]

Because siblings know who their sibling is, and that their a mafia. (if this is the case) but they dont want to give them up, because if their sibling is lynched, then they will die soon after.

Also- sorry my post was confusing, I need to start organizing them into paragraphs. too lazy. meh. Thats a 13 year old for you.

EDIT: Ryu, could you please tell me what you found suspicous about my post? no one else seems to think it is, so maybe its just something you saw, and I can explain it. I can be a little bit confusing at times.

[Roland]

Ryuinfinty is still on the forum, but is still not explaining the vote yet. Last game he just jumped on bandwagons; He didn't vote anybody out of the blue (he was a townie).

All we play now is the waiting game...
Waiting, and waiting, for the Siblings to role-claim!

[Connor S.]

yes, he IS online. also- he hasn't been jumping on bandwagons, hes been STARTING them, and with no evedince I might add.

Meh, Im getting very close to voting him unless he answers my question... but not yet. I dont want to end the day.

oh and the sibling townie- PLEASE role claim! there are only three mafia, so if you role claim, and tell us who your brother is, we can lynch them, and get a free mafia kill! only two left! I know you'll die, but remember a dead townie still wins if the towns win! so youll be doing your part to helping the town!

[CatWoman]

Waiting, and waiting, for the Siblings to role-claim!

Please explain why! I saw Connor's answer but I don't get it. Does this mean you want to kill them, or NOT kill them? And what would be the benefit to the town (or mafia)? I am confused and couldn't find the answers when I looked up the roles.

EDIT: I just saw Connor's new post, and that makes sense to me. Thanks.

[Mossysox]

As I understand it, if the townie sibling role-claims and tells us who their sibling is, we have two candidates for mafia, and it doesn't matter which one we lynch, because the other sibling will die tomorrow. And yes, that puts the town sibling out of the game, but as Connor says, they still win when the town wins.
[Ninja'd by an edit! Sorry.]
[Second edit, in case people were wondering: I mean it doesn't matter if the mafia sibling tries to confuse things by claiming to be the townie sibling.]

[Connor S.]

Ill try to explain it better. A pair of siblings, consists of one mafia member, and one pro town member. The town member knows his brother is a mafia member, howeevr, the town member still ussually DOESNT want to rat his brother out.

This is because when one dies, the other comits suicide the following night, so naturally, if the townie member were to give his brother up, (which would be very good to the town,) then he would die that night.

It also works the other way around. The mafia member typically does not want the other mafia to kill his brother, even though he needs to, because then the mafia member will die, and the mafias will loose a member.

It still wasnt very clear, but I hope it was better.

[regeneratorizer]

I see no harm in it, so I'll say it: I'm one of the siblings. The townie sibling, for what my word is worth.

I won't, however, say who my other sibling is. Maybe I'm just being selfish, but I don't want to die this early. Maybe later.


ATTENTION MAFIA! I have no idea who you are, and how you act, but just so you know, killing me would also kill one of your members. And my mafia sibling, I trust you know that claiming townie and saying that I am the mafia sibling wont work, either, for that will still kill you. I know its obvious, just letting it be known, so you dont do it!

EDIT: 'hat 're 'ou 'alking 'bout, 'onnor S.?

[Connor S.]

Well, I suppose that clears that up. We now know regon was just acting like HS as a joke! That was bugging me for ages. :p

[Roland]

I see no harm in it, so I'll say it: I'm one of the siblings. The townie sibling, for what my word is worth.

I won't, however, say who my other sibling is. Maybe I'm just being selfish, but I don't want to die this early. Maybe later.


ATTENTION MAFIA! I have no idea who you are, and how you act, but just so you know, killing me would also kill one of your members. And my mafia sibling, I trust you know that claiming townie and saying that I am the mafia sibling wont work, either, for that will still kill you. I know its obvious, just letting it be known, so you dont do it!

EDIT: 'hat 're 'ou 'alking 'bout, 'onnor S.?

This seems suspicious... Regen, please tell us who your sibling is, or that's a VERY suspect post! Connor.S, why are you buying it so easily? If he were truly townie, then he would KNOW a mafia! And the reason he doesn't wanna say it because... You don't want to die this early? This is somewhat believable, because remember how regen was so happy in Game #14 THAT HE SURVIVED A WHOLE GAME? WOOT? But it just doesn't do the situation justice. If you were a townie, you'd know a mafia. VOTE:regen, if not just to get him talking.

[Connor S.]

It does seem suspicous, bt you cant blame regen, can you roland? as he obviously doesnt want to die. Meh, I just wanted to put some of my say into the matter, but hey. It just doesnt eem mafia like to me.

[regeneratorizer]

Meh, thats one way of solving the problem, Roland, though it is a little hasty.

I won't explain what you won't understand. Vote me if you wish, but in the meantime, I gotta get ready for work!

[Mossysox]

And, to repeat myself, if we lynch Regen, we get a mafia, whether Regen is town or not. So, for the greater good of the town, Vote: Regen.

[Connor S.]

all I can say is, cop, inspect regen tonight to see if hes telling the truth about being a townie sibling. oh and for the friendly neibghorhood skitzo, please DON'T target regen, as he might be a townie. your talents are better used on someone more suspicous.

EDIT: AH! Mossy has jumped! oh well. nothing I can do to stop it, You are making sense, it IS logical and all, but anyways.. oh well. I wont try to stop you, as you have a reason behind this, but i wont vote for regen either.

[Roland]

Ho-Hum... Unvote. Back to waiting...

BLATANT EDIT: Actually, Mossy's right - REVOTE:Regen! Regardless of who we kill now, we're going to kill a mafia! We'd lose the same people whether we lynched the mafia or not!

[Connor S.]

I just realized, if you look at the title, it says "Magia Game #24: Mafia Mafia!" Note the g in the first mafia! meh. not exactly on topic, but I thought I'd point it out.

BLATANT EDIT 2: THE SEQUEL: this is actually on topic. :p anyways, Im really tempted to vote regen, but still, er... yes. I will. sorry regen, but its the best for the town! your helping belive it or not! vote: regen (also- to the host, can we get a vote count here?)

[Roland]

My second vote count ever:

Connor.S - 1 (Ryuinfinity)

Regen - 3 (Roland, Mossysox, Connor.S)

[Connor S.]

thanks. :p

hmmm... it seems Ryu is offline now. almost as if trying to avoid answering my question. Because he WAS online when I asked it. But it could be somehting on his end, its happend to me before! so yah. but I urge you to speak up once your back Ryu!

[Julian]

I don't like to interfere in games that I am not involved in, but there are already too many mistakes in this game for me to ignore one that is easily correctable.

There are 14 players. A majority would be 8, not 7, so it should be 8 votes to lynch!
Thanks. And what mistakes can you see? I can tell that posting the sibling thing was a mistake, but other than that?

VOte Count:
-------------

Connor.S - 1 (Ryuinfinity)

Regen - 3 (Roland, Mossysox, Connor.S)

8 to lynch.

Thanks to Roland for the count.

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

I'll Vote: Ryuinfinity, for commiting 3 horrible crimes;

1. Random voting.
2. Calling a townie suspicious for asking whether or not No Lynch is OK.
3. 75% chance of being mafia.

[regeneratorizer]

Bah! You people are just intent on ruining my day, arent you? Yes, you'll lose a mafia, but you'll also lose a townie! I DON'T WANNA DIE!

I didn't think saying I was a sibling would affect anything, so I went ahead and said it. I didn't know you would go and pull a dirty trick like that, though!

[CatWoman]

Roland, you're the one not making any sense. Why in the world would Regen say he was the sibling if he was mafia? That just doesn't make sense at all, because saying it will get him lynched either way. You asked the siblings to post to help the town, and Regen did so. Why does this make you think he's a mafia? This is confusing.

I notice Julian is no longer counting my No Lynch vote, so I guess I'll unvote for now. I personally think it would be better to vote off someone who appears more mafia-like, because it's doubtful that a mafia sibling (who will also die) would have any powers except knowing who his/her sibling was. Wouldn't it make more sense to go after someone more powerful and let Regen live? I have been wrong before, but I just think he's telling the truth.

That said, I will vote for Regen if it looks like things are going that way and the day will end, but I did that with Cheeselord in the last game and killed a townie, against my better judgment. :|

[Connor S.]

Bah! Rolands not saying Regens a mafia, hes saying that even if Regen is a town, we'll still kill a mafia tomorrow, because the mafia sibling will comit suicide. So either way, lynching regen will be good for the town, as it will egbt rid of one third of the mafia.

[CheeseLord]

I'm not going to vote Regen yet, mainly because it's always good to have another townie to discuss things with, and if things go badly we have a foolproof way of finding a mafia.

[Ryuinfinity]

It was confusing! I think it was meant to confuse the townies into not voting mafia! Oh yeah, VOTE: REGEN!
P.S all 3 of the "horrible crimes" I commited were in ONE POST! you can't lynch because of ONE POST! I don't wanna die!

[Connor S.]

Ok, because you've explained yourself Ill let it lie, but I agree with cheese lord, we shouldn't vote regen yet. YET.

[Ryuinfinity]

Maybe, bu it IS a guaranteed mafia kill!

[ElMikkino]

I have some reasons as to why Regen did not reveal the other sibling:

1. He has been told not to by the host.
2. He is a very weird player, who wins if his sibling is alive at the end of the game. Not very likely.
3. He's being secretive.
4. HE'S SCUM!!11!!!
5. He doesn't wanna die.

Still, these reasons are probably wrong, but I will VOTE: No Lynch until Regen tells us the other sibling, or if the other sibling tells us who he is. I at least want Regen to defend himself after my post.

[ElMikkino]

Maybe, bu it IS a guaranteed mafia kill!

This makes me very suspicious. I bet Ryu is the other sibling. Ryu seems more suspicious than Regen, so I will VOTE: Ryuinfinity. At least until he defends himself.

[CheeseLord]

I have some reasons as to why Regen did not reveal the other sibling:

1. He has been told not to by the host.
2. He is a very weird player, who wins if his sibling is alive at the end of the game. Not very likely.
3. He's being secretive.
4. HE'S SCUM!!11!!!
5. He doesn't wanna die.



I believe that 5 is true, but it's quite possible that 2 is true as well, and just named incorrectly in the role list (siblings instead of lovers).

[Licking Post]

Why is everybody so reluctant to VOTE: Regen? We're guaranteed to get a mafia! There would be no reason for a townie to role claim as a sibling if he weren't. How would that help the town? So either he must be a sibling, or he's mafia. Either way, we get a mafia!

Wait... He could be role claiming as a sibling because he wants to get lynched. Maybe he's a jester! Cop, please investigate Regen! In the meantime I think I'll just UNVOTE and VOTE: No lynch again.

[Mossysox]

CheeseLord, there are eleven townies in this game. If Regen is lynched, there will still be nine others for you to discuss things with (assuming you're a townie), whether Regen is the townie sibling or the mafia sibling. And if you are a townie, why would you want to delay getting rid of a mafia?

How often does the town have a guaranteed mafia kill on Day 1?

Christian, I thought Roland was being a bit over-eager to suspect you earlier today, but now I think the cop should inspect you, if you're still alive at the end of Day 2. And here's why:
I think it would be better to vote off someone who appears more mafia-like, because it's doubtful that a mafia sibling (who will also die) would have any powers except knowing who his/her sibling was. Wouldn't it make more sense to go after someone more powerful and let Regen live?
Why would a townie think an ordinary mafia wasn't worth killing on Day 1? It's what I would expect the mafia sibling to be saying, but not a townie.

Regen may well be the townie sibling, but even if he is, lynching Regen kills a mafia. That's one third of the bad guys taken care of.

ElMikkino, nobody arguing in favour of lynching Regen in order to kill a mafia is likely to be a mafia themselves. So moving from 'no lynch' to 'lynch Ryuinfinity' on the strength of the evidence currently available makes you seem very suspicious.

[Ryuinfinity]

Yep! P.S if I was the other sibling why would I want to get killed!

[CatWoman]

Why would a townie think an ordinary mafia wasn't worth killing on Day 1? It's what I would expect the mafia sibling to be saying, but not a townie.I thought I explained it pretty well, but maybe not. I don't think an ordinary mafia isn't worth killing ... I DO think taking a townie down too is not so good. I thought the other mafia would be better targets. However, as I've said before, I'm fairly new at this, so maybe I just don't understand it very well.

EDIT: Regen, I know you said you didn't want to name your sibling, but could you please tell these people it's not me???

[CheeseLord]

Wait... He could be role claiming as a sibling because he wants to get lynched. Maybe he's a jester! Cop, please investigate Regen!
The roles have already been posted. There is no jester. And the reason I want to keep Regen around is because he's one of the more experienced players in this game, and with a large number of new players, he's pretty valuable.

[SpaceManiac]

This is my first game and I'm going to take it easy. VOTE: NO LYNCH.

[ElMikkino]

Maybe, bu it IS a guaranteed mafia kill!

OH, sorry, I didn't understand this post. I thought he was saying Regen was mafia, guaranteed, but now I remember the sibling thing! Sorry! Well, might as well jump on the bandwagon...we get a mafia kill anyway! VOTE: Regen!

[Ryuinfinity]

Vote count please!

[Licking Post]

The roles have already been posted. There is no jester. And the reason I want to keep Regen around is because he's one of the more experienced players in this game, and with a large number of new players, he's pretty valuable.
Well, thanx for making me look stupid! ;) Should have looked. Oh, well. If the roles hadn't been posted I'd be feeling pretty smart right now. So I guess there's no reason not to VOTE: Regen. Sorry about killing you, Regen, but we get a mafia, too! I can't resist such a wonderful opportunity.

[SpaceManiac]

You know, sure. Whatever.
UNVOTE: No lynch
VOTE: regen

EDIT: I'm officialy a Dumb Person! Yays!!!

[Licking Post]

Okay, here's the vote count as far as I can tell:

Ryuinfinity - 1 (PlasmaCannonsRule)

Regen - 7 (Roland, Mossysox, Connor.S, Ryuinfinity, ElMikkino, Licking Post, SpaceManiac)

8 to lynch.

I apologize for any mistakes.

BTW, ElMikkino seems to be vote-hopping. He changed his vote several times. A little suspicious, I think.

[CatWoman]

I will go ahead and Vote: Regen. I just looked through the votes and what I came up with matches Licking Post's info, so this makes 8 votes to lynch Regen. It's kind of sad to knock off an experienced townie so soon. :| He must be a townie, otherwise his post that he was a sibling was really stupid.

[Wesley]

I know it's late, but Vote: Regen. I was making a huge post explaining who I was suspicious of, and why, but then I got sidetracked, and before I knew it, it was two hours later. I'll wait to post my suspicions, as night will be starting shortly.

[Connor S.]

I wonder why night hasn't started? meh, just to hurry the host along, I'll vote: regen even thougfh hes already dead. Maybe the host doesn't count 8 votes. Meh. this should bring the darkness! And a garunteed mafia kill no less. :p

[ElMikkino]

I'm sorry that I'm seeming very suspicious. It's just that my opions change rather quickly. Just my personality.

[Licking Post]

Silence! No talking allowed after the final vote has been cast. Or am I mistaken?

[Connor S.]

I know the feeling. :p anyways, a note before night comes, cops, inspect christian, PCR, just because hes been lurking, and i dont know, whoever else I guess, and the skitzo, just target whoever is most supicious. worst case senarios is that that person is just a suspicous townie, and we got rid of a red herring. meh. anyways.

[Licking Post]

ElMikkino, turn on Invisible mode! It's very necessary for Mafia games, so people can't tell if you're PMing. If they catch you PMing, they'll assume you've got a PMing role, like the mafia! You don't want that, do you?

[Connor S.]

AGH! when will night come? Come on! your a very lazy or dead host. whichever may be the case. :p

[CatWoman]

Julian, you're doing it again. Why don't you either take care of your hosting responsibilities or let us move on to the next mafia game? This is only the first day and already things are dragging.

[Jamul]

Everybody needs to relax! Most of you complaining are new to mafia, and have only played in Hammered's game, so please be aware that Hammered's being on the forum 92 hours a day is abnormal. You can't expect the host to be around right when you finish casting your votes. He may or may not return tonight, and if not, he is sure to handle it tomorrow. Nothing improper (or uncommon!) about that at all.

[Julian]

I had some trouble at home today. It's not going to happen again, but anyway. It's night. Regen has dissapeared in a puff of green smoke.

You are the townie sibling. If you die, <blanked out> dies. You win when all the mafia are dead.


List of players:

1.CheeseLord
2.PlasmaCannonsRule
3.Maiden Japan 007
4.Roland
5.Connor S.
6.Wesley
7.ElMikkno
8.Chaucer
9.Mossysox
10.Licking Post
11.Christian
12.Ryuinfinity
13.SpaceManiac
14.Regeneratorizer - puffed away day #1 - Townie Sibling

Get your night PMS in!

[regeneratorizer]

Bah! Foolish townies!

Roland, you ask me to do something and I do; and this is how I am rewarded?? Thanks alot, traitor! I know Hammered said not to support the opposite team, but I just can't resist this time: Mafia FTW! Win the game for me!

[Ryuinfinity]

It's for the greater good of the town. Besides, you will still probably win, the mafia is off to a bad start!

[Connor S.]

I know Im breaking my own rule, but SHHH its night!

[Julian]

Cheeselord has died.

You are a plian old vanilla townie.

Players:

1.CheeseLord - Mafia'd on Night #1
2.PlasmaCannonsRule
3.Maiden Japan 007
4.Roland
5.Connor S.
6.Wesley
7.ElMikkno
8.Chaucer
9.Mossysox
10.Licking Post
11.Christian
12.Ryuinfinity
13.SpaceManiac
14.Regeneratorizer - puffed away day #1 - Townie Sibling


7 votes for the lynch.

[Connor S.]

Interesting... Well, he didnt post much anyways, and he wasnt a power role, so it could have been a lot worse. Anyhow, lets get cracken! if we play our cards right, we might kill two mafia today! (one from a lynch, and one from the sibling thing) That would leave just one mafia!

[Roland]

Hmmm. That's funny. CheeseLord was the most suspicious for me, trying to back off of the regen lynch. Meh. Going to look over previous evidence...

EDIT: There isn't very much. PCR's a teeny bit suspect, Ryu's first post was awfully suspicious (though as he astutely pointed out: It was only one post!), ElMikkino's vote-hopping is also suspicious. So, meh.

However, I was thinking... Since this is an open game (all role names are listed), don't you think we could mass-claim? You know, where we ALL claim our roles? That would narrow the suspect list down a LOT! Of course, it means the mafia could night kill us as well. Hmmm. What do you think?

[Julian]

Whoops, forgot to say that Cheeselord gets a last gasp.

[Roland]

Oh, and I just remembered this question, because someone asked this the last game you hosted, does the Godfather show up innocent on an inspection?

[CheeseLord]

I wonder why I was chosen... Anyway, one mafia will die tonight for certain, maybe more with the lynch and the skitzo. I still think it was a bad idea to kill off Regen early, but I suppose I'm alone in that sense. I think the best idea at this point would probably be a mass role claim, and seeing as both of the surviving mafia will probably claim to be vanilla townies, you can work from a list of six. Good luck, and remember, Cheese Is Good.

[Connor S.]

hmmmm... seeing as your the most experienced player here roland, all of the newbs are following you, BUT, you obviously wqouldn't point out the flaws in yourself.. I'm not saying your mafia, But Im looking at how suspicous EVERYONE is, not just everyone but you, so dont think im accusing you, but I want to leave possibilities open. Anyways, the evedince:

Your constantly eager for everyone to role claim, whether it be the siblings, or everyone, (again, im not accusing you, but...) Perhaps, your mafia trying to figure out who to kill? like the cops and such? because to me, thats what it SORT OF seems like. Meh. Just trying to leave all possibilities open After all, just because your good at mafia, doesnt garuntee you as a townie.

[Julian]

The godfather always shows up innocent - it's an actual role.

[Roland]

hmmmm... seeing as your the most experienced player here roland, all of the newbs are following you, BUT, you obviously wqouldn't point out the flaws in yourself.. I'm not saying your mafia, But Im looking at how suspicous EVERYONE is, not just everyone but you, so dont think im accusing you, but I want to leave possibilities open. Anyways, the evedince:

Your constantly eager for everyone to role claim, whether it be the siblings, or everyone, (again, im not accusing you, but...) Perhaps, your mafia trying to figure out who to kill? like the cops and such? because to me, thats what it SORT OF seems like. Meh. Just trying to leave all possibilities open After all, just because your good at mafia, doesnt garuntee you as a townie.

Do you not see the logic behind my actions? A mass claim is far worth it, IMO, and getting the siblings to role-claim gets us a mafia! I don't know if we should mass-claim yet... Maybe when I get back from school. Meh, you can if you want.

[Ryuinfinity]

I'm the cop!

[Mossysox]

Hmm, and that fact [EDIT: the godfather role] itself almost argues in favour of the mass role-claim idea. I'm a little bit hesitant, because it's fairly obvious that we'll lose the cop's ability to inspect on Night 2 or 3 at the latest if we go down that road. I'll go along with this, if it's what everybody wants to do, but I don't think it would hurt to get another night's inspection in beforehand.

Connor, although it's true that Roland isn't 100% proven Town (given that he's still alive...), his behaviour so far has 'townie' written all over it. It's true a mafia might have gone after the siblings in order to make themselves look like a townie, but that would be a very odd move on Day 1 in a fourteen player game that only has only three mafia in it. I would have thought the mafia would be far more likely to hope that nobody else would go after the siblings - and then to try to block the lynch when they did. And it's precisely this sort of comment that makes me keen to keep our cop's inspection ability for another night or so.

I'd really like to hear what Wesley was going to tell us about his suspicions yesterday before going much further. Speaking of which: Regen, if you want to blame anybody for that, you should be blaming me, not Roland.

EDIT: double ninja'd! I would still have preferred to discuss this, Ryu!

[Ryuinfinity]

What? Discuss what? I'm online!

[Connor S.]

You shouldnt have role claimed until we talked things over. Now the mafia will most liekly kill oyu.

[Mossysox]

Not if the doctor protects him, they won't. But we hadn't all agreed to role-claim - and I still want people to think about it before proceeding.

[Ryuinfinity]

Sorry!

[Connor S.]

Meh, well deal with it, but this is what I was talking about when I said all of the newbs followed roland. (Who, your right, is most likely townie, but still. We ARE individuals people!)

/mytwocents

[Wesley]

With all the new players, it's a little hard to sort out what is suspicious, and what is misunderstood. Here are my suspicions... NOTE: Talking about what I think about everyone would take forever, and I still have a ton of BHE stuff to download, so I'm just going to post who I think is suspicious.

Connor S. - I thought his post about the skitzo was minimally suspicious, but what I found really strange was how he reacted when he was voted. There were just too many capital letters in that post to be ignored. Also, did he threat to vote Ryu unless he unvoted? That's very strange.

Ruinfinity - His first post in the entire game was a vote, with little words no less. He later explained why he voted Connor, but still, he was really eager to vote someone at the start.

ElMikkino - Instead of voting Regen, which would have won us a mafia ether way, he voted no lynch, which would give the mafia a free kill, which would have no point as we already had something to talk about. Minutes later, he voted Ryu, claiming that he was more suspicious then Regen, while voting Regen had nothing to do with suspicion. He later voted Regen, claiming to have misunderstood Ryu. I don't know what to think of this, but he sure is voting a lot...

SpaceManiac - He voted No Lynch, instead of getting a mafia. (Well, we lynched a townie, but you get the point) It's his first game though, and he might have just wanted to not make a wrong move. He later voted Regen. Not sure about him.

That's it for now. As for all the other players, I've ether:

A. Found them suspicious, but found evidence which supports why they were acting that way.

or

B. Found them neutral so far, and while I don't think they're bad, I'm not sure if they're good...

[CatWoman]

Having read everyone's posts, I am quite confident about one thing. I have no idea! :shock: The only thing that struck me was El Mikkino's vote hopping (I think he was the one). And if everyone role claims, how can we tell who's telling the truth?

[Ryuinfinity]

Role claims are just that, claims! I mean, I'm probably not actually the cop!

[ElMikkino]

Meh, I'm just a plain vanilla townie. Nobody really seems suspicious right now. Oh, and the reason why I was vote-hopping: I decided to not vote Ryu, but then one second after I posted, I decided that I should, so I edited. But, I then realised what his post actually meant, and, since everyone was jumping on the bandwagon, I voted Regen. That's why.

EDIT: I voted No Lynch, cause when I first voted, the wagon wasn't overpowering yet, and I wanted to end the day so that nobody got killed. And also, to sum up in one word what I was when I voted Ryu: confused. I was just confused, as I kinda am now, because I was vote-hopping, and everybody's acting like that's a very bad thing. So, sorry peoples!

[Connor S.]

Huh... I guess Im being accused just because I had cpas in my posts.. Meh, everyones different. I perosnally, just like to EMPHASIZE certain words, its natural fir me. and of course, now im being accused for it. oh well, if it will make you think im a townie, i promise never to post in all caps again. :p

[Licking Post]

Promising not to post in caps definitely won't change our opinions about you, for better or for worse. At least not if we're sensible. Neither should posting in caps make you seem suspicious.

[Wesley]

Connor S. - I thought his post about the skitzo was minimally suspicious, but what I found really strange was how he reacted when he was voted. There were just too many capital letters in that post to be ignored. Also, did he threat to vote Ryu unless he unvoted? That's very strange.

I really didn't think anyone would say that was why I was suspicious of him. I'm suspicious of him because he overreacted a little when he was voted, not because he was using capitals.

[Connor S.]

I hardly over acted. I never voted ryu back, I always reserved judgement... Its just how I talk. Its NOT over reacting.

[Roland]

RYUINFINITY IS A MAFIA! HE IS A LIAR! I AM THE COP!

(oh no, I'm posting all in capitals ;))

And yes, Ryu is a liar - By the way, I know Christian to be good, unless she's the godfather. VOTE:Ryuinfinity!

And people, we need more claims! Bring on the the clams! Er, I mean 'claims'! Christian, if we get people to role-claim power roles, (although exposing them for the night kill), proves them to be innocent - If they were lying, the real role would have said something! Ryuinfinity's case is a classic example of what pretty much never happens, but it proves a mafia - Lying people are scum, no questions asked!

[Roland]

Sorry for the double-post, but Whoever the Skitzo is, PLEASE target Wesley tonight! Why? Because of post #101! While that may seem crazy, if you look back at history, it's not. I don't think anybody here is experienced enough to know what I'm talking about, but you can go look back at previous mafia games yourself if you don't believe me- When Wesley posts large posts, it's a sign of him being mafia. Look at last game. And then, compare that to another game when he was a townie. Meh. 'Tis just a gut feeling, I 'spose. But I still think the Skitzo should target him.

With all the new players, it's a little hard to sort out what is suspicious, and what is misunderstood. Here are my suspicions... NOTE: Talking about what I think about everyone would take forever, and I still have a ton of BHE stuff to download, so I'm just going to post who I think is suspicious.

Connor S. - I thought his post about the skitzo was minimally suspicious, but what I found really strange was how he reacted when he was voted. There were just too many capital letters in that post to be ignored. Also, did he threat to vote Ryu unless he unvoted? That's very strange.

Ruinfinity - His first post in the entire game was a vote, with little words no less. He later explained why he voted Connor, but still, he was really eager to vote someone at the start.

ElMikkino - Instead of voting Regen, which would have won us a mafia ether way, he voted no lynch, which would give the mafia a free kill, which would have no point as we already had something to talk about. Minutes later, he voted Ryu, claiming that he was more suspicious then Regen, while voting Regen had nothing to do with suspicion. He later voted Regen, claiming to have misunderstood Ryu. I don't know what to think of this, but he sure is voting a lot...

SpaceManiac - He voted No Lynch, instead of getting a mafia. (Well, we lynched a townie, but you get the point) It's his first game though, and he might have just wanted to not make a wrong move. He later voted Regen. Not sure about him.

That's it for now. As for all the other players, I've ether:

A. Found them suspicious, but found evidence which supports why they were acting that way.

or

B. Found them neutral so far, and while I don't think they're bad, I'm not sure if they're good...

Even if it wasn't for Wesley's behavioural patterns, it's still a suspicious post - It's casting suspicion around several people, some of which I don't think are suspicious at all (Like SpaceManiac? What exactly did he do wrong?).

Oh, and DOCTOR: PLEASE PROTECT ME!

Now, off to go play Sleepless Hollow!

[Connor S.]

I defenitly agree that christian is innocent. and because rolands evedince is consistant with mine, (i beleive very firmly that christian is innocent also) I will also belive him anout ryu. I also have other reasons to believe that Ryu is scum. If you need evedince, just look at his first post! And Wes, He posted in caps there too. Vote: Ryuinfinity

[Ryuinfinity]

Moopie! Are you going to react to some post saying I'm the cop by some fake by LYNCHING ME? And by the way Roland, when you're proven a plain vannila townie, you will be sorry! P.S logical hole! How can you have investigated me and Cristian in one night? Huh?

[ElMikkino]

Maybe Ryu or Roland is the Skitzo....

[SpaceManiac]

I think I'm going to believe Roland. Vote: Ryu

[Licking Post]

I'm not convinced Ryu is scum. He voted Regen when there were still only four votes on him, before he was sure to die, and then argued that it was a good idea because we would get a mafia. I don't think scum would vote to kill themselves unless they knew it was inevitable, much less give reasons why we should kill a mafia. And I really don't get why Roland's role-claim has to be necessarily true and Ryu's false. Why does everybody seem convinced that Ryu is a liar just because Roland says so? Couldn't Roland be the liar? I'm not saying that he is, just that he could be. I think everybody is being a bit hasty voting for Ryu.

[Licking Post]

Sorry for the double post, but I just noticed this:
Role claims are just that, claims! I mean, I'm probably not actually the cop!
Ryu just said he's probably not the cop! What's with that? If he were really the cop, why would he say he's probably not? I don't get it. Maybe he is a little suspicious. I think he's probably lying, and lying makes him SCUM! VOTE: Ryuinfinity.

Now you're all going to find me suspicious for defending Ryu then immediately voting for him. I really hadn't noticed that post before!

[CatWoman]

How can you have investigated me and Cristian in one night? Huh?He didn't say he inspected us both. He knows you're not the cop because HE is. At least that's the way I understood it.
Vote: Ryuinfinity

[Mossysox]

Whatever is going on here is very odd. Obviously, somebody is lying, and that somebody is most likely to be Ryuinfinity, given his 'maybe I'm just pretending' post and the tiny matter that Roland would have to be eaten alive by aliens to pull this stunt. But I'm not voting for Ryuinfinity until I've seen some indication as to who Regen's sibling is. I don't want to waste a lynch on a dead man.

[Connor S.]

I belive rolands claim, manily because I beleve his inspection. I persoanlly belive christian to be 100% Townie.. for reasosns of my own, and therefor, I see no reason not to trust roland, as his inspection matches with my evedince... anyways...

/suspicous post

[Julian]

Votes:
Ryuinfinity 5(PCR, Connor, SpaceManiac, Christian, Licking Post)
7 to lynch.

[Ryuinfinity]

I meant I'm just a plain vannila, which I am, that cop thing was a joke! Anyway, just let the "real" cop investigate me at night and find out I'm a townie, THEN lynch me for no reason. VOTE: NO LYNCH

[Roland]

ARGH! This is too much!

Why would you lie about your role if you're a townie? Why? I repeat again: I am the one and only cop and I investigated Christian last night and found her innocence.

BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!! WHY WOULD YOU ROLE-CLAIM A ROLE THAT YOU AREN'T IF YOU'RE A TONWIE?! WHY?!?! Only a mafia would do that!

And, of course, you voted Connor for no reason. So my vote stands.

[Julian]

No lynch is only allowed on the first day.

[Ryuinfinity]

Sorry. But honestly, it was Halloween, I was KIDDING! You honestly will be sorry if you lynch me.

[Roland]

Moopie! Are you going to react to some post saying I'm the cop by some fake by LYNCHING ME? And by the way Roland, when you're proven a plain vannila townie, you will be sorry! P.S logical hole! How can you have investigated me and Cristian in one night? Huh?

No! When I'm proven to be the cop, you'll... Well, I don't know, really. And I never said I investigated you! I know you to be mafia because you claimed to be the one and only cop when I am the one and only cop! Somebody lying to be a different role is mafia!

[Ryuinfinity]

Yes. I lied, I am not the cop. You got me. BUT I AM NOT MAFIA. REALLY!

[Roland]

Hmmm. Unvote. I will be sure to investigate you tonight.

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

Isn't Ryu's guilt obvious? ONLY MAFIA LIE ABOUT THEIR ROLES! And his excuses are ridiculous! "It was Halloween!" "...some fake" And, he said that Regen was a guarenteed "Mafia lynch". He was town! RYU IS MAFIA! So, everyone, Vote: Ryuinfinity!

P.S: I only have, like, an hour to post on weekdays. So, I don't have much time.

[Ryuinfinity]

Great, lynch me. But ALL 3 of your points are wrong. I am not the cop, and Roland is, got that? Regen was A SIBLING, when he dies, the mafia dies.

[Wesley]

Sorry for the double-post, but Whoever the Skitzo is, PLEASE target Wesley tonight! Why? Because of post #101! While that may seem crazy, if you look back at history, it's not. I don't think anybody here is experienced enough to know what I'm talking about, but you can go look back at previous mafia games yourself if you don't believe me- When Wesley posts large posts, it's a sign of him being mafia. Look at last game. And then, compare that to another game when he was a townie. Meh. 'Tis just a gut feeling, I 'spose. But I still think the Skitzo should target him.



Even if it wasn't for Wesley's behavioural patterns, it's still a suspicious post - It's casting suspicion around several people, some of which I don't think are suspicious at all (Like SpaceManiac? What exactly did he do wrong?).

Oh, and DOCTOR: PLEASE PROTECT ME!

Now, off to go play Sleepless Hollow!


I can understand your reasoning, but that means nothing. Each game is a different circumstance, which calls for different tactics, so I might have to post different sized posts. While there's nothing I can really say in my defense (Well, I can, but...), there's also little reasoning behind you telling the skitzo to target me. (Unless you meant for inspections, then go ahead.)
And as for me casting around suspicions, I said in that very post, I was talking about who I thought was suspicious.

[Connor S.]

now Wes is going to get you ryu, you posted in caps! :p But I to, will unvote, as we will get a mafia today anyways, (with the sibling) Plus it will give the *cough* roland* cough* Power roles a chance to get more info. Though roland is likely to die tonight, he can still post his inspection in his gasp.

[ElMikkino]

VOTE:Ryuinfinity for reasons mentioned by the other posters.

Sorry, I didn't read this page. Unvote.

[CatWoman]

I am now totally confused. Mossysox and Connor S. both mentioned the mafia sibling -- with that, Mossy declined to vote and Connor unvoted. I know the mafia sibling will die, but not until this day ends ... right? I mean, doesn't he/she commit suicide at night? If people aren't going to vote, or everyone unvotes, then this day will not end. Anyway, I will unvote too. I don't really think Roland's reasoning is necessarily right about Ryu's role claim -- anyone can lie, although that was a pretty silly lie. I'm just wondering how this day is going to end. :confused: Nobody looks very suspicious to me.

[Licking Post]

It could be possible that Ryu is the other sibling and is trying to get us to lynch him so we'll only get one mafia tonight instead of two. But then why would he be trying to get us not to lynch him? Meh, I don't know. I still think he's really suspicious with his lying, so I won't unvote.

[Connor S.]

After reading christians post, I agree. Day will continue forever unless we vote, and well, my whole reason of unvoting was to give the power roles some for inspections sooner, so meh. I have warped logic.

revote-Ryuinfinity

[Mossysox]

The reason I declined to vote was that Ryuinfinity's behaviour was so outrageous that I thought we should consider the possibility, however slim, that he might be the mafia sibling, trying to waste our lynch with a crazy role-claim. This doesn't sit brilliantly next to his having been the fourth person to vote for Regen, but he's acting so wildly, who can tell?
On the whole, though, I think Ryu is probably a townie, which is why I don't want to rush to lynch him - even if he probably does deserve it for messing about.

[Ryuinfinity]

Yes yes I was screwing around. Thank you for not lynching me and allowing me to have another chance.

[Connor S.]

Bah. All evedince points to you being mafia. And Ryu, how bout you target Wes tonight if hes stil alive. After All, if your a cop, you could be useful. and Roland, you target Wes also- that way, We can figure out whos the real mafia, and whos the real cop.

[Ryuinfinity]

I'm not a cop! And Roland, check me.

[Wesley]

If I have to be inspected to prove my innocence, so be it. Also, I'm not voting yet, as I'm not sure who to vote for.

[Connor S.]

Agh. No one is doing anything. Well... We'll just have to wait. hmmm... Lets see.... *starts mumbling about who the mafia probably are*

[Roland]

Either Ryu is acting like one of the biggest noobs in mafia history (No offence meant, however - remember: I said "acting like"), or he's a mafia. Meh. I somewhat believe him, but I expect better play! I'm a little suspicious how the only two PCR posts (that I can recall off the top of my head) have been thoroughly against Ryu!

Bah! I want this day to end already!

[Mossysox]

I'm a little suspicious how the only two PCR posts (that I can recall off the top of my head) have been thoroughly against Ryu!
That's exactly right. PCR has posted twice, and each time, he's voted Ryu.
I'll Vote: Ryuinfinity, for commiting 3 horrible crimes;

1. Random voting.
2. Calling a townie suspicious for asking whether or not No Lynch is OK.
3. 75% chance of being mafia.

Isn't Ryu's guilt obvious? ONLY MAFIA LIE ABOUT THEIR ROLES! And his excuses are ridiculous! "It was Halloween!" "...some fake" And, he said that Regen was a guarenteed "Mafia lynch". He was town! RYU IS MAFIA! So, everyone, Vote: Ryuinfinity!

P.S: I only have, like, an hour to post on weekdays. So, I don't have much time.
And while it's true that Ryu has been acting idiotically, never mind suspiciously, PCR's reasons don't entirely make sense. Point 3 in his first post looks like an attempt to blind people with probabilities - and false probabilities at that. And the main point in PCR's second post isn't well-aimed, either. Ryu was the fourth person to vote for Regen on the grounds that we'd get the mafia sibling, not the first, so why vote him for it rather than the rest of us?
This is very suspicious, but rather than voting PCR straight away, I'd like to ask the Skitzo to target him tonight, while our cop inspects Ryuinfinity. Because right now, I'd prefer to address our two major lurkers.
Neither Maiden Japan 007 nor Chaucer has posted at all yet this game. So, as a wake-up call, and on the grounds that he has more experience, and so should know better, I'll Vote: Chaucer, for lurking.

[Roland]

VOTE: PlasmaCannonsRule, for now.

Now, off to bed!

[PlasmaCannonsRule]

I've only posted twice because I don't have much time (and there are things other than Hamumu that I want/need to do), and they've been against Ryu because I find him very suspicious. Suspicion can be found in all his posts.

[Connor S.]

Yes, but it is quite wierd that you've voted him constantly... Almost ike a mafia trying to start a bandwagon, well trying to be inconpsicouis at the same time... Vote: PlasmaCannonsRule

Oh and Roland, I agree that you should target Ryu tonight. We need more information on him. And skitzo- PLEASE target Wes, He seems really suspicous to me for some reason... meh, I know there IS evedince, Im just too lazy to go back and look for it.

[Julian]

Votes:
Ryuinfinity 4(PCR, SpaceManiac, Christian, Licking Post)
Chaucer 1(Mossysox)
PCR 2 (Roland, Connor)
7 to lynch.

[Ryuinfinity]

Guess I'll join the bandwagon! Vote: PCR

[CatWoman]

Votes:
Ryuinfinity 4(PCR, SpaceManiac, Christian, Licking Post)
Chaucer 1(Mossysox)
PCR 2 (Roland, Connor)
7 to lynch.

Julian, I unvoted awhile ago. Now I'm voting PCR. I don't really find him suspicious, but I want this day to end. I don't exactly know why, but I believe Ryu was just kidding.

[Licking Post]

Sigh... Everybody is unvoting Ryu. I still think he's probably mafia, because he lied, but we'll know soon enough when Roland inspects him. I'm getting tired of nobody getting lynched, so I might as well UNVOTE and VOTE: PCR, though it's against my better judgement.

[ElMikkino]

Might as well jump on the bandwagon and let this day end. VOTE:PCR.

[Ryuinfinity]

W00t! Come on Julian! Post the dead mafia sibling's identity!

[Hammered]

Despite Ryuinfinity's rant, there are only 6 votes for PCR, so day is not yet over. Please continue with the voting.

[Ryuinfinity]

Oops... Sorry.

[Mossysox]

Well, I'm not certain about him, either. But since it will move things forward: Unvote, and Vote: PlasmaCannonsRule.

[Julian]

WIth 7 votes, PlasmaCannonsRule was banished from the town. Unfourtuneately, the town was on an island exactly the same size as it, and PCR couldn't swim.

ALso, people noticed that Chaucer wasn't there. They went to the town graveyard and saw a new grave. It said Chaucer on it and:

You are the Mafia Sibling. You are siblings with Regeneratorizer. See my other PM for more info.

You are the Doctor Enabler. You have no special power other than the vote. As long as you are alive, the Doctor will be as well. You might not want to tell any mafia this. You win if all the mafia are dead. I made a mistake on this, it was supposed to be the doc can protect people instead of will be alive.


Players:

1.CheeseLord - Mafia'd on Night #1 - Vanilla Townie
2.PlasmaCannonsRule - Couldn't Swim Day #2 - Doc Enabler
3.Maiden Japan 007
4.Roland
5.Connor S.
6.Wesley
7.ElMikkno
8.Chaucer - Dug his own Grave Day #2 - Mafia Sibling
9.Mossysox
10.Licking Post
11.Christian
12.Ryuinfinity
13.SpaceManiac
14.Regeneratorizer - puffed away day #1 - Townie Sibling

It is now NIght. Send your PMs!

[Julian]

Mossysox is dead. She was the cop enabler.

You are the Cop enabler. You have no special power other than the vote. As long as you are alive, then the cop can inspect. You win with the town, and win when there are no mafia left.

1.CheeseLord - Mafia'd on Night #1 - Vanilla Townie
2.PlasmaCannonsRule - Couldn't Swim Day #2 - Doc Enabler
3.Maiden Japan 007
4.Roland
5.Connor S.
6.Wesley
7.ElMikkno
8.Chaucer - Dug his own Grave Day #2 - Mafia Sibling
9.Mossysox - Died Night #2
10.Licking Post
11.Christian
12.Ryuinfinity
13.SpaceManiac
14.Regeneratorizer - puffed away day #1 - Townie Sibling

[Wesley]

2.PlasmaCannonsRule - Couldn't Swim Day #2 - Doc Enabler

Mossysox is dead. She was the cop enabler.

We got a mafia from the sibling, but it's a hollow victory. (Yes, I'm still playing Sleepless Hollow.) Now we can't inspect, or protect, and we're completely defenseless. It figures. The first game I'm finally a doctor the enabler gets killed, and I'm just a townie again. So, who should we vote for now?

EDIT: Hopefully, it's day now, but Julian didn't say, so I'm not sure.

[Julian]

Sorry, it's day. 5 votes to lynch.

[Roland]

RYUINFINITY IS TOWN

Yeah. Now, can more people please claim their roles? The list of proclaimed roles so far (ones in bold haven't been claimed yet and dead people's not included):

Townie - Ryuinfinity (we know this because he's a townie and claimed to be normal)
Townie - ElMikkino
Cop - Roland
Doctor - Wesley
Townie
Mafia
Godfather
Townie
Skitzo

List of people not claiming:

Maiden Japan 007
Connor.S
Licking Post
Christian
SpaceManiac

...Now, just because you claim to be a normal townie, doesn't make it so. Thus, we need EVERYBODY to say what they are, and the two remaining mafia will be forced to claim as a normal townie, because they couldn't claim to be a special role, as the real role would say something.

So, the bottom line is: TELL US YOUR ROLE - BIG TIME!

[ElMikkino]

I'll wait until morning in my time zone to vote, so that people can claim their roles. Maiden Japan 007 hasn't posted ONCE in this game, so I'm VERY suspicious of her right now.

[Connor S.]

Since wes's last post I strongly believe him to be innocent... Just a gut feeling, but I to will wait till moring for my vote.

[Roland]

Why are you so hesitant to role-claim, Connor.S?

[Mossysox]

I'm helping myself to a last gasp, since our other corpses had one....
It'll be very interesting to see Connor S.'s role-claim: he's either the skitzo or a mafia, and he looks more like a mafia to me.
I defenitly agree that christian is innocent. and because rolands evedince is consistant with mine, (i beleive very firmly that christian is innocent also) I will also belive him anout ryu. I also have other reasons to believe that Ryu is scum. If you need evedince, just look at his first post! And Wes, He posted in caps there too. Vote: Ryuinfinity
He can't have had evidence from an inspection against Ryuinfinity, but that does seem to be what he's hinting at. And this next post is the only reason I can see why it's me writing this and not our cop:-
now Wes is going to get you ryu, you posted in caps! :p But I to, will unvote, as we will get a mafia today anyways, (with the sibling) Plus it will give the *cough* roland* cough* Power roles a chance to get more info. Though roland is likely to die tonight, he can still post his inspection in his gasp.
Did his team back away from the obvious night kill to make Connor look innocent? If so, chances are that Christian is the godfather.
Get role-claiming people!

[Connor S.]

Fine, If I must, I will role claim as the skitzo. I hinted towards it a lot in some of my early posts if you paid attention! :p On night 1, I targeted Christian, and ended up inspecting her. Hense the "Gut feeling" that she was innocent.

Although, I guess your not going to beleieve me, just look at some of my posts about the skitzo, and power roles... The trained eye can see that I'm teling the truth.

EDIT: If you don't beleive I inspected Christian, Look at my posts on day 2, ESPECIALLY (woops, caps!) my last one on page six. I KNEW roland wasn't lying, as he aid he inspected christian, and got the same reults I did. I was the first to vote ryu after him, because I beleived he was the cop, which would make ryu a lyer. LYERS ARE SCUM!

[Ryuinfinity]

No, I'm not. *sigh* I WAS JUST KIDDING! Roland found me innocent! And I think it is agreed upon that Christian is the godfather!

[ElMikkino]

I went over Roland's post on the last page of who hasn't role-claimed, and I took what everyone siad on all the pages, and I think I know who the two remaining Mafia are: SpaceManiac and Maiden Japan 007. If Connor's the skitzo, and Christian's a townie, than that would leave SM, 007, and LP. Licking Post seems like a townie, so that leaves SM and 007. And, since 007 has probably left Hamumu for good, seeing as she hasn't posted in any forum for about a month, I say VOTE:Maiden Japan 007!

[Ryuinfinity]

Vote:Maidenjapan007! Take that you lurker!

[CatWoman]

I agree with the suspicions about Maiden Japan. In the last game she wasn't mafia and she did post, although not much. But there hasn't been a peep from her this game, so vote: Maiden Japan 007.

[Julian]

Votes:

Maiden: 3(Elmikkino, ryu, Christian)

[Wesley]

Vote:Maiden Japan 007 for now.

[Julian]

Votes:

Maiden: 4(Elmikkino, ryu, Christian, Wesley)

[Connor S.]

Ok, I don't want to edit- cuase this is a big (by my standards) post... so here goes. The players list:

1. Cheeselord
2. PlasmaCannonsRule
3. Maiden Japan
4. Roland
5. Connor S.
6. Wesley
7. Elmikkino
8. Chaucer
9. Mossysox
10. Licking Post
11. Christian
12. Ryuinfinity
13. SpaceManiac
14. Regeneratorizer

And heres the Edited one, with dead or proven good players in bold.


3. Ma
1. Cheeselord
2. PlasmaCannonsRuleiden Japan
4. Roland
5. Connor S.
6. Wesley
7. Elmikkino
8. Chaucer
9. Mossysox
10. Licking Post
11. Christian
12. Ryuinfinity
13. SpaceManiac
14. Regeneratorizer

So, It's easy to pick from this list now, The people not in bold are most supicous. And Maiden Japan hasn't posted all game, so, lurkers are evil!

vote:maiden japan

[Julian]

The day is over. Maiden Japan was brutally murdered, and she was a MAFIA GOON!

You are a Mafia Goon. Here is the list of mafia in order of sucession:

NOBODY

You win the living members of your group are equal to the amount of living members of the town. Send all your PMs to NOBODY.

It is night. Send your PMs.

Players:

1.CheeseLord - Mafia'd on Night #1 - Vanilla Townie
2.PlasmaCannonsRule - Couldn't Swim Day #2 - Doc Enabler
3.Maiden Japan 007 - Died day # 3 - Mafia goon
4.Roland
5.Connor S.
6.Wesley
7.ElMikkno
8.Chaucer - Dug his own Grave Day #2 - Mafia Sibling
9.Mossysox - Died Night #2
10.Licking Post
11.Christian
12.Ryuinfinity
13.SpaceManiac
14.Regeneratorizer - puffed away day #1 - Townie Sibling[/QUOTE]

[SpaceManiac]

I must have been away longer than I realized!

[Ryuinfinity]

Shhh! It is night!

[Julian]

Last night, Roland met a guillotine.

You are a townie Cop. Each night, PM me with the person you wish to inspect, and you shall. I will reply with wether they are innocent or not. You win with the town.

1.CheeseLord - Mafia'd on Night #1 - Vanilla Townie
2.PlasmaCannonsRule - Couldn't Swim Day #2 - Doc Enabler
3.Maiden Japan 007 - Died day # 3 - Mafia goon
4.Roland[/B - Mafia Chopped night #3 - Townie Cop/Townie
5.Connor S.
6.Wesley
7.ElMikkno
8.[B]Chaucer - Dug his own Grave Day #2 - Mafia Sibling
9.Mossysox - Died Night #2
10.Licking Post
11.Christian
12.Ryuinfinity
13.SpaceManiac
14.Regeneratorizer - puffed away day #1 - Townie Sibling

[Licking Post]

So, is it day now?

[Ryuinfinity]

Yes. I are pretty sure it is day now.

[Wesley]

That was a waste of a kill. Why didn't they go after Connor? Anyhow, only one more mafia! ...This game is going by pretty fast...

[Julian]

It is day. 4 votes to lynch.

[Ryuinfinity]

Woot! I don't want to get killed for random voting, but let's vote Connor.S!

[Wesley]

I'm not sure about it yet. Connor role-claimed to be the Skitzo. If he was a lying mafia, the real Skitzo would have to speak up sooner or later. Let's wait to see if someone speaks up.

[Ryuinfinity]

Aren't you the skitzo?

[Wesley]

Aren't you the skitzo?

Um... No. I role-claimed earlier as the doctor, remember?

EDIT: Though now that the enabler is dead, I'm just a normal townie again.

[Ryuinfinity]

Oh, yeah. But seriously, Connor.S is lurking!

[Wesley]

Oh, yeah. But seriously, Connor.S is lurking!

Still, it's no excuse for killing off our only power-role left. If he dies, and he was the Skitzo, It'll just be townies vs. mafia. Of course, if he was the mafia, and he dies, we win. But we don't know that.

[Ryuinfinity]

I guess we should tomorrow, in my timezone at least.

[ElMikkino]

For reasons I posted in post #167, I say VOTE: SpaceManiac!

[Connor S.]

It WAS a waste, the enabler being dead and all.. The only explanation (I) can see, is that the god father is a new player, also- going according to my list from the previous day, the most suspicous people are Licking Post, Elmikkino, and Space Maniac. I will also admit Christian into this list, as she seems like a god father... meh. so the new list of SUSPICOUS people. (in my eyes)Its also in order of mafianess :


1Christian
2SpaceManiac
3Elmikkino
4Licking Post

EDIT: WOAH! I started this post hoursa ago, then got sidetracked playing around with my dad, and people are accusing me of lurking! AH! meh. just know, that no one WILL speak up, because I AM the skitzo. Also- if it helps, I inspected Wes night two- hes innocent. And I think I protected Licking Post last night.

DOUBLE EDIT: Why'ed you want to vote me right away ryu? A little supicous... Theres no reason. meh. Im just a harmless skitzo... <_< >_> ok, so skitzos arent harmless but still...

I'm VERY surprised the mafia didn't kill me last night, this makes me think the remaining mafia is an inexperienced player, and din't understand the enabler thing.

WOOH! TRIPLE EDIT!: anyways, I saw chrisians post, and space maniac is on my list, PLUS hes a new player... (after much struggling, puts two and two together and gets.... SCUM!)

vote: SpaceManiac

[Wesley]

I guess he's one of the most likely mafia players. VOTE:Spacemaniac

[CatWoman]

I guess I'll join in, but I don't see much evidence. Vote: SpaceMainiac. And just for the record, I don't know if it's normal for people to role claim in mafia games, but I think that takes away a lot of the mystery and therefore the fun. Plus, since anyone can lie (even townies), I don't see the point.

[Connor S.]

Don't expect me to put much talkiness in until later tonight in my timezone, I'm going to the royal winter fair. But I'm NOT lurking. so yah... Lets get those mafia folks!

[Ryuinfinity]

The royal winter fair? You live in Toronto! Anyway, VOTE:SpaceManiac

[Hammered]

The lynch of SpaceManiac has been confirmed. There is no reason for anyone but Julian to be talking right now.

[Julian]

You are a plain old vanilla townie. You win when all the mafia are dead.

It is night. Send your PMs.

[Roland]

ARG! Before I went to sleep, I decided my last gasp would wait until tomorrow, but then you guys just go along and lynch the guy I always believed to be a townie. Right after MJ died, I knew the final mafia was probably Licking Post. If not, it's ElMikkino! I guess it could be Christian, though...

But please, Connor, use your powers on ElMikkino!

[Licking Post]

Probably Licking Post? What do you mean? Why would you think that? What have I done suspicious, besides be busy so I can't be on the forum 24/7? Meh, he can't answer because he's dead. Hopefully nobody will go on a whim and lynch me just because Roland said I was suspicious. I'm sorry I don't have my own suspicions to offer, but I've been too busy to follow this game too closely, and don't have any clear idea who's suspicious.

[ElMikkino]

ARG! Before I went to sleep, I decided my last gasp would wait until tomorrow, but then you guys just go along and lynch the guy I always believed to be a townie. Right after MJ died, I knew the final mafia was probably Licking Post. If not, it's ElMikkino! I guess it could be Christian, though...

But please, Connor, use your powers on ElMikkino!

Why is everyone so suspicious of me? Why would I vote off a member of the mafia when there were only 2 members left if I was mafia? It makes no sense. Ok, I was wrong about SM. Now to rethink...

People I mentioned in post 167:
Connor-Skitzo, probably, otherwise, he wouldn't know if someone was town or not
LP-Seems like town to me
SM-Dead
Christian-Connor said she was town, but I'm not sure. If that was true, I would be wrong, and I would have to look at the players list...one sec...

Ok, I looked. The only other people who are playing besides me, are Wesley and Ryu. Ryu is kinda suspicious, but Wesley...I dunno. Ryu said he was town a bunch, but did Wesley roleclaim? Oops, he did...but then who's mafia??? I have now narrowed it down to Christian and Ryu. If Christian's mafia, then that would probably mean Connor was also Mafia, which makes no sense, as there is only one Mafia left. So, that leaves it to one person...VOTE:Ryuinfinity!

[CatWoman]

Did I miss something? It's supposed to be night. Why are people posting?

[ElMikkino]

Oops! *stops*

[Hammered]

The lynch of SpaceManiac has been confirmed. There is no reason for anyone but Julian to be talking right now.How many times do I have to tell you people to be quiet? If anyone else speaks out of turn, they will be suspended from playing in the next three games.

[CatWoman]

I have a feeling I'm about to be banned ... hope some of you read this before then. Anyway, have fun! Just try not to do anything that makes no sense to offend people you don't know in ways that wouldn't occur to you. Lynch me!

[Jamul]

Please be aware that Christian is not being banned. This is a public service announcement.

[Wesley]

I have a feeling I'm about to be banned ... hope some of you read this before then. Anyway, have fun! Just try not to do anything that makes no sense to offend people you don't know in ways that wouldn't occur to you. Lynch me!


Please! Read my PMs! It doesn't have to end like this!

[CatWoman]

Thank you, Wesley. I will never vote to lynch you again ... maybe! :twisted: And thanks, Jamul. I have felt like my family deserted me.

[Wesley]

Thank you, Wesley. I will never vote to lynch you again ... maybe! :twisted: And thanks, Jamul. I have felt like my family deserted me.

*Is clueless* Umm... Are you still leaving, or are you going to stay? *Hopes for the second one*

[Ryuinfinity]

Okay Christian, that was the last straw! Vote:Christian

[Julian]

Last night, two shots rang out at exactly the same time. Two vanilla townies, Ryu and ElMikkino died.

Players
----------------
1.CheeseLord - Mafia'd on Night #1 - Vanilla Townie
2.PlasmaCannonsRule - Couldn't Swim Day #2 - Doc Enabler
3.Maiden Japan 007 - Died day # 3 - Mafia goon
4.Roland - Mafia Chopped night #3 - Townie Cop/Townie
5.Connor S.
6.Wesley
7.ElMikkno - Died Night # 4 - Townie Townie
8.Chaucer - Dug his own Grave Day #2 - Mafia Sibling
9.Mossysox - Died Night #2
10.Licking Post
11.Christian
12.Ryuinfinity Died Night #4 - Townie Townie
13.SpaceManiac
14.Regeneratorizer - puffed away day #1 - Townie Sibling

Day - 3 to lynch

[Connor S.]

Well I did as roland asked... and thats what happened! I guess that proves me to be the skitzo... Also- It decreased the list to choose from, and WHY AREN'T I DEAD YET?!?!?! I'm not complaining, :p but still...

This makes me beleive the remaining mafia is EXTREMELY inexperienced and doesn't exactly know about power roles... so, judging by the fact ryu posted during night, that would show him to be inexperienced. I think at this time we must atop trusting inspections, as the godfather WOULD turn up innocent, and start voting for whos suspicous!

My fellow townies, vote: ryuinfinity!

[ElMikkino]

Of course. That's what had to happen. Well, as you know, I'm town. My only suspicions, since there are so few people left now, are LP and Christian. Christian was declared good by Connor, so copy and paste this:

VOTE: Licking Post!

Oh, and Connor, Ryu's already dead:roll:.

Well, at least I lasted a LOT longer than Game #22 and #23. Ciao!

[Wesley]

...Hm? Oh. VOTE: Licking Post ...

[Ryuinfinity]

As for my last gasp, I urge you to vote Licking Post! And told you I was plain vannila!

[Connor S.]

Meh, to lazy to pay attention, lus, I had A LONG! day. horses are neat. :p Anyways, LICKING POST MIGHT NOT BE MAFIA! keep voting for him though.

Theres a chance christians mafia. Just because I said she was good doesn't make her so. Remember, godfathers show up innocent, and thats who we're dealing with.

So don't vote people just because someone of equal suspicousness is "proven" town. Theres no such thing at this point!

The most logical thing we can do is start picking off the inexperienced players, as smarter ones would have killed me by now.

So I too, will vote: licking post but know, that if he's town, christian is our next best bet!

[Hammered]

I feel compelled to point out that the lynch of Licking Post is now confirmed, so nobody should be posting in here, other than Julian, until Julian says it is day.

[Julian]

Another innocent Vanilla townie has been lynched. WILL IT EVER END?

Players
----------------
1.CheeseLord - Mafia'd on Night #1 - Vanilla Townie
2.PlasmaCannonsRule - Couldn't Swim Day #2 - Doc Enabler
3.Maiden Japan 007 - Died day # 3 - Mafia goon
4.Roland - Mafia Chopped night #3 - Townie Cop/Townie
5.Connor S.
6.Wesley
7.ElMikkno - Died Night # 4 - Townie Townie
8.Chaucer - Dug his own Grave Day #2 - Mafia Sibling
9.Mossysox - Died Night #2
10.Licking Post - lynched day 4 - Vanilla Townie
11.Christian
12.Ryuinfinity Died Night #4 - Townie Townie
13.SpaceManiac - Was forgotten - Died when?
14.Regeneratorizer - puffed away day #1 - Townie Sibling

It is NIGHT. NO POSTING@! I'd say that I'd modkill anyone that does, but no. JUST SEND PMs, PLEASE!

[SpaceManiac]

Hammered told me it is ok to post last gasps at night, so for your convienience, here is a list of the roles left alive right now:

Townie (was Doctor)
Godfather
SkitzoAnd there you go. Just from here, though, it looks like the mafia have won. :x Oh well. Fools! Killing off innocent townies!

[Hammered]

Julian made a mistake on his list.

The actual list of people left alive is:

Christian
Connor S.
Wesley

[Julian]

The mafia have won! Christian killed off COnnor S. last night.

You are SKITZO!!! You are like a Jack of Al Trades, except what you do is random. Tell me the name of a person at night, and you will protect, inspect or kill that person. Randomly. You are a townie, and win when there are no mafia left.

I won't post Christian's PM, she was the GF. Wesley was a vanilla townie.

[CatWoman]

Am I bad, or what? I was playing totally alone as I had no input whatsoever from Chaucer and Maiden Japan. Although Chaucer didn't have much of a chance since he died so soon. :|

I found it amusing that people wondered why I took out people other than Connor S. I was hoping for exactly what happened ... a double kill one night. And that couldn't happen if he was dead, now could it? :)

[Connor S.]

Wow, if I had targeted Me instead of christian, townies might of won! I protected you last night! :lol: Meh, we played a good game, and came very close. now onto Magic Mafia! and man, the title of this thread is still bugging me... Magia Game? whats a Magia? :)

[regeneratorizer]

YES! Go mafia! Woot!

Say, Christian, I think now you know what it felt like when I was lynched. Horrible feeling, isn't it?

[Licking Post]

Thanx all you people for lynching me on a whim! It's my first mafia game, and everybody has to gang up on me! I didn't do anything suspicious! I was just a normal townie! *Sob!* I want to be mafia next time.

[Connor S.]

All the evedince pointed to an inexperienced player being mafia, thats why we lynched you. Anywas, christian- you played it well. Next game however, whatever side I'm on, WE WILL WIN! :twisted:

(man I hope i'm mafia. never been one before.)

[Mossysox]

Guys, I think this is called 'snatching defeat from the jaws of victory'. There was only one mafia left, yet you were lynching away without pausing to look at your evidence. Which included the fact that Connor had role-blocked Licking Post on the night that Roland died, which proved that he was a townie - yet you went and lynched him anyway. Why, people, why??? :shock:

[Roland]

I played terribly! I always stuff up my gasps, and right after I had mine, I knew Christian was a mafia. Why? Because it wasn't Licking Post - All those Godfather kills were sent within less than 12 hours EVERY time! It had to be an active person. So, meh. I guess I didn't really put a lot of effort into this game because it was kinda broken.

But honestly, two mafia never posted once! Talk about difficult to find evidence! :shock: Sure, they died, but if they had posted, I might have been able to pick up on connections between buddies. Really, why did Maiden Japan and Chaucer even play this game!

P.S: And Mossysox, the Skitzo's abilities don't include roleblocking. They could, but Julian said they didn't.

EDIT: At this point in time... 1111 posts! w00t!

[Mossysox]

Apologies. My mistake.

[CatWoman]

YES! Go mafia! Woot!

Say, Christian, I think now you know what it felt like when I was lynched. Horrible feeling, isn't it?
I wouldn't know. I have never been lynched! :twisted:

[Wesley]

Wow, we sure messed up this game. This was a good game though. Nothing really new, but it wasn't broken. Anyway, on to Magic Mafia. ...And then my game! I'd better get to work...

[ElMikkino]

GRRR:x!! Sorry, guys! Well, at least I started the bandwagon on Maiden...on to Magic Mafia!