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Wesley
11-15-2007, 05:02 PM
Mafia Game #26: Witchcraft Mafia

“WITCH! WITCH!” One of the townspeople shouted.

“There he his! Get him!” Another said, pointing at a man who was running away.

The man quickly darted around the town, being careful to avoid other villagers that might be after him. He finally found an house that had no lights on, and hid inside. He crouched on the floor, just getting up occasionally to look out the window. Suddenly, his thoughts were interrupted by a soft, but piercing “MEOW”. He looked right behind him, and instantly became silent.

Sitting right there was a small, black cat with golden eyes, sitting there. That was not what was making him quiet. Standing just behind a table was a woman, who was wearing strange clothing.

“Excuse me,” She said, “But you’re in my house. Please leave.”

“Uh…” The man started to say something, but angry roars from a nearby crowd interrupted him.
The woman crossed over the room, and looked out a window.

“Oh,” She said, “They’re after you, aren’t they? I heard that this town was very superstitious, and that if you did something even remotely strange, they saw you as a witch, and burned you at the stake. Ever since that coven got here, it’s been getting worse.”

She turned to the man, and smiled.

“Don’t worry, I know you’re not a real witch. But I’m afraid the townspeople might not listen to me. Perhaps…” She turned toward a door, and started to open it, when the small cat stepped forward. The woman looked down, and patted the cat on the head. “Don’t worry,” She said. “I’ll only be gone for a little while. Stay here, and make sure this man is safe.” She then went outside, and shut the door, leaving the man alone with the furry feline. The small pet jumped on the windowsill, while the bewildered man leaned against the wall near it, being careful not to be spotted. Suddenly, more voices were heard.

“Who’s she?”

“She looks strange… Only a witch would dress like that!”

“Hey, Look in that window!”

The man froze.

“She owns a black cat! She must be a witch!’

The man sunk in relief, but was concerned about what would happen to the stranger who had just helped him. The cat, on the other hand, merely continued watching the scene outside, with its bright eyes.

The helpful stranger blinked, and almost couldn’t help smiling at how paranoid the town was. However, she knew this wouldn’t help, and calmly started talking.

“No, I am not a bad person.” She said.

“Huh?” One of the villagers looked confused. “But-“

“I am merely a traveler, wandering the lands with my pet cat.” She said, cutting the person off. She looked around the crowd. “I came here to rest for the night, but I’m afraid that it looks like I may have to do something about this in order to stay here peacefully. You’re having a problem with witches, right now, aren’t you?

“Wizards too! Well, Wizard.” The confused villager added.

"Actually," The strange looking woman began, "That is a common misconception. Wizards and Witches are basically-"

“It doesn’t matter!” The man said, cutting off the woman who had cut him off earlier. “There’s bad people here, and they’re trying to destroy us, one by one! Now, what are you going to do about it?”

The woman frowned, and couldn’t help but notice how rude this town was. But, she sighed, and said, “If you continue to burn everyone you think is a witch, you’re just doing the coven’s work for them. At this rate, there will be nobody left.”

At this point, some notable reactions took place in the crowd. One person smiled, as if the thought of hundreds of people burning to a crisp was funny, while another person had mixed reactions, as though that person couldn’t decide if that were a good thing, or a bad thing, while another person searched the crowd, as if looking for someone…

The woman saw these things, and thought for a second. She then shook her head, and continued. “I will help you decide who to burn at the stake. We will have a discussion about it, vote on it, and I’ll keep track of everything. When enough people have voted, we’ll burn the person at the stake. Hopefully, there’s more of a chance we’ll get a member of the coven, or another evildoer that way.”

One of the crowd members frowned, and glared at the woman, as if that person didn’t like that idea, while another looked around nervously, and started to shake, while at the same time, another person continued looking around the crowd, not even listening to what was going on. “Okay.” One of the non-reacting villagers said. “Let’s go.”

The crowd and the woman started walking toward the town. The woman looked back at the cat, still looking through the windowsill, and nodded. The cat then bit the hiding man’s hand gently, as if telling him to follow it. The cat then trotted off into the darkness, as the man followed. Back in the crowd, one of the villagers suddenly stopped, and looked at the woman.

“By the way, what should we call you?”

The woman smiled, and replied, “You can call me Mrs.Medium.”

NIGHT 1

PMS WILL BE SENT OUT SHORTLY. NO TALKING UNTIL DAY.

Current Players:

Chaucer
CheeseLord
Chrstian
Connor S.
Coolguy
diginova
ducklegion
ElMinkkino
Julian
Justin
Mossysox
PlasmaCannonsRule
regeneratorizer
Roland
SpaceManiac
Ufo-Man

Wesley
11-16-2007, 04:30 PM
After a long walk back to the town. Mrs. Medium noticed something. A few citizens were missing from the group... Sure enough though, by half an hour, the rest showed up. Well, almost all of the rest. Diginova was nowhere to be seen. They started to retrace their steps back to Mrs.Medium's house.

They found Diginova lying on the ground, and they thought the worst. Mrs.Medium ran up to him, but suddenly stopped, when Diginova got up, and faced the crowd. "Sorry," He said. "I dropped a book earlier, and I was looking for it." He held up the hardcover book, and everyone saw the title, "To Serve Man" on it. Everyone gasped, and Diginova looked annoyed. "No, it's not that kind of book. It's a cookbook. I also have the other volume, "To Serve Woman". I was going to have a surprise breakfast, with all sorts of delicious food, but I couldn't find many ingredients..."

Mrs.Medium blinked, and then said, "Oh. Well, let's get back to Grim Grove." They started walking, but Diginova stopped them.

"Also," He said. "Roland's dead."

Everyone gasped.

"I tripped over him while looking for my book, I was going to get help, but it looks like he's turned to stone pretty good." Diginova looked at Roland, who was standing in the middle of the road, with a surprised expression. Mrs. Medium examined him, then gave a sad sigh.

"There's nothing I can do... Well, let's get him back to town. Maybe we can use him as a pole to keep my tent up. HEAVE HO!" Everyone started pushing him back to Grim Grove, just as the sun rose.

DAY 1

Alive Players:

Chaucer
CheeseLord
Chrstian
Connor S.
Coolguy
diginova
ducklegion
ElMinkkino
Julian
Justin
PlasmaCannonsRule
Mossysox
regeneratorizer
SpaceManiac
Ufo-Man

Not-so-alive Players:

Roland - Angry Citizen

Also, throughout the game, I will send Plot PMs to many people. They're basically little bits of the story that only apply to you, or a couple other people. They have no real effect, except to add to the atmosphere. When I send them, please do not reply to them, as there's nothing really to reply to.

SpaceManiac
11-16-2007, 04:36 PM
Yay! It's day 1! Is no lynch allowed today?

Justin
11-16-2007, 04:47 PM
Hey, witchcrafters.

Roland
11-16-2007, 04:48 PM
Wow, I feel like Wackiewatty. ;)

Anywho, I am absolutely 87% sure that SpaceManiac is a PM'er and that he was the last one to get his PM in.

Also, SpaceManiac, if he is the Godfather, might be getting revenge on me for Magic Mafia. Also, a more experienced person, or somebody that has played or watched him play, would have killed Coolguy. And SM has never played with CG.

I know it may sound crazy, but the last two games I had random feeling about a person right when Day 1 started and I was correct in that they were mafia (Christian and Jamul). Phear me!

CheeseLord
11-16-2007, 04:48 PM
Do we get to see Roland's role?

Coolguy
11-16-2007, 04:50 PM
I agree that SM probably has a PM- He was asking if Wes posted yet in the Chat but Wes had not mentioned that he was posting. (Although I guess that Wes may have mentioned it before I came in) This certainly doesn't mean he's a witch, though.

And bah, thanks a lot, Roland, now the witches will kill me!!!!

EDIT: And I poked Wes about the role in the Chat- He said 'Whoops', so I'm guessing that he's editing it in.

SpaceManiac
11-16-2007, 04:51 PM
I am most certainly NOT mafia! I was in the chat with Wesley at the time and he announced it to me, so I posted the question I had.

CheeseLord
11-16-2007, 04:52 PM
but Wes had not mentioned that he was posting.
Actually, he had.

Coolguy
11-16-2007, 04:53 PM
He had? It must've been a bit before I came in, then.

Wesley
11-16-2007, 04:54 PM
Yay! It's day 1! Is no lynch allowed today?

In a word, no. This is why I started at night, so there would be no need for a No Lynch.

Do we get to see Roland's role?

Whoops, I forgot... Anyway, I'm not very good at quoting roles, but Roland was an Angry Citizen. (A Vanilla Townie)

CatWoman
11-16-2007, 05:25 PM
Hi, everyone. This sounds fun! :D I guess we'll be burning people at the stake instead of lynching them.

PlasmaCannonsRule
11-16-2007, 05:26 PM
Anyway, I'm not very good at quoting roles, but Roland was an Angry Citizen. (A Vanilla Townie)

O RLY? I don't think so 4 some reeson.....

Connor S.
11-16-2007, 05:30 PM
BURN!!! :twisted: <_< >_> I mean... You didn't see anything... Anyways, hey all you guys? How bout we do this in a logical fashion! Everyone strap a lead weight onto your ankle, and jump in the pool! Whoever survives can be burned at the stake by the remained townies! :p

Hammered
11-16-2007, 05:31 PM
Wesley is the host - if he says someone is an angry citizen / plain vanilla townie, it's probably safe to take him at his word. By the way, don't try to vote me out for posting. I am an NPC.

Sincerely,
Mrs. Medium

Connor S.
11-16-2007, 05:34 PM
vote to burn: Hammered! :p Jking of course. But I'm just trying to get the game moving... Someone speak up! Youll save everyones time if your a witch, and you say so! :p

Ufo-Man
11-16-2007, 05:46 PM
Well.... We need to lynch somebody, so we need the cop to tell who he inspected, and the doctor will protect him. We will hope he is a normal cop and when he inspected, it was scum. Also inspect yourself to make sure you are a normal cop.

CatWoman
11-16-2007, 05:55 PM
O RLY? I don't think so 4 some reeson.....Well, here's something to think about. Why did PCR doubt Wesley when he said Roland was an angry citizen / townie? There's one possible reason I can think of why PCR would question this. Maybe HIS role PM listed him as a witch and he therefore doesn't know that an angry citizen is a townie in this game. Could PCR be a witch? What does everyone else think?

EDIT: Having just read what Wesley said about not lying, maybe I misunderstood PCR. Was he simply questioning whether or not Wesley was good at quoting roles, or did he not know what an angry citizen was? Now I'm confused, so just ignore me. I would delete this post if I could!

Coolguy
11-16-2007, 05:57 PM
Well.... We need to lynch somebody, so we need the cop to tell who he inspected, and the doctor will protect him. We will hope he is a normal cop and when he inspected, it was scum. Also inspect yourself to make sure you are a normal cop.

The cop shouldn't waste an inspection on himself unless he has to claim- One of his inspectees might die.

And the best protection is secrecy. :p The cop should remain silent until he finds a Mafia (and is sure he isn't insane).

Wesley
11-16-2007, 06:01 PM
Wesley is the host - if he says someone is an angry citizen / plain vanilla townie, it's probably safe to take him at his word. By the way, don't try to vote me out for posting. I am an NPC.

Sincerely,
Mrs. Medium

My clever co-host is right. I would never lie about someone's role, and I don't know what I would have to gain by doing that, even if I did.

P.S. I wasn't very good at quoting roles before too. Check my last mafia game.

PlasmaCannonsRule
11-16-2007, 06:15 PM
Well, here's something to think about. Why did PCR doubt Wesley when he said Roland was an angry citizen / townie? There's one possible reason I can think of why PCR would question this. Maybe HIS role PM listed him as a witch and he therefore doesn't know that an angry citizen is a townie in this game. Could PCR be a witch? What does everyone else think?

I don't doubt that Roland is an Angry Citizen. It's the role info. Believe me, I know that isn't it........ close, but not quite....

CatWoman
11-16-2007, 06:21 PM
I don't doubt that Roland is an Angry Citizen. It's the role info. Believe me, I know that isn't it........ close, but not quite....I was just editing my post when you posted.

Connor S.
11-16-2007, 06:26 PM
Maybe we should all consider that PCR is the angry citizen, and therefor doesnt think roland can be. However- If it is a plain vanilla townie, this shouldn't matter. Mayvbe though, the PM is worded in such a way that it makes you THINK that your a one of a kind. meh. Angry Citizen just doesn't sound like a normal townie. A vengeful one, sure. but anyways, this might mena that all of us townies thought it was a special role- seeing as it might not specify that we are vanilla townies. <_< >_> dont bother to try and understand that.

Coolguy
11-16-2007, 06:56 PM
I don't think the host would outright lie about a role. :p Wes had a bunch of those (Adjective) Townie roles last game, and their powers didn't necessarily match their names.

Ufo-Man
11-16-2007, 06:58 PM
Now, any guesses who is Witch/Wizard/Mafia?

Connor S.
11-16-2007, 07:32 PM
Space Maniac and PCR have both acted strangely, so it will probably be one of those two that goes in the end. Im leaning towards PCR, because Spacemaniac hasn't actually done anything wrong, he could just have a pming role, where as PCR is just downright wierd. but I'm not voting yet.

Ufo-Man
11-16-2007, 07:52 PM
So, we will see who we lynch

chaucer
11-16-2007, 08:38 PM
<snip>They found Diginova lying on the ground, and they thought the worst. Mrs.Medium ran up to him, but suddenly stopped, when Diginova got up, and faced the crowd. "Sorry," He said. "I dropped a book earlier, and I was looking for it." He held up the hardcover book, and everyone saw the title, "To Serve Man" on it. Everyone gasped, and Diginova looked annoyed. "No, it's not that kind of book. It's a cookbook. I also have the other volume, "To Serve Woman". I was going to have a surprise breakfast, with all sorts of delicious food, but I couldn't find many ingredients..."

Mrs.Medium blinked, and then said, "Oh. Well, let's get back to Grim Grove." They started walking, but Diginova stopped them.

"Also," He said. "Roland's dead."

Everyone gasped.

"I tripped over him while looking for my book, I was going to get help, but it looks like he's turned to stone pretty good." Diginova looked at Roland, who was standing in the middle of the road, with a surprised expression. Mrs. Medium examined him, then gave a sad sigh. <snip>


From what this post has to do with diginova, I would say that he is a tracker. This means that he is a semi-cop, and thus is a very useful role to us.

Wow, I feel like Wackiewatty. ;)

Anywho, I am absolutely 87% sure that SpaceManiac is a PM'er and that he was the last one to get his PM in.

Also, SpaceManiac, if he is the Godfather, might be getting revenge on me for Magic Mafia. Also, a more experienced person, or somebody that has played or watched him play, would have killed Coolguy. And SM has never played with CG.

I know it may sound crazy, but the last two games I had random feeling about a person right when Day 1 started and I was correct in that they were mafia (Christian and Jamul). Phear me!

I agree with Roland. SpaceManiac is a fairly new player, and thus may not be aware of who the more experienced players are. Of course, there are a couple of other possibilities:

1: SpaceManiac is a godfather, but one of his fellow scum are Coolguy, which is why he is alive.
2: Coolguy is the godfather, obivously meaning that the mafia wouldn't kill him.

I am most certainly NOT mafia! I was in the chat with Wesley at the time and he announced it to me, so I posted the question I had.

You know, that sure sounds desperate for a minor accusation.

O RLY? I don't think so 4 some reeson.....

O RLY? 4 some reason, this post makes me think that you are trying to act "un-guilty". But that's just me.

BURN!!! :twisted: <_< >_> I mean... You didn't see anything... Anyways, hey all you guys? How bout we do this in a logical fashion! Everyone strap a lead weight onto your ankle, and jump in the pool! Whoever survives can be burned at the stake by the remained townies! :p

You know, this rather reminds me of how I used to act when I was a mafia: just being silly in general, but posting so as not to be accused of lurking.

vote to burn: Hammered! :p Jking of course. But I'm just trying to get the game moving... Someone speak up! Youll save everyones time if your a witch, and you say so! :p

See above.

Now, any guesses who is Witch/Wizard/Mafia?

This, as well is just a useless post made to seem innocent but not be accused of lurking.

So, we will see who we lynch

See above. Again.

Okay, I think I might have just nailed our four mafia. Possibly. Anyway, for now, Vote: SpaceManiac

Ufo-Man
11-16-2007, 09:20 PM
Ok, Now I will Vote:SM

CatWoman
11-16-2007, 09:24 PM
How could Roland be 87% sure that SM is a PMer? And Chaucer really didn't say anything except that SM maybe protested too strongly, which I don't agree with. I'll hold my vote until others give some more substantial reasons.

Ufo-Man
11-16-2007, 09:31 PM
Now I am pointing something out, but most likely this is also called PMing, Which i dont know what it is, Well people here have invisable mode on like christian.
I just wanted to point it out

Justin
11-16-2007, 10:54 PM
I am going to go for SpaceManiac.

I agree with the discussion on PMing stuff, and chaucer's notes.

VOTE: SpaceManiac

And, I would like to say I am pretty sure PCR is innocent. ;) I will say why later.

CatWoman
11-16-2007, 11:03 PM
Now I am pointing something out, but most likely this is also called PMing, Which i dont know what it is, Well people here have invisable mode on like christian.
I just wanted to point it outPMing is sending a Private Message (PM, get it?). It is most definitely not the same as having invisible mode turned on. And anyone who plays mafia should be invisible, IMO.

What I am wondering is about Roland's 87% certainty. If in fact SpaceManiac does not have invisible mode on and he was sending a PM, then Roland should be 100% sure he was PMing. As I asked before ... how can Roland be 87% sure? That is very weird. Maybe I didn't make that clear before. I'm simply asking a question, not saying I think he's innocent.

Mossysox
11-17-2007, 03:12 AM
'Morning, everyone. So, we have witches among us, do we? And some very suspicious behaviour already.

PCR's remark seems a little strange to me, since I don't see how he could be confused about Roland's role, if he had the same role himself. But his comment is nowhere near as suspicious as Connor S.'s:-

Maybe we should all consider that PCR is the angry citizen, and therefor doesnt think roland can be. However- If it is a plain vanilla townie, this shouldn't matter. Mayvbe though, the PM is worded in such a way that it makes you THINK that your a one of a kind. meh. Angry Citizen just doesn't sound like a normal townie. A vengeful one, sure. but anyways, this might mena that all of us townies thought it was a special role- seeing as it might not specify that we are vanilla townies. <_< >_> dont bother to try and understand that.

The first point seems fair enough, except that it has me wondering why Connor S. feels the need to explain PCR's behaviour for him. And the second point is downright fishy. If Connor S. was also an Angry Citizen, he would know how clear it is that this is the general state of Grim Grove's population.
Yet here he is, three posts later, contradicting himself:

Space Maniac and PCR have both acted strangely, so it will probably be one of those two that goes in the end. Im leaning towards PCR, because Spacemaniac hasn't actually done anything wrong, he could just have a pming role, where as PCR is just downright wierd. but I'm not voting yet.

Which would have earned him my vote, if he had voted himself at this point. As it is, I'd like to suggest that our cop take a look at Connor. S tonight, because although I find him highly suspicious, and agree with Chaucer about what his behaviour looks like, I don't think Connor S. has quite given us enough reason reason to lynch him yet.

I don't think the evidence is strong enough against SpaceManiac, either. Roland was an interesting choice for the kill, given that it leaves Coolguy and Diginova standing, to mention just two (and Diginova did find the body...); and I suppose SpaceManiac might be paying Roland back, and could have a PMing role, but this isn't really evidence against him - and if we're burning somebody at the stake, I'd like some evidence, however angry I might be.

Hammered
11-17-2007, 05:23 AM
Now I am pointing something out, but most likely this is also called PMing, which I don't know what it is: Well people here have invisible mode on like Christian.

I just wanted to point it out
All people here who have that turned on are playing the game as they have been told to do. It has been said 100 times over on the forum that regular mafia players need to turn invisible mode on. To do otherwise is to invite meta-gaming by some people, most notably someone that is in this game. Those of you who have not yet turned on invisible mode need to do so as soon as possible.

And, even though I have posted a second time, you still can't vote for me, as I am still a NPC!

Helpfully yours,
Mrs. Medium

chaucer
11-17-2007, 05:28 AM
PMing is sending a Private Message (PM, get it?). It is most definitely not the same as having invisible mode turned on. And anyone who plays mafia should be invisible, IMO.

What I am wondering is about Roland's 87% certainty. If in fact SpaceManiac does not have invisible mode on and he was sending a PM, then Roland should be 100% sure he was PMing. As I asked before ... how can Roland be 87% sure? That is very weird. Maybe I didn't make that clear before. I'm simply asking a question, not saying I think he's innocent.

I believe Roland is 87% sure because he did see him PMing, but cannot be sure if it was role-related.

Connor S.
11-17-2007, 05:29 AM
Areg! I am townie! :p ok, you obviosuly wont believe that, but still! :D Just because YOU chaucer are silly when your mafia, doesnt mean I am! your judging others by how YOU act! and we're all individuals. I am different from you obviosuly. I am nervous the amfia will kill me, (for no good eason, I am vanilla) and I am worried I will get lynched, so I have little stress relievers. If you look back last game, I wasn't nearly as stressed, and wasn't as silly! And for everyone else- I dont know why I posted that. I said not to bother to ty and understand it. I was tired at the time, so yah, I MIGHT have contridicted myself. but I am NOT tired now, so I see the best option is to vote to burn: Space Maniac and see what happens.

Trackers, cops, hiders, whoever, feel free to inspect me. And even if I AM the godfather, the trackers will see me going to the house of the person that dies, which means that even if the cop got an innocent result, the tracker can pin me as the godfather if neccessary. But hey, I dont care, becasue I will (hopefully) stay nice and safe in my bed all night.

Now, Ufo-Man, seems to be behaving REALLY starngely. might just be a grudge on my part, but notice how he is urging the lynch along, and asking everyone who they want to votem, but not voting himself? Trying not to start a bandwagon, but at the same time, rush the townies into making a bad decision, befor they think anything over. So I think he and PCR defenitely belong on that list, but me? not so much. I just can't see where your comng from chaucer, and eveyrone else- I agree, it was a suspicous post. but again, insepect me with whoever you have.

CatWoman
11-17-2007, 06:14 AM
Chaucer, thanks for your explanation. That actually makes sense. I was tired last night and my brain wasn't working very well. (At least that's my excuse! :p)

Connor S, I actually understood the post you made explaining Roland's point, and I didn't think it was suspicious. And Ufo-Man has voted, so your last post doesn't make much sense.

If I counted correctly it looks like four votes to burn SpaceManiac, so I'll add mine to the list since it looks like he's toast (burnt toast, get it?). I still don't think he's as suspicious as some others, but it looks like people are going to vote him off.

Vote: SpaceManiac

Julian
11-17-2007, 06:50 AM
I guess I will VOTE: SpaceManiac, but I don't see why. :?:

Connor S.
11-17-2007, 07:11 AM
Perhaps I just feel like talking, whatever, but perhaps Wes isn't showing the role PM because.. theres a reason of some sort! This is only speculation, but maybe he doesn't want anyone to know about Rolands PM pr something, so he is using is inabiltiy to quote pms as an excuse. meh. just a thought. Dont listen to me! :p

Ufo-Man
11-17-2007, 08:33 AM
How much to lynch?

chaucer
11-17-2007, 08:34 AM
3 votes left. Come one people, let's cook some stake with a side of witch.

Ufo-Man
11-17-2007, 08:39 AM
That will taste good, but who hasn't voted yet?

Connor S.
11-17-2007, 08:43 AM
Why is it your so eager to get Space maniac lynched Ufo? to me, you sound like a WITCH! meh. I might cosnider unvoting actually- just because there are certain people that seem VERY eager to o through with this lynch, and Space might therefor be a townie. of course, I obviously won't mention WHO I think is really eager, after all, it couldn't be Uf- I mean... anyone at all, couldnt it?

Wesley
11-17-2007, 08:55 AM
Suddenly, just as everyone was talking, and Mrs. Medium was writing everything down, Ducklegion was sucked into a black hole, just as Mr.Onion came out of it.

Ducklegion has dropped out, and Mr.Onion has replaced him.

Now, for a note from the host: Throughout the game, when people die or something, some other players might be included in the death/day/night/whatever text, just for the sake of the story. For example, when Roland died, Diginova was in his death text. This does not in any way prove him good or evil, he was just there for the sake of the story. (Actually, I was going to put Mr.O there, until I realized he wasn't playing at the time)

regeneratorizer
11-17-2007, 08:59 AM
I'll go ahead and VOTE: Space Maniac

Ufo-Man
11-17-2007, 09:00 AM
Why is it your so eager to get Space maniac lynched Ufo? to me, you sound like a WITCH! meh. I might cosnider unvoting actually- just because there are certain people that seem VERY eager to o through with this lynch, and Space might therefor be a townie. of course, I obviously won't mention WHO I think is really eager, after all, it couldn't be Uf- I mean... anyone at all, couldnt it?I just want the day to be over so we can see whoever the cop inspected is Scum. Is that bad?? I dont think so

PlasmaCannonsRule
11-17-2007, 09:01 AM
Bleg. Even if SpaceManiac is town, there is no saving him, so I'll Vote: SM. Oh, and I'll probably get killed next due to Roland and Justin, so I'll role claim as another Angry Citizen, and our goal is the kill of the Coven and the Evil Wizard.

Ufo-Man
11-17-2007, 09:04 AM
I am also An Angry citizen (but most people will think i am lieing)

Connor S.
11-17-2007, 09:12 AM
Diddo. I am THE ANGRY! GRR! :evil: and such... but Im also the citizen and stuff. Yes, I want the coven of witches dead, as well as the Wizard. DIE EVIL MAGIC PEOPLE!

Julian
11-17-2007, 10:02 AM
Why is SM so suspicious? I'd like to know, so I can see if my vote should be changed.

Coolguy
11-17-2007, 10:06 AM
If you're not sure somebody's evil, don't vote him!!!!

SpaceManiac could just as easily be a power role as a GF- I'm keeping my vote. I instead VOTE: Connor until he gives a decent explanation for why he said the Angry Citizen sounds like an evil role and then a bit later claims as one! :p

EDIT: Oops, I think I misunderstood that post- I UNVOTE and say sorry to CS. I agree with him that there are people very eager to kill SM, which could easily be witches trying to get rid of a PMing role.

And also, reading a PM counts as PMing on the Currently Active Users page.

DOUBLE-EDIT:

Alright, my current observations:

PCR is quite a bit more active than normal- He might be a townie for once, or he's once again a Mafia and has changed his tactics now that he's been getting lynched for hiding.

Lots of people are very eager to get rid of SM, even though he doesn't have much evidence against him. The witches are definately going to want to get rid of a power role.

Connor S.
11-17-2007, 10:21 AM
Thanks coolguy for understanding me! Anyways, I forgot to unvote. I really dont want to help the mafia lynch a poor townie/angry cituizen!

(and I DONT think Angry citizen is evil- I asm one two! and also- because of what my pm said, I didn't think I was vanilla until now, so Ithought PCR was lieing.)

Ufo-Man
11-17-2007, 10:25 AM
I will follow and Unvote. (I am just following what they are saying. I just am a follower, not a leader in here.Leader is not a role that I know of. I am an angry Citizen)

Connor S.
11-17-2007, 10:27 AM
Yes... zis is good! now we more people to help think things over! We dont need to lynch SM! I think PCR is next on Chaucers list. his "ORLY, 4" remasrk is pretty strange to me. meh. what do you all think?

CatWoman
11-17-2007, 10:32 AM
Why is SM so suspicious? I'd like to know, so I can see if my vote should be changed.Apparently he's suspicious because a dead guy who's being used as a tent pole was 87% sure he's a PMer. :roll: But I think he's a goner, and that's why I voted to burn him. I sure hope he turns out to be evil!

Connor S.
11-17-2007, 10:34 AM
Christian! he isnt a goner anymore! unless your a witch, stop helping the mafia! Some poeple have unvoted! If your not sure that hes mfai, nows your chance to unvote!

SpaceManiac
11-17-2007, 11:32 AM
I could only just get on right now. Apparently I almost was lynched, but thank you! I'll go back and tally the votes in a moment.

CatWoman
11-17-2007, 11:34 AM
Unvote. Let's try to find some better evidence next time.

I think PCR is next on Chaucers list. his "ORLY, 4" remasrk is pretty strange to me. meh. what do you all think?I already mentioned that I thought PCR was suspicious. But you defended him when I posted. What's up with that?

Mossysox
11-17-2007, 11:39 AM
What is going on???? Why are all you people voting to lynch someone when you clearly don't think you have any reason to do so?
I guess I will VOTE: SpaceManiac, but I don't see why. :?:
Why is SM so suspicious? I'd like to know, so I can see if my vote should be changed.
Julian, this is either super-fantastic reckless or very nearly the most suspicious thing a person could do, short of posting 'I'm a witch, please burn me!'. It's eight votes to lynch - so the witches and their wizard only need four frightened townies to go along with them, and we're one townie down.
People, I realize that quoting Jamul from the last game may not convince you, given that he was Mafia, but what he said then is right: if you rush into lynching somebody on Day 1, the chances are, you'll lynch a townie.
Right now, the people who seem the most suspicious to me are the ones rushing to lynch SpaceManiac.You can't all be witches, there are too many of you. But this guy is looking way too keen to me:-
How much to lynch?
3 votes left. Come one people, let's cook some stake with a side of witch.
That will taste good, but who hasn't voted yet?
And what does he say when Connor notices how over-eager he's being?
I just want the day to be over so we can see whoever the cop inspected is Scum. Is that bad?? I dont think so
Coolguy has already pointed out that secrecy is an important part of the cop's role, but this looks like an attempt to persuade the cop to go ahead and tell us who they inspected last night. And 'just wanting the day to be over' is not a townie's reason for voting. Witches might want the day to end quickly, so that they can get on with killing people, but townies don't.
And this just looks like a bad guy trying to cover his tracks:-
I will follow and Unvote. (I am just following what they are saying. I just am a follower, not a leader in here. Leader is not a role that I know of. I am an angry Citizen)
I am very close to voting for Ufo-Man but I'd like to hear from DuckOnion, Diginova or ElMikkino first, seeing as they haven't posted yet today. Lurkers are every bit as likely to be witches as reckless voters.

Coolguy
11-17-2007, 11:41 AM
And don't forget Justin- He only posted a ''Hello''.

Julian
11-17-2007, 11:43 AM
I have a feeling Ufo isn't mafia, Mossysox, but I understand your reasoning. He is a new player though. Anyway, unvote -- the reason for the bandwagon was, in fact pretty stupid.

Connor S.
11-17-2007, 11:44 AM
I dont have the qualms Mossy deos, I will vote to burn: Ufo man why? because of course!

Way to eager to get SM lynched. I agree, we need more evedince! grrr.... And then, he could be trying to coax the cop out. Plus, the godfather SI inexperienced. and ufo is still inexpwerienced. For ME at least, this is mroe evedince then just a PM... so I will urge you all to vote him!

Ufo-Man
11-17-2007, 11:45 AM
Ok, Sorry, But I am a Noob(this will most likely be said that i am covering myself) And Also, I am An Angry Citizen.

Coolguy
11-17-2007, 11:47 AM
Plus, the godfather SI inexperienced. and ufo is still inexpwerienced. For ME at least, this is mroe evedince then just a PM...

Not necessarily- Godfathers can easily fake ignorance.

I want to hear from the lurkers before voting.

Connor S.
11-17-2007, 11:49 AM
Yes, lets hear from the lurkers. I will also still stand by my vote, BUT NO OTHER TOWNIES VOTE FOR UFO. yet. wait until the lurkers come. now we know if anyone DOES vote for ufo, they are a witch! so lurkers, speak up!

Wesley
11-17-2007, 11:49 AM
SpaceManiac watched the votes tally up in horror. He was about to be burned at the stake! However, one by one, a few people unvoted, and he sighed in relief. However, he continued to look at the amount of votes left, and a scared expression came over his face... At the same time, Ufo-Man looked at the board with just slight worry. It was only one vote, how bad could it get?


SpaceManiac - 4 (Chaucer, Justin, Regen, PCR)
Ufo-Man - 1 (Connor S.)

P.S. Sorry for the late tally.

Ufo-Man
11-17-2007, 11:54 AM
I am getting worried that I will be lynched for being unexperienced.

Connor S.
11-17-2007, 11:56 AM
Heh. Dont worry. no one else will vote you, until the lurkers speak up. until then, your safe. Once they do however, and if we get more evedince... BURN HIM! :p

CatWoman
11-17-2007, 11:57 AM
I'd like to hear from DuckOnion:p That's funny!

I mostly agree with you, Mossy, but I think Ufo-Man is just acting like a newbie. Right now I'm wondering about Connor S and PCR in that order.

Julian
11-17-2007, 11:57 AM
Connor voted UFO - but didn't unvote. His vote should stay with SM.

Ufo-Man
11-17-2007, 11:58 AM
Thank You Christian

Connor S.
11-17-2007, 11:59 AM
So? I then said that if any one else voted Ufo, they would be witches, trying to bandwagon on that. it was a trap!

Anyways, why am I at the top of your list christyian? just curious, because there is no reason.

And julian- wha? so? meh. Im not suspicouas right now.

We need to wait for the lurkers!

Also- now thast my trap is out of the bag, I will unvote

(but man this day is LONG)

EDIT: Julain edited his post, and I understand it now. I DID unvote, but earlier. check it out.

Ufo-Man
11-17-2007, 12:08 PM
Come on! I want this day to end so I can see who is mafia/Witch!

Connor S.
11-17-2007, 12:10 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Suspicous psot.

Ufo-Man
11-17-2007, 12:15 PM
Sorry I dont want to keep repeating myself,so look at post #68

Connor S.
11-17-2007, 12:18 PM
Your saying your inexperienced to cover your tracks! goodness! just because your a new player, doesn't mean your not mafia! We need to forget that bhes a new player, and start looking at him as a player, if we want to see any real evedince.

chaucer
11-17-2007, 12:18 PM
Okay, I have been convinced.

Unvote ; Vote: Ufo-Man

CatWoman
11-17-2007, 12:21 PM
So? I then said that if any one else voted Ufo, they would be witches, trying to bandwagon on that. it was a trap!That's just silly. He's obviously a newbie, so why did you vote at all before finding out his style of posting? Saying it was a trap makes no sense.

Anyways, why am I at the top of your list christyian? just curious, because there is no reason.See above ... and below.

As I said earlier, you defended PCR when I said I was suspicious of him, then later you decided you were suspicious of him. That makes me wonder. It sounds like you don't really care who gets burned as long as it happens so you can get to your night kill -- assuming you're a witch, of course. Just MO. ;)

Connor S.
11-17-2007, 12:26 PM
Thats assuming I'm a witch, which Im not. A witch that is. Im not a witch though, which is true, because which is true? me NOT ebing a witch of course!

Anyways... Why are you so intent on incriminating my Christian? hmmm.... anyways, and Cahucer, you fell into my trap! :evil: I now think you might be a witch. which witch though, I am unsure of which.

Ufo-Man
11-17-2007, 12:32 PM
lol, Connor is playing around

diginova
11-17-2007, 12:32 PM
Wow, a day and already 80 posts.

I think SM has a PMing role, or he could have received some additional news from Wes.

If he does have a power role, chances are he'll die tonight.
Most of the voters were just bandwagon-jumpers, which doesn't help the town but doesn't make them suspicious.

I'll probably have limited access until Tuesday.

- digitalsupernova

Justin
11-17-2007, 01:09 PM
I'm still sticking with SM still. Just because ufo-man is new at mafia doesn't make him mafia.

Wesley
11-17-2007, 01:17 PM
Mrs.Medium edited the votes, and placed the tally sheet on Roland's frozen outstretched arm, next to some books, cat accessories, and other various items.

"It's too bad we couldn't save Roland," Mrs.Medium said, "But he sure is handy as a bookshelf!"

SpaceManiac - 3 (Justin, Regen, PCR)
Ufo-Man 1 - (Chaucer)

Ufo-Man
11-17-2007, 01:21 PM
Now what is happening?
That is sad about Roland

PlasmaCannonsRule
11-17-2007, 01:24 PM
PCR is quite a bit more active than normal- He might be a townie for once, or he's once again a Mafia and has changed his tactics now that he's been getting lynched for hiding.

No. I just have more time on my hands.

EDIT: Since he's no longer a goner, Unvote: SpaceManiac.

CheeseLord
11-17-2007, 01:32 PM
Ufo is acting rather oddly, but then, having seen him play last game, that doesn't mean too much. I'm really not sure what to think about SM. Also, from the way things have been worded, I think the wizard is most likely a SK. Of course, that would mean that either there is a successful doctor, the wizard doesn't get a kill every night, or the wizard and witches targeted the same person.

CatWoman
11-17-2007, 08:30 PM
Wow! Before CheeseLord posted nearly seven hours ago, there were a ton of posts in this thread. I wonder why it has been silent since then??

Anyway, after having thought it over every way I can, I am going to Vote: Connor S. You can see my reasons six or seven posts prior to this one. Right now I find him and PCR the most suspicious, but I'm voting for Connor first since he doesn't seem to care if an innocent citizen gets burned. As I've said before, I could be wrong. But I hope not! :???:

CheeseLord
11-17-2007, 08:55 PM
I tend to have that effect on people. I don't know why.
Anyway, I don't really see any reason Wesley would have for not quoting the role PM, as I am also an angry citizen, and it's a role with no special powers. At least, it is in my case. I suppose there is a chance that the roles have the same name but different powers, but that seems unlikely. I still don't know who to vote, however, so I won't.

CatWoman
11-17-2007, 09:02 PM
I can see one good reason for not quoting the role PMs. It's a pain!

He would have to go into his sent PMs, copy a portion, say what he wanted, paste that porton, etc., all the while being careful his [quote] and [ /quote ] were in the right place. I absolutely hate it when I need to quote from more than one source.

Mossysox
11-18-2007, 02:16 AM
Ufo is acting rather oddly, but then, having seen him play last game, that doesn't mean too much. I'm really not sure what to think about SM. Also, from the way things have been worded, I think the wizard is most likely a SK. Of course, that would mean that either there is a successful doctor, the wizard doesn't get a kill every night, or the wizard and witches targeted the same person.

Yes, that's very clear from the role PM, but it wasn't quite so plain from what Wesley said at the start of the thread - and I did wonder if somebody might have been persuaded to start talking about the Wizard as if he was the GF from what I'd said in my last post, through not realizing that townies knew about the distinction. So much for my attempt at being sneaky!

For completeness' sake, the fact that only one of us died last Night might also mean that we have a bullet-proof townie amongst us, or a bus-driver, who equally conveniently swapped the would-have-been second victim with Roland. This last though seems pretty unlikely to me, since it implies having enough experience to know to protect the person protected, but insufficient experience to appreciate Roland's strengths as a townie (or to realize that it was worth waiting to see how Roland was playing before putting him in the firing line).

I'm also finding it very interesting that there were so few posts overnight (from my perspective) - especially since there are still three votes standing against SpaceManiac.
There really is no evidence against SpaceManiac, except that Roland was very confident that he was a PMer - but that could make him the doctor, the cop, a witch, the wizard, a mason, a bus-driver, or even somebody's sibling. Enough reason to ask for SpaceManiac to be inspected, yes; to lynch him, no. Yet Justin has posted to say that his vote will stand, and PCR and Regen have remained silent - PCR having voted in the first place because SpaceManiac seemed to be 'a goner', and Regen offering no reason at all.
Which makes each one of them a very strong candidate for being a witch - and if Regen is a witch (or the wizard), you have an explanation for Roland's death. Just remind yourselves who Regen blamed for his lynching in Game #24. Of course, he could be being framed - but nobody's forced him to vote for SpaceManiac, or to leave that vote standing.

But I am still not voting, until we hear from our remaining two lurkers.

Mr.Onion
11-18-2007, 04:01 AM
Well, you've heard from one of them.

Just one thing: The bus driver wouldn't have caused only 1 kill.

Also, anybody that keeps their vote on SpaceManiac is very suspiscious, although I also find Ufo-Man to be suspiscious from overusing "I'm a newbie!"

Connor S.
11-18-2007, 06:03 AM
CHRISTIAN! WHY! Why are you voting me? Your contridicting yourself now! You vote me, then two popsts later, say PCR and regen are suspicous! and I had unvoted spacemaniac! I was the one who got everyone to unvote him in the first place! :( Inspect me tonight, and you will see, I AM TOWNIE! but I think our inspection would be better used on SM. Anyways, I just ask you to unvote.

regeneratorizer
11-18-2007, 06:09 AM
say PCR and regen are suspicous!

*Wakes up* Wha-huh?

CatWoman
11-18-2007, 06:21 AM
CHRISTIAN! WHY! Why are you voting me? Your contridicting yourself now! You vote me, then two popsts later, say PCR and regen are suspicous!What are you talking about? The only post I made after my vote was regarding quoting PMs. I am not contradicting myself, and I have said nothing at all about Regen. Where are you getting this stuff??

Julian
11-18-2007, 08:37 AM
CHRISTIAN! WHY! Why are you voting me? Your contridicting yourself now! You vote me, then two popsts later, say PCR and regen are suspicous! and I had unvoted spacemaniac! I was the one who got everyone to unvote him in the first place! :( Inspect me tonight, and you will see, I AM TOWNIE! but I think our inspection would be better used on SM. Anyways, I just ask you to unvote.
That 'inspect me' trick is only making you more suspicious. But I won't vote you yet. I'll wait.

Ufo-Man
11-18-2007, 09:12 AM
Now come on, this day has lasted for around 4 days! When will day end? A week? A month? We need to get some mafia!

Mr.Onion
11-18-2007, 09:14 AM
Vote: Ufo-Man. This whole charade of "We need to lynch someone!" "I'm a n00b!" "I can't possibly be mafia!!!111!!!oneone!" has gone on long enough.

Ufo-Man
11-18-2007, 09:20 AM
Hey, I just want this day to end, it has lasted forever!

CheeseLord
11-18-2007, 09:31 AM
I agree that the day is lasting a long time, but the fact is, we aren't sure who is mafia, and we'd like to avoid burning a townie.

Wesley
11-18-2007, 09:37 AM
As several people were discussing about how long today was, Mrs.Medium edited the votes again. Suddenly, she heard a faint, but distinct "CLUNK" off somewhere in the distance.

"They must be approaching the basement..." Mrs. Medium said to herself.

One of the citizens looked over at her.

"Hm? What did you say?" The person eyed her suspiciously.

"Oh, nothing." Mrs. Medium replied.

SpaceManiac - 2 (Justin, Regen)
Ufo-Man - 2 (Chaucer, Mr.Onion)
Connor S. - 1 (Christian)

CatWoman
11-18-2007, 09:38 AM
Now come on, this day has lasted for around 4 days! When will day end? A week? A month? We need to get some mafia!Have you voted??

EDIT: I guess not. Wesley was posting as I was.

Ufo-Man
11-18-2007, 09:48 AM
Ok... I will try to be quiet so people wont get ideas about me...

Coolguy
11-18-2007, 10:44 AM
UFO Man is being quite defensive, though that seemed to be how he acted last game.

Y'know, VOTE: Regen. He's hiding- He's only posted to hop on the SpaceManiac vote and the ''Wha-Huh?'' post after he was called suspicious (and in that post he still didn't unvote). Not to mention that I'm not sure Regen would be so careless about his vote. :p

Whoever is our cop should probably inspect SpaceManiac, and PCR or UFO the next.

Ufo-Man
11-18-2007, 10:48 AM
Finally. We got a vote that has some evidence Vote: Regen

Mossysox
11-18-2007, 11:13 AM
I need to apologize to PCR - in my last post, I hadn't noticed that he removed his vote from SpaceManiac, so: sorry PCR.
I'm still finding it difficult to choose between Ufo-Man and Connor S.. They've both been behaving suspiciously, but they're probably not both witches.
But I do agree with Coolguy about Regen - no surprise there, given what I said earlier. I suppose it's possible that Regen could be vote-controlled, given that we started on Night, but that doesn't explain the hiding. I just don't think that's Regen's style. So I'm going to VOTE: Regen.
And I'd like to add Justin's name to the cop's inspection list, after SpaceManiac, and Ufo-Man please, because of his voting behaviour, too. (I'm not saying I don't think PCR should be inspected; I just think Justin should be a higher priority.)

regeneratorizer
11-18-2007, 11:53 AM
Oh, so we're not beating up on poor Spacemaniac anymore? Meh, UNVOTE!

To be honest with you, I'm not really paying attention to the game.

Wesley
11-18-2007, 11:59 AM
Mrs. Medium made the changes necessary to the list, and posted it again.

Regen - 3 (Coolguy, Ufo-Man, Mossysox)
Ufo-Man - 2 (Chaucer, Mr.Onion)
SpaceManiac - 1 (Justin)
Connor S. - 1 (Christian)

CatWoman
11-18-2007, 12:29 PM
I will unvote Connor (for now) and Vote: Regen. Coolguy's post made sense to me.

Ufo-Man
11-18-2007, 12:41 PM
Come on, Justin, Chaucer, Mr. Onion! We need you!!

PlasmaCannonsRule
11-18-2007, 12:53 PM
Er, why are we all voting Regen?

Coolguy
11-18-2007, 12:56 PM
Y'know, VOTE: Regen. He's hiding- He's only posted to hop on the SpaceManiac vote and the ''Wha-Huh?'' post after he was called suspicious (and in that post he still didn't unvote). Not to mention that I'm not sure Regen would be so careless about his vote. :p


That's why.

Ufo-Man
11-18-2007, 12:58 PM
Now come On! Vote! We now got proof!

regeneratorizer
11-18-2007, 01:10 PM
I don't mind you all voting me; but remember this, UFO: Proof is not proof if the theory it backs up is untrue.... Or is it? I dunno, I don't feel like searching for the definition of proof.

CheeseLord
11-18-2007, 01:21 PM
I find Ufo's behavior rather odd, as he doesn't seem all that good at being a townie, but then I suppose I've never been the best either. At any rate, CG makes a logical point, so I suppose I will Vote: Regen.

Wesley
11-18-2007, 01:28 PM
As the votes tallied up, SpaceManiac, Ufo-Man, and Connor S. let out a sigh. However, it was now Regen's turn to worry.

Regen - 5 (Coolguy, Ufo-Man, Mossysox, Christian, Cheeselord)
Ufo-Man - 2 (Chaucer, Mr.Onion)
SpaceManiac - 1 (Justin)

"3 more votes to a lynch, er, burn at the stake." Mrs. Medium announced.

SpaceManiac
11-18-2007, 02:01 PM
Looking at the evidence, I agree that regenoratizer is looking pretty suspicious. Vote: Regen

Julian
11-18-2007, 02:13 PM
Regen is suspicious. I'll VOTE: Regeneratorizer, even though he is likely town.

Ufo-Man
11-18-2007, 02:23 PM
Come on! 1 More to lynch and this day shall finally end!

Wesley
11-18-2007, 03:09 PM
"One more vote until Regen is burned at the stake." Mrs.Medium stated.

"I just said that." A citizen said.

Regen looked at the votes in horror. One more would seal his fate, and burn him to a crisp.

Regen - 7 (Coolguy, Ufo-Man, Mossysox, Christian, Cheeselord, SpaceManiac, Julian)

Ufo-Man - 2 (Chaucer, Mr.Onion)

SpaceManiac - 1 (Justin)

P.S. Votes are now coloured depending on how close you are to being killed.

chaucer
11-18-2007, 03:10 PM
Sorry, Unvote; Vote: Regeneratorizer

I've been kinda busy. Oh yeah, and it's hard to type after placing your hand flat out on a 400 degree burner. Yeah.

Ufo-Man
11-18-2007, 03:16 PM
Regen is now lynched
I think that means no talking.

Wesley
11-18-2007, 05:25 PM
Final Votes of Day 1

Regen - 7 (Coolguy, Ufo-Man, Mossysox, Christian, Cheeselord, SpaceManiac, Julian)

Ufo-Man - 2 (Chaucer, Mr.Onion)

SpaceManiac - 1 (Justin)
_________________

"No!" Regen exclaimed.

"Yes!" Shouted the people who voted for him.

"Meh." said the people who didn't vote for him, or didn't vote at all.

"It looks like you're first to be burned at the stake." Mrs. Medium said, looking at Regeneratorizer. Regen backed away.

"But I'm not a witch! Aw, can't I be turned to stone instead, like Roland?" Regen asked, pointing at the frozen tent pole.

"No." Answered a citizen. "I've been waiting all day for someone to be burned at the stake, not be changed into a rock!"

The citizens grabbed Regen, and tied him to a stake. They then threw piles of wood on the ground under him, and lit it on fire. As the wood started to burn, people gathered around the stake. As Regen burned to death, a slip of paper fell to the ground.

"Can someone else get it?" Called Mrs. Medium, who was strangely facing the opposite direction of the flaming pile. A citizen picked it up, and sighed.

"Was that a sigh of relief, or a sad sigh?" A person asked.

"Look for yourself." She held it up, and it read "Angry Citizen".

A ripple of disappointment and guilt ran throughout the crowd. Suddenly, another slip of paper fell to the floor. The same person that had picked up the other piece picked up the new scrap.

"What does it say?" Another person said, leaning forward.

"I told you so. I told you so. I told you so." She read aloud.

"Maybe we'll have better luck tomorrow." Another citizen said, as various people walked off to their homes.

Meanwhile...

CLUNK! CLUNK! The man who had be sheltered in Mrs.Medium's house, and the cat with bright golden eyes, had been walking down a secret passageway, hidden in the house. The passage was very, very hard to move down. There was fallen debris everywhere, and every now and then, the hiding person had to move aside various things to let the cat through.

"What is this place? Didn't that woman say she had just gotten here tonight to rest? How did she know about this place?" He asked.

The golden eyed cat looked back at him, as if to say, "I'm a cat. I can't talk." Finally, they came to a large door. The man tried to open it, but it was stuck. Suddenly, he looked around, and found that the cat has vanished.

"How..." He started to say, when the cat appeared with a key in her mouth, that was oddly shaped like a mouse. The confused man looked down, and saw that there was some sort of opening in the bottom of the door, that was just big enough for the cat to get through, and he looked up, and found a keyhole.

"Oh... I see." He realized. He took the key from the cat, and opened the door. It made a long creaking sound, that echoed throughout the entire chamber. As the man stepped inside the room, the phase, "In the dark" came to mind for many reasons.

NIGHT 2

Alive Players:

Chaucer
CheeseLord
Christian
Connor S.
Coolguy
diginova
ducklegion
ElMikkino
Julian
Justin
Mossysox
PlasmaCannonsRule
SpaceManiac
Ufo-Man

Not-so-alive Players:

Roland - Tent Poled, Night 1 - Angry Citizen
Regeneratorizer - Burned at the Stake, Day 1 - Angry Citizen

regeneratorizer
11-18-2007, 05:50 PM
Haldo, people! Apparently, I get a last gasp!

So... That means, I can say things from beyond the grave! Possibly helpful things. But, I can only use this last gasp once, so I'd better make it good. And helpful. For the rest of the townies. Or maybe the witches, if I so choose. Though, Hammered would get mad at me again. The point is: This last gasp might as well not be here, because it ain't helpful at all.

Wesley
11-19-2007, 02:35 PM
“You’re taking too long! Hurry up!” The manager cried. “Our grand re-opening is only days away!”

A maid and a couple other servants were cleaning Hotel Horrible, from top to bottom. “Did they really have to re-name this place, “Hotel Horrible”?” The maid asked. “It doesn’t really feel welcoming.”

One of the other servants sighed. “Tell me about it. I thought after what happened here last year, they would try to make this place seem happier, instead of gloomier.”

The maid stopped cleaning, and looked at the servant who had just spoken. “What happened here last year?”

The other servant, who had not said anything yet, stepped forward. “Around a year ago, strange things were happening in this hotel.”

The maid looked confused. “But strange things are still happening in this hotel!”

The servant picked up a vase, and started cleaning the bottom of it. “Stranger things were happening in this hotel. Anyway, at one point a person was even killed by something that was roaming the hallways.”

The maid looked around nervously. “Killed?”

The servant paused cleaning the vase briefly to give the maid a reassuring smile. “Don’t worry. THE CREATURE, I mean, The Creature that did it was caught, and…” The servant thought for a minute. “Actually… Nobody knows what happened to it…”

The maid was silent for a minute, but then asked, “How could they capture something like that?”

The other servant who was just standing there started to explain. “A mysterious spirit medium came here. Her name was… Uh… Oh! Mrs. Medium! She helped the guests find and capture The Creature, and the mafia group who just happened to be staying there. She also went into a trance a couple of times, and when one of the guests died due to an unfortunate night attack, she could tell the guests what he wanted to say!”

The maid looked skeptical, but at the same time interested. “Really…”

“Really.” The servant said.

“Really.” The servant who was cleaning the vase added.

“Really?”

The three servants spun around to see the manager, who was looking at them with an annoyed gaze.

“Are you really talking about spooky stories instead of cleaning the hotel? Enough! I didn’t want to have to do this, but in order for any work to be done, I’m going to have to watch you do it! Mark!” He pointed at the servant carrying the vase. “I need you to clean the lobby.”

“Yes…” Mark replied, and walked downstairs, just far enough that the manager could still see him.

“Mike!” He pointed at the servant who told the maid about Mrs.Medium. “I need to clean the upstairs hallway!”

“Yes…” Mike replied, and walked upstairs, just far enough that the manager could still see him.

“Lisa! I need you to go to the basement, and clean it!”

Lisa looked astonished. “All of it?!” She pointed at Mark and then Mike. “How come they only get a room, and I get a whole floor?!”

“I’m going to have to watch them the entire time. You’re still new to this place, but I trust you more then I trust them, unless you’d like to work up here as well?”

Lisa thought for a moment. She hated the thought of cleaning a whole floor, but she hated the thought of being barked at by the manager more. “Okay, I’ll go downstairs.” She sped downstairs before should could hear any more of the manager’s rough, loud voice.

She looked around. The basement was a dark, creepy place. The entire area looked like a maze. She wandered around, dusting everything she could find, until finally she heard a sound, coming from around the corner. She looked around, and found nothing, until she looked down at the ground.
Just in front of her, there was a small, black cat, with golden eyes. Lisa bent over to pet it, but it quickly moved out of her reach. It walked down the hallway.

“Hey, Come back! I won’t hurt you!” Lisa called out, but the cat kept walking away. She thought she might as well follow it, and she tried to catch up to the cat, cleaning the walls as she did. Suddenly, the cat stopped in front of an unnumbered door.

“Hm? It’s like…she wants me to go inside…” Lisa opened the door. The room was empty, except for a torch that was attached to the wall.

“A torch? There hasn't been torches around here for hundreds of years...” Lisa said. The cat walked up to the wall, and sat there, staring at Lisa with it’s golden eyes. Lisa stepped forward, but tripped. Just in time, she grabbed the very bottom of the torch, and it moved to the side, revealing a box. Once she got up, she looked inside.

Inside of the box, there was a big, dusty, book. She wiped some of the dust off with her feather duster, and the words “Witchcraft” were visible. Curious, she looked inside of it.
__________________________________________________ ________

As everyone was getting up in the morning, and walking toward Town Square, everyone saw two figures. Instantly, there was an enormous explosion, and smoke covered the entire area. By the time it cleared, nobody was there. The entire area had been vaporized, so now it was more like a Town Circle. As they got closer, they realized that one of the figures had been Julian, as everyone else (Except for the frozen Roland, and the scorched Regen) was there. A slip of paper fell on the ground, and Mrs. Medium read it.

"Revengeful Survivor" She read out loud. "Hmm... It appears Julian was only pretending to be a citizen."

"Why would he do that?" A citizen asked.

"I'm guessing that he tried to blend in here, surprise the Evil Wizard, and then get his revenge." Mrs. Medium replied. "But the Evil Wizard must have found him first..." She trailed off.

Everyone looked sad. While Julian wasn't exactly on their side, he wasn't against them. Eventually, they started to discuss who to burn at the stake next, as the sun rose.

DAY 2

Alive Players:

Chaucer
CheeseLord
Christian
Connor S.
Coolguy
diginova
ducklegion
ElMikkino
Justin
Mossysox
PlasmaCannonsRule
SpaceManiac
Ufo-Man

Not-so-alive Players:

Roland - Tent Poled, Night 1 - Angry Citizen
Regeneratorizer - Burned at the Stake, Day 1 - Angry Citizen
Julian - Vaporized, Night 2 - Revengeful Survivor (3rd party)

7 Votes for a burn at the stake.

Ufo-Man
11-19-2007, 03:05 PM
Well, That is 1 good thing and 1 bad thing:
Good thing: We got somebody from the 3rd party
Bad Thing: We voted off 1 of our own.

SpaceManiac
11-19-2007, 03:07 PM
I certainly agree.

Julian
11-19-2007, 03:15 PM
What the heck?!?! Why was I killed? ANyway. I was a survivor AND a cop. UFO-man and Connor are both townies. Don't kill them. And neither of them are the GF, if they were they would have died. Darn, I wanted to keep going. Anyway, the mafia probably have a cop, or a very experienced or new GF.

SpaceManiac
11-19-2007, 03:22 PM
Dang! We lost a cop. This stinks.

Ufo-Man
11-19-2007, 03:26 PM
Well, Now Everyone knows I am a townie.
So please stop thinking I am suspicious.
I am Just a NOOB.

Coolguy
11-19-2007, 03:41 PM
Ugh, that was unlucky. It's odd that a survivor would have cop powers (although it seemed like he also had to kill the evil wizard in addition to survive, according to Wes' post, so it seems likely). At least we have 2 people confirmed good.

Still, some odd things:
1) The wizard probably has some sort of inspecting power too (or is insanely lucky). I can't imagine him (or her!) being lucky enough to find his/her lyncher this early.
2) Where is the 2nd kill!?!? Assuming Julian's death was caused by the wizard, the witches did not kill anybody last night. Maybe they each only kill people on even/odd nights?

Ufo-Man
11-19-2007, 03:45 PM
Wesley tell us!

CatWoman
11-19-2007, 04:34 PM
I would guess the witches don't have the power to kill since there's been only one death per night. Of course, it could be that the wizard doesn't have the power to kill, I don't know. Has anything been posted about that? It would be a pretty broken game if two townies per night could be killed.

Coolguy
11-19-2007, 04:45 PM
Mrs. Medium replied. "But the Evil Wizard must have found him first..." She trailed off.


The wizard killed Julian, as that quote proves.

And those kinds of games aren't automatically broken, Christian- Serial killers and mafia in the same game can kill each other in addition to townies.

Ufo-Man
11-19-2007, 04:47 PM
That would be funny!
The Witches kill the Wizard!

CheeseLord
11-19-2007, 04:49 PM
I think the wizard and revengeful survivor are probably a pair of linked roles, and had Julian inspected the wizard, both would have become townies or something like that.

ElMikkino
11-19-2007, 04:51 PM
Hi guys! Sorry I've been lurking, but I had to sign the form since I said I was 11. So, I'm back, and ready to kick some mafia butt! Oh, I'm another angry citizen.

Ufo-Man
11-19-2007, 04:51 PM
Maybe.... We will see at the end....

CatWoman
11-19-2007, 04:54 PM
Thanks, Coolguy. I don't think there has been a serial killer in any of the games I've been in, so I didn't know that.

Ufo-Man
11-19-2007, 04:56 PM
We will see If there are unique roles in here....

Coolguy
11-19-2007, 05:03 PM
I don't think so, Cheeselord- Julian said the wizard would die if Julian inspected him.

Ufo-Man
11-19-2007, 05:06 PM
So any Ideas who to lynch?

Connor S.
11-19-2007, 05:28 PM
First- yeay! everyone knows I'm good! Anyways- Perhaps the evil wizrd is the godfather? That would explain why there is always only one kill, but its unlikey. I just thought I'd mention it. Iunno... meh.

CheeseLord
11-19-2007, 05:29 PM
Why are you so eager to burn someone Ufo? That mentality is not productive, and more often than not ends up killing townies.

Ufo-Man
11-19-2007, 06:19 PM
Well I want to find out who is the Wizard and also, I dont want it to last too long like day 1

Connor S.
11-19-2007, 06:24 PM
Ack- Why can't we all get along? We need to get rid of this witch coven! Grrr... this is entirely pointless, because Julian is already dead, but I had a plot PM sent to me last night to confirm his cop ness. Someone came in the middle of the night and broke two of my windows. They also asked me "If I was the evil wizard" and get a no, so I assume this is the inspection thing. so yah, thats proven true. about the rest...

Ufo-Man
11-19-2007, 06:25 PM
Where do you think he was killed?

Connor S.
11-19-2007, 06:28 PM
??? that was random. Who thinks who was killed? huh? :???: wow. utter. confusion.

Coolguy
11-19-2007, 06:32 PM
Wait a second- He only asked about an evil wizard...? Those inspections seem more like wizard-only inspections than actual inspections.

SpaceManiac
11-19-2007, 06:35 PM
I still haven't recieved any Plot PMs. :(

CatWoman
11-19-2007, 07:16 PM
Wait a second- He only asked about an evil wizard...? Those inspections seem more like wizard-only inspections than actual inspections.What are you talking about? Connor's post? If so, I agree with you. And I would guess the wizard would show up as innocent, so what do we really know? :|

Coolguy
11-19-2007, 07:17 PM
I meant that the inspections would only detect if somebody's a wizard or not, not that the wizard would show up as good.

Mossysox
11-20-2007, 05:27 AM
Wait a second- He only asked about an evil wizard...? Those inspections seem more like wizard-only inspections than actual inspections.
It could just be how he did his inspections - Julian seems to have thought he was a cop, rather than a wizard-hunter. And he did seem to know that Connor S. and Ufo-Man are both townies, rather than simply not-the-wizard. Be good if I'm wrong, though, and there's still a cop among us. We could do with some help.

I think the fact that only one of us was killed last night (and on two nights running) pretty much rules out simple luck. It's one thing to suggest that the witches and the wizard might both have targeted Roland (which was itself pretty unlikely), and quite another to say they both went for Julian. Especially when Coolguy's still with us. (Well, with Roland not able to speak up, somebody had to say it! :p) And he's not the only more experienced player still standing - so why pick Julian? I'm going to take another look at the thread, see if I've missed something.

Glad to have you with us, ElMikkino - my fingers were hovering over the v-o-t-e keys, since you'd seemed to be lurking.:lol:

Perhaps the evil wizrd is the godfather? That would explain why there is always only one kill, but its unlikey. I just thought I'd mention it. Iunno... meh.
Take another look at your role PM, Connor: I think the third and fourth sentences make it very clear that the Wizard isn't the GF.

Oh, and Ufo-Man? Days in mafia often last longer than 24 hours. Racing to lynch someone without looking for evidence will only cost us another townie - and you can see how hard it is to get it right, through losing Regen on Day 1.

ElMikkino
11-20-2007, 05:34 AM
This is all getting kinda complicated...I won't be posting until someone has a good theory of who is mafia. I only have one thing to say to the witches and the wizard:

Why can't we be friends, why can't we be-*zapped, but comes back to life*

Coolguy
11-20-2007, 07:45 AM
After looking through the thread, I'm considering voting UFO Man.

1) He's extremely eager to make an immediate lynch without letting us have any discussion or change our minds about lynches. He didn't do this at all last game, when he was a townie.

2) His only argument in his favor is that he's new at this, and he overemphasizes his claim as an Angry Citizen.

3) I still think Julian's inspections only detect if somebody's a wizard or not- It seems pretty unlikely that a survivor who's goal is to kill the wizard will have anti-witch powers. Not to mention that Julian clearly didn't read his PM very well, because he thought the wizard was a GF. Him being inspected by Julian does not make him good.

4) He tried to pass the blame for voting SM to the other voters by claiming to be just a follower. :p

5) He keeps on hinting about unique roles, oddly.

I'd like to hear what the rest of you think before voting, though.

Mossysox
11-20-2007, 07:59 AM
I think it would be very helpful if Wesley could post Julian's role PM at this point. I have more to say than that, but it can wait.

chaucer
11-20-2007, 08:00 AM
Actually, I do agree with Coolguy, especially on point 1.

Ufo-Man
11-20-2007, 09:09 AM
Ok... Now we need evidence... Wait!!!! You are voting me! I am telling you I am not mafia!!! If a noob like me were picked, then it would not be a balenced game! And Wesley Does not make unbalenced games!!

Wesley
11-20-2007, 09:42 AM
Here is Julian's role:

__________________________________________________ ___________
You are the sole survivor of a village that was just a month ago a thriving community. However, an evil wizard came to your peaceful town, and turned everyone to stone. Consumed by revenge, you set out to find the Evil Wizard once again, and make him/her pay. Your search leads you to the town of Grim Grove. This place must be the next target. You hear of a coven terrorizing the entire area, but you’re so focused on the Evil Wizard, you don’t really care about it. You find an angry mob, and you try to blend in…

YOUR GOALS:

SURVIVE UNTIL THE END OF THE GAME
DESTROY THE EVIL WIZARD (Ether by lynch or night inspection/kill)

If you die, but you manage to take out the wizard before then, you still win, just not completely. If you survive, but the wizard is still alive, you also win, but not completely. To fully win, you must defeat the Evil Wizard, and survive.

YOUR POWERS:

INSPECT/KILL (Semi-Cop Power, or if you find the Evil Wizard, SK Power)

You can act against a target every night. However, you’re not evil, so if the person you target is not the Evil Wizard, you will just let them go. However, if you find the Evil Wizard one night, you’ll be sure he/she gets what they deserve…
__________________________________________________ _________
I didn't mention this, but the goals you have do matter. Depending on what happens at the end of the game, and how many goals you complete, you will be awarded a small about of YB. (Keep in mind though, it's small. Don't expect 50 YB, or anything.) Prizes are fun!

Ufo-Man
11-20-2007, 09:49 AM
See, It shows that He is a real Cop/Skitzo!
So that means I am not a wizard.

Wesley
11-20-2007, 10:03 AM
YOUR POWERS:

INSPECT/KILL (Semi-Cop Power, or if you find the Evil Wizard, SK Power)

You can act against a target every night. However, you’re not evil, so if the person you target is not the Evil Wizard, you will just let them go. However, if you find the Evil Wizard one night, you’ll be sure he/she gets what they deserve…


I'm not on any side, but I'm going to clarify that Julian was not a normal cop. When he inspected people, it just showed whether or not they were the Evil Wizard. So, the people who were inspected could be a witch or a citizen, but Julian didn't find out ether, just that they weren't the Evil Wizard.

Ufo-Man
11-20-2007, 10:07 AM
Well, I could only be the wizard since I am a Boy, so I am a townie

Mr.Onion
11-20-2007, 10:18 AM
Even if Ufo-Man is not mafia, he is not helping the town at all, so I will Vote: Ufo-Man!

CatWoman
11-20-2007, 10:23 AM
Well, I could only be the wizard since I am a Boy, so I am a townieYou're obviously confused here. Your being a boy has nothing to do with anything. Anyone can be a witch or the wizard. All we know is that you and Connor S are not the wizard, but either or both of you could be a witch. And I do agree with Mr. O that you're not helping the town, but I'm not ready to vote yet.

Ufo-Man
11-20-2007, 10:23 AM
This is the reason we should lynch somebody10:13 [Jamul]: because it's boring and doesn't move the game along
10:13 [Jamul]: all it is is a free mafia kill. Granted, the lynch is usually a
townie, but at least it learns you something

Jamul
11-20-2007, 10:44 AM
Not to interrupt your game or anything, but NO!

10:01 [Mr.Onion]: WHy are people against Nolynch being allowed?

That was my response to Mr. Onion's question. Obviously, No-Lynch is not an option at this point in the game regardless of anything else, and my comments did not pertain to this game in ANY WAY. I was simply answering why I thought No-Lynch was not a good thing to offer in mafia games. The question and the response both did not relate to this game at all.

Please continue your game, ignoring any implication that I was involved.

Ufo-Man
11-20-2007, 10:49 AM
Sorry....

Mossysox
11-20-2007, 11:16 AM
So any Ideas who to lynch?
Yes, I rather think I do...
My only objection to Coolguy's reasoning is point 5. If Ufo-Man is a witch, I don't see why it would make him keep hinting about unique roles. However, that's beside the point, given this:-
Well, I could only be the wizard since I am a Boy, so I am a townie
This looks like bluster, and gender-stereotypical bluster, too, which is pretty much the worst kind as far as I'm concerned. And this is just bizarre:-
This is the reason we should lynch somebody
I wasn't on the chat at the time, so I don't know what Jamul was saying here exactly, but it looks like an argument against the no-lynch option on Day 1. This, as I'm sure nobody needs reminding, is Day 2, so where is the relevance in this post? And I find the 'I'm a newbie, I'm bound to be innocent' tack extremely suspicious, too. I was a mafia in my second game (my first too, but we all were, so that hardly counts), which my team won, so I hardly think having a newbie as one of the mafia makes the game unbalanced. So, yes, I'm going to go along with Coolguy's thinking and Mr.Onion's voting and vote: Ufo-Man.

And while I'm typing, I'd like to add a qualifying comment to my earlier post today. Because it is still possible that both the wizard and the witches are trying to kill people each night. All we need is somebody tenacious enough to keep on targeting a particular player while the doctor persists in protecting him, and bingo, there's your single kill. Luck doesn't really come into it. If our doctor knows otherwise, however, they should probably be extremely careful about saying so, given what happened to Julian: from re-reading the thread, it seems to me that one of the killers amongst us is paying very close attention to detail.

Ah, ninja'd as I type, I see - but I'm going to let this stand anyway.

Wesley
11-20-2007, 11:28 AM
As the sun rose, and everyone searched for items that weren't vaporized in the attack, some people became suspicious of Ufo-Man. Mrs. Medium edited the votes, as she picked up debris from the Town Circle.

Ufo-Man - 2 (Mr.Onion, Mossysox)

CatWoman
11-20-2007, 11:42 AM
Mossy, you're making a lot of sense. Since it has been proven that Julian's inspections simply had to do with whether or not a player was the wizard, both Ufo-Man and Connor are on my list. PCR is still suspicious to me also, but he hasn't said much lately.

Vote: Burn Ufo-Man

chaucer
11-20-2007, 11:47 AM
Vote: Ufo-Man

You know, Ufo, it would be perfectly balanced to have you as a mafia, even though you are a new player. "I am an unexperienced player," and "I am a townie for sure," are two completely different things.

Ufo-Man
11-20-2007, 11:53 AM
Ok... Looks like I am doomed, How many to lynch???
Also, The reason I want this day to end, is so I can Host my own game....
well, do not count this as my last gasp.

Hammered
11-20-2007, 12:08 PM
7 to lynch.

Sincerely, Mrs. Medium

Connor S.
11-20-2007, 12:18 PM
Just got back from school- Im going with the onion, and Coolguy. Ufo is ridiculously suspicous, despite Julians "inspection".

Christian- huff. I will say no more in my defense, except this. Just because I am not GARUNTEED to be a townie, doesn't automatically make me a witch. I see nothing Ive done thats that suspicous really.

Anyways- see first sentence. vote to burn: Ufo Man! that should clean that up nicely.

Ufo-Man
11-20-2007, 12:26 PM
Ok, now 2 more votes for me and I am gone.
Well, I think I can't make everyone unvote me or burn me, so this looks like it is good bye.

ElMikkino
11-20-2007, 01:46 PM
Coolguy's theory seems like a good one to me, and Ufo-Man is kinda getting kinda weird...so...VOTE: Ufo-Man!

CheeseLord
11-20-2007, 01:57 PM
The reason I want this day to end, is so I can Host my own game....
I think Ufo-Man is really not helping the town. He's playing erratically, claiming he is a townie and backing it up with weak reasons, and now he's claimed that he is playing so that he can host. I will have to Vote: Ufo-Man.

Ufo-Man
11-20-2007, 02:09 PM
No that was 1 of the reasons, The other reason is that I want to have fun... But you are all messing it up.
Now I am lynched, unless somebody unvotes me before I am cooked, I am cooked.
Thank you for letting me be cooked...

Connor S.
11-20-2007, 02:15 PM
For all intents and purposes, it is night. no talking.

Wesley
11-20-2007, 03:11 PM
Final Votes for Day 2

Ufo-Man - 7 (Mr.Onion, Mossysox, Christian, Chaucer, Connor S., ElMikkino, Cheeselord)
__________________

"Wow, this day went by fast." One citizen commented.

"That's only because yesterday was so slow." Another person said, as everyone tied Ufo-Man to a stake. He had been oddly silent the entire time. However, as they lit the fire under him, he suddenly raised his head, and shouted, "Viva La Townies!!!!!Death To the Wizard!!!!May I live on in all of your souls!!!!!!" at the crowd. Everyone was surprised by this sudden outburst, even Mrs. Medium, who was facing the opposite direction of the fire again, was startled. After Ufo-Man burned to death, a citizen stepped forward.

"Uh... Does that count as a role-claim?" He said, as a slip of paper fell down onto the ground. He read it.

"Yes, I was an Angry Citizen." It read. The same ripple went through the crowd again, as they had killed an innocent citizen. Mrs. Medium looked through the crowd again. The same person as before was smiling, as if that person thought he/she was winning. The same person looked conflicted, as if they couldn't decide if that were a good thing, or a bad thing. The person looking around the crowd, not paying attention to anything, was dead however, as that had been Julian. As everyone went back to their homes, Mrs. Medium wondered how the man she had saved, and her pet cat, was doing.

Meanwhile...

They opened the door, and stepped into the darkness. As the golden eyed cat could see clearly, the man could not.

"It's so dark in here... What is this place?" He fumbled around in the dark, searching for something to light a torch with, as the cat watched. Suddenly, the man jumped back, and the cat's ears perked up.

"Ouch!" He cried out. "I just touched something that was hot..." He bumped into the thing he touched, and it smashed to the floor. Suddenly, the room flooded with light. Strangely, there was a radius of it. There was a sphere of light in the room, the effected area lit well enough that you could see, but it wasn't too bright. The area outside of the sphere was untouched, and was pitch-black.

"That was strange..." He said. The cat stepped forward, but perked it's ears up again, and looked in a different direction. The person looked at the cat for a moment, but then continued search the room, in the area that was lit up. There were several types of books everywhere, and there were rows and rows of them. There also appeared to be some cat toys, though they were fewer in number. He couldn't see much of the room, as a great part of it was still unlit. He looked across the from the door they had entered, and found another door, though this one looked a great deal more damaged. He walked over to it, but the cat suddenly ran over to him, and stopped in front of the door, as if to say, "No, don't go in there." The man was too curious though, and picked up the cat, and set her aside, just next to the door.

"Don't worry." He said. "I won't be gone long. I know you're supposed to protect me, or something, but if I run into any trouble, I'll come back." He looked at the cat, and had a sudden feeling of sadness, but he couldn't explain to himself why... He walked over, and picked the cat up. He then opened the damaged door, and found another set of stairs. He sighed.

"Great, more stairs to walk up." He said. He started climbing, not noticing the cat had become completely silent, looking at the increasing amounts of debris around them...

NIGHT 3

Alive Players:

Chaucer
CheeseLord
Christian
Connor S.
Coolguy
diginova
ducklegion
ElMikkino
Justin
Mossysox
PlasmaCannonsRule
SpaceManiac

Not-so-alive Players:

Roland - Tent Poled, Night 1 - Angry Citizen
Regeneratorizer - Burned at the Stake, Day 1 - Angry Citizen
Julian - Vaporized, Night 2 - Revengeful Survivor (3rd party)
Ufo-Man - Burned at the Stake, Day 2 - Angry Citizen

Ufo-Man
11-20-2007, 03:31 PM
As the remains went off, A unkown person came up with a message from Ufo-Man
It said "Now, I told you that I was an angry citizen!!!! Now, Next time listen! I am sorry that I was acting stupidly, but As I said before (And I wont try to use this agian) I am A Big Fat Noob!!! I am unexpirienced, And I want you to know that so next mafia game, You don't Think I am mafia!!!! I know if I was not talking, people would say I was "Lurking", But if I talk, they would say that what I said is "Mafia-Like" or "Strange". Please next time listen! I want to live to the end of the game!!!!As I said Before, Viva La Townies!!!!Death To the Wizard!!!!May I live in all of your souls!!!!! Dont make such Stupid Lynches Next time!!!!"
Signed,
Ufo-Man, The non-mafia Angry Citizen.

CatWoman
11-21-2007, 07:13 PM
I'm going to take a chance on being modkilled. I know there's no talking at night. But it has now been more than 24 hours since the last kill. IMO, the host should NOT wait longer than that for PMs in order to post. If you are missing some PMs, Wesley, ignore them. They had their chance. This is really very boring when nothing is happening for more than 24 real hours. Please post something, Wesley! If the wizard didn't PM you, that's his loss. Let's move on.

Wesley
11-22-2007, 05:46 PM
All PMs have now been received. As for a deadline, I suppose you are right. Anyway...
__________________________

Back in Hotel Horrible...

Lisa continued to look through the book.

"This looks like some sort of...record..." She said, as the black cat sat nearby, staring at the maid.

"Witches, Angry Citizens..." She stopped for a second, and giggled to herself.

"None of this can be real... This is probably a prank..." She thought. Suddenly, a soft, but piercing, "MEOW" interrupted her thoughts. She turned around to face the cat, but it was gone. She blinked, and then faced the book again.

"Then again... This is just too interesting to pass up... Let's see..." She continued to read.

Upstairs...

"Faster! I want to be able to see my face in this vase!" The manager barked at Mark.

"If the vase could reflect your face, it would smash into pieces." Mark muttered under his breath.

Mike called out to the manager from the upstairs hallway.

"Where is everyone else? There's lots of staff members here. Why aren't they helping us?" He asked.

The manager called back, "By an extreme coincidence, all 128 staff members called in saying they were sick. You should be glad you're not sick, and well enough to work here!" He yelled.

Mike looked outside, and saw a few of the people he knew worked at Hotel Horrible walking in a park nearby.

"Right. Sick..." He mumbled.

As the manager walked upstairs to check on Mike, Mark looked into the distance, and saw a black cat with golden eyes. It walked into the darkness, through an open doorway that lead to the basement. Mark thought if he went downstairs and claimed to be checking on Lisa, he might not get in trouble. He walked downstairs, following the cat...
______________________________________________

As everyone got up, they remarked how little sleep they had gotten.

"That night seemed to last forever..." One person said.

"All the screaming didn't help, ether." Another person said.

Suddenly, someone screamed.

"More screaming..." The person said, as everyone went to Mrs. Medium's tent to see what was the matter. A lone person was standing there, pointing at the frozen Roland. However, the person who screamed wasn't screaming at him. During the night, someone had thrown Roland at someone, crushing them with the extreme weight. Luckily, not much could be seen, but one thing was for certain. ElMikkino was dead, crushed by Roland's frozen figure.

"Well, it figures. The first time I'm away from my tent since this thing started, someone messes everything up." Mrs. Medium walked onto the scene. "What a shame... It seems every night, someone gets killed. I was looking around last night for information. I found some on ElMikkino, though I'm afraid it won't do much now. He was another Angry Townie." She said.

DAY 3

Alive Players:

Chaucer
CheeseLord
Christian
Connor S.
Coolguy
diginova
Mr. Onion
Justin
Mossysox
PlasmaCannonsRule
SpaceManiac

Not-so-alive Players:

Roland - Tent Poled, Night 1 - Angry Citizen
Regeneratorizer - Burned at the Stake, Day 1 - Angry Citizen
Julian - Vaporized, Night 2 - Revengeful Survivor (3rd party)
Ufo-Man - Burned at the Stake, Day 2 - Angry Citizen
ElMikkino - Crushed to Death, Night 3 - Angry Citizen

6 to lynch.

Connor S.
11-22-2007, 07:14 PM
Interesting. Yes. Well, the best we can make of the situation is that a lurker is gone. meh, what does everyone think?

Coolguy
11-22-2007, 07:34 PM
As the remains went off, A unkown person came up with a message from Ufo-Man
It said "Now, I told you that I was an angry citizen!!!! Now, Next time listen! I am sorry that I was acting stupidly, but As I said before (And I wont try to use this agian) I am A Big Fat Noob!!! I am unexpirienced, And I want you to know that so next mafia game, You don't Think I am mafia!!!! I know if I was not talking, people would say I was "Lurking", But if I talk, they would say that what I said is "Mafia-Like" or "Strange". Please next time listen! I want to live to the end of the game!!!!As I said Before, Viva La Townies!!!!Death To the Wizard!!!!May I live in all of your souls!!!!! Dont make such Stupid Lynches Next time!!!!"
Signed,
Ufo-Man, The non-mafia Angry Citizen.

UFO Man, that wasn't a stupid lynch. You were acting insanely suspicious in every way, and if I'd came around in time yesterday, I'd have voted you, and if something similar happens with somebody in a future game, I'll probably vote for them!

Being new at this game doesn't automatically make you town. Any host that claims that Mafia teams with new players is broken is a broken host themselves!

And... erm... Christian, there's lots of alarms going on in my head about your night post. :shock: Although I agree that the nights should have 24 hour deadlines, why did you specifically say that the wizard has a PM that should be ignored, but you ignore witch ones?

CatWoman
11-22-2007, 10:19 PM
And... erm... Christian, there's lots of alarms going on in my head about your night post. :shock: Although I agree that the nights should have 24 hour deadlines, why did you specifically say that the wizard has a PM that should be ignored, but you ignore witch ones?I'll answer this in a minute.

First, I would like to apologize to everyone for my impatience. I thought 24 hours was the maximum for night rather than the minimum. If I had bothered to check out a few more games I would have known that. I was just being impatient (which any of you who have read my posts over the years have probably figured out).

Now, to answer your question, Coolguy. Here's what I posted on 11/19.
I would guess the witches don't have the power to kill since there's been only one death per night. Of course, it could be that the wizard doesn't have the power to kill, I don't know. Has anything been posted about that? It would be a pretty broken game if two townies per night could be killed.And as you pointed out in answer to that post, the wizard clearly has the ability to kill via night PM. What are the mathematical odds that they would target the same victim each time? I'm guessing that the witches cannot kill for some reason known only to Wesley.

Having said that, I'll add that I am an ordinary citizen of Grim Grove who has lately gotten angry. People, if you are a townie you should know what I'm saying. I invite an inspection if we have a cop left (I'm still confused about Julian). And I ask our doctor to protect me ... for reasons that will become obvious when you read the rest of this post.

Now, I have two suspicions about who the wizard might be. I am more concerned about him than about the witch factor simply because of the kill thing.

Yes, I did say him rather than him/her for the simple reason that my suspicions are between Coolguy and Diginova. Think about it. Wesley has done an excellent job of hosting and providing a fun story, so he obviously knows what he's doing. Would he make the wizard an inexperienced player? I think not. It has been odd that those who were night killed weren't necessarily the most experienced players. But I think that's a blind to make us think the wizard is inexperienced. Coolguy is of course an experienced player, and smart enough to come up with something like this. Digi is the same, and he has also been lurking, which is unlike him.

So ... what do the rest of you think? Coolguy or Diginova? I'm not voting until I get some feedback. But I'm about 95% convinced I know who the wizard is. And I surely would like to get him before he gets me.

Coolguy
11-22-2007, 10:53 PM
So ... what do the rest of you think? Coolguy or Diginova? I'm not voting until I get some feedback. But I'm about 95% convinced I know who the wizard is. And I surely would like to get him before he gets me.

I'd count you and Mossysox on the list as well, actually.

EDIT: Y'know, after re-reading, I VOTE: Christian. Why is she so desperate to get rid of the wizard but not the witch coven!? I personally see the wizard as a lot less of a threat, since he or she has only been killing lurkers (other than Roland). The witches will probably gain killing powers after the wizard is gone, since otherwise there'd be no nightkill, so of course they'd be desperate to get rid of him (Note- I'm just saying 'him' for convenience, even though the person I believe to be a wizard is a 'he'...). Christian has constantly ignored the witches to try and get rid of our only defense from the Mafia having a night kill, not to mention that she refused to leave the SM bandwagon until it was completely dead.

Now, I have two suspicions about who the wizard might be. I am more concerned about him than about the witch factor simply because of the kill thing.


This makes absolutely no sense. How is the experienced-player-killers less of a concern than the lurker killer!?!?

ElMikkino
11-23-2007, 06:00 AM
Suddenly, as everyone was walking away from the tent. They heard a gasp from inside. Someone went in, and he heard ElMikkino say: "I wasn't a lurker. I signed my citizenship form while I was playing, and I couldn't talk. I hope the townies win. I have no major suspicions as of now. I hope I can be more alive next time. Goodbye, Mossysox." ElMikkino then quietly passed away. Mossysox said to everyone: "He's dead." A sadness fell over the town.

PS: I included Mossysox for no reason, I just picked a random citizen.

The light is now here...goodbye, friends...and enemies...

/lastgasp

CatWoman
11-23-2007, 06:20 AM
I VOTE: Christian. Why is she so desperate to get rid of the wizard but not the witch coven!? Christian has constantly ignored the witches to try and get rid of our only defense from the Mafia having a night killI'm not desperate to do anything, sweetie. Check my votes ... every single person I voted for was because I thought he was a witch, not the wizard. So your point is totally silly or an outright lie. And I have no idea what you're talking about with this ... "and get rid of our only defense from the Mafia having a night kill". What are you talking about?

not to mention that she refused to leave the SM bandwagon until it was completely dead.Another lie. I was the fourth person to unvote, and that was less than two hours after the first person unvoted. Check the votes on November 17. There were still people who hadn't unvoted after I did. Also, who says he's a townie anyway?

This makes absolutely no sense. How is the experienced-player-killers less of a concern than the lurker killer!?!?It makes total sense, but what you're saying doesn't. I said the wizard was more of a threat because he can night kill. I wasn't talking about experienced players or lurkers. You are assuming Wesley will give the witches night kill powers if we get the wizard. That didn't cross my mind.

You also said you would put me and Mossy on the list. If you mean a list of experienced players, this is only my third game, so I would hardly call myself experienced.

If everyone will read what I actually said, the citizens will see that I put in a sentence that was a direct quote from my citizen PM. Coolguy missed that entirely, which leads me to believe he is either the wizard or a witch and didn't GET a townie PM. Otherwise he would have recognized the quote. I was debating between Coolguy and Digi ... until now. Coolguy has lied and ignored a quote that proves my innocence. Go back and check your PMs if you don't believe me, townies. Also check the posts I've made and you will see that Coolguy is an outright liar. That's pretty evil in my book. And keep in mind that he led the voting against Regen, an innocent citizen.

Vote: Coolguy

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 06:56 AM
Apparently he's suspicious because a dead guy who's being used as a tent pole was 87% sure he's a PMer. :roll: But I think he's a goner, and that's why I voted to burn him. I sure hope he turns out to be evil!

How is that not refusing to vote!?!? Not to mention that your point about being 4th to unvote is completely idiotic-, because there was only five people voting SM.

It makes total sense, but what you're saying doesn't. I said the wizard was more of a threat because he can night kill. I wasn't talking about experienced players or lurkers. You are assuming Wesley will give the witches night kill powers if we get the wizard. That didn't cross my mind.

There'd be no nightkill at that point, and the witches probably have to get their greatest power (the nightkill) eventually. The mafia never getting a nightkill seems sillier to me than them having no nightkill. :p

If everyone will read what I actually said, the citizens will see that I put in a sentence that was a direct quote from my citizen PM. Coolguy missed that entirely, which leads me to believe he is either the wizard or a witch and didn't GET a townie PM.

Wrong- I know for a fact that the witches and the wizard recieved the Angry Citizen PM. I asked Hammered about it after Mossysox kept refering to specific sentences of the PM on Day 1. And I just PMed Wes to get him to publicly announce it, as you'll see when he eventually comes around.

CatWoman
11-23-2007, 07:08 AM
Unvote. Let's try to find some better evidence next time.

SpaceManiac watched the votes tally up in horror. He was about to be burned at the stake! However, one by one, a few people unvoted, and he sighed in relief. However, he continued to look at the amount of votes left, and a scared expression came over his face... At the same time, Ufo-Man looked at the board with just slight worry. It was only one vote, how bad could it get?


SpaceManiac - 4 (Chaucer, Justin, Regen, PCR)
Ufo-Man - 1 (Connor S.)

P.S. Sorry for the late tally.Can you get anything right???

You know that the wizard and witches got a citizen PM??? That seems very broken to me. Say it isn't so, Wesley! I have never heard of anything like that in a mafia game.

Mr.Onion
11-23-2007, 07:13 AM
I have, except ALL the role PMs were posted publicly in the first post. So, I agree with Christian, and I will Vote: Coolguy!

CheeseLord
11-23-2007, 07:31 AM
CG, you're basing your vote on the assumption that the witches will gain a kill when the wizard dies. It's possible, but rather unlikely that the witches would gain a kill. Wouldn't they start off with one if they could get one? And it makes no sense that either the witches or the wizard would be sent townie PMs. That would break the game. And Christian's right, the wizard is, at the moment, far more dangerous to us than the witches. I think I should Vote: Coolguy.

Mossysox
11-23-2007, 08:01 AM
All of your factual claims seem to be wrong, Coolguy - and this is just extraordinary:-
I personally see the wizard as a lot less of a threat, since he or she has only been killing lurkers (other than Roland).
The witches will probably gain killing powers after the wizard is gone, since otherwise there'd be no nightkill, so of course they'd be desperate to get rid of him (Note- I'm just saying 'him' for convenience, even though the person I believe to be a wizard is a 'he'...). Christian has constantly ignored the witches to try and get rid of our only defense from the Mafia having a night kill, not to mention that she refused to leave the SM bandwagon until it was completely dead.

How can you possibly argue that it's only the Evil Wizard who's currently killing people and at the same time insist that he shouldn't be our primary target?! Because with the exception of Julian, it's townies the Evil Wizard is killing - and Julian wasn't exactly hurting the town, either. And you cannot seriously suddenly start speaking of the Evil Wizard as if he is somehow protecting the town from the witches ("our only defence from the mafia having a nightkill" - some defence!) - that is ridiculous. So, yes, seeing as he's by far the most suspicious person around here at the moment, Vote: Coolguy.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 08:20 AM
Seeing as I'm on the verge of death, I may as well claim. :p

I am indeed the wizard, but my goals were merely to kill my lyncher (Julian) and survive. Each night, I have the power to kill, but once I'm dead, the witches inherit my killing ability. I decided to side with the town, which is why only lurkers died every night (except I killed Roland on night 1, since he always likes trying to lynch me!!!).

Why am I claiming? Because 1) I already half won and I'm not going to do any better than that, 2) I'd rather at least continue participating, and 3) I want revenge against Christian, Mossysox, and Mr Onion, the witches, for forcing me to claim! :p

Here's why you should leave me alive until the witches are dead:
1) As long as I'm alive, I'll try to kill witches, as I've already been doing.
2) If you lynch me, those 3 get control of the night kill instead. Would you rather have suspicious people and lurkers dying or guaranteed townies!?!?

Now, here's why those 3 are Mafia:

1) Mr Onion
Mr Onion is once again using his hiding trick. He's only come out to vote a couple times, including the vote against me.

2) Mossysox
Christian 'forgot' to put Mossysox on the list of experienced players who could be the wizard. :p

3) Christian
Bleh, already said my reasoning many times.

Those 3 are your witches, and when you fail to vote them and vote me off instead, I'll be laughing on the sidelines at you silly people. :p

Mr.Onion
11-23-2007, 08:26 AM
*gets hole punch*
Seeing as I'm on the verge of death, I may as well claim. :p

I am indeed the wizard, but my goals were merely to kill my lyncher (Julian) and survive.
However, OUR goal explicitly said to kill the wizard!

Each night, I have the power to kill, but once I'm dead, the witches inherit my killing ability.
Just one question: Why would you know this?

Here's why you should leave me alive until the witches are dead:
1) As long as I'm alive, I'll try to kill witches, as I've already been doing.
You have just said that you are Neutral, so we can only take that on trust.

2) If you lynch me, those 3 get control of the night kill instead. Would you rather have suspicious people and lurkers dying or guaranteed townies!?!?
How on earth would you know what the witches are up to, or which side they are on?

1) Mr Onion
Mr Onion is once again using his hiding trick. He's only come out to vote a couple times, including the vote against me.
Rendered null by this post. :p

2) Mossysox
Christian 'forgot' to put Mossysox on the list of experienced players who could be the wizard. :p
Who says Christian's opinion of Mossy is the same as yours?

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 08:36 AM
*gets hole punch*

However, OUR goal explicitly said to kill the wizard!

I know that, but that doesn't mean you have to kill me first. :p


Just one question: Why would you know this?

Role PM.

You have just said that you are Neutral, so we can only take that on trust.

It's better than trusting the nightkills with the witches, isn't it? :p

How on earth would you know what the witches are up to, or which side they are on?

I don't understand what you're asking here- Of course the witches would want to lynch me to get their nightkill!

CheeseLord
11-23-2007, 08:40 AM
If your goal is to survive, then wouldn't you want to just end the game quickly? After all, your role didn't say you needed to kill the witches. They're currently ahead with more kills, so I would think it makes more sense to back them.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 08:45 AM
If your goal is to survive, then wouldn't you want to just end the game quickly? After all, your role didn't say you needed to kill the witches. They're currently ahead with more kills, so I would think it makes more sense to back them.

Wrong- Once the witches reached 50% the game wouldn't be over. They'd still try to hunt me down. And since they'd know each other, they'd be able to eliminate me faster.

CatWoman
11-23-2007, 08:52 AM
I didn't forget Mossy, Coolguy. She has done nothing at all suspicious that I can see. You, on the other hand, have been killing off townies and just plain posting accusations you can't back up ... because anyone can see how we've been posting.

Also, what makes you think the witches would know they would get a night kill if you died??? We really need Wesley to post here! Or else, could a witch please post his/her role PM so we can see what it says? :p

BTW, you were even wrong about the number of posts made by Mr. O. His post voting against you was his fourth. A couple means two.

This is pretty fun! It's only my third game, but I wasn't suspected at all in the last two games. It's fun pitting my wits against a really good player, especially since my posts (which I hope people will search out) back me up. ;)

Finally, townies win when the wizard and witches are dead. So let's kill this baddie so we can start concentrating on the witches. It remains to be seen whether he's right about the witches getting a night kill. I will take my chances.

EDIT: I just thought of something I should clarify. I am not defending Mr. O and Mossy, but quite frankly I don't see them as suspicious ... yet. I was simply pointing out that Coolguy was wrong ... again. But that will end when he's dead.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 08:53 AM
Finally, townies win when the wizard and witches are dead. So let's kill this baddie so we can start concentrating on the witches. It remains to be seen whether he's right about the witches getting a night kill. I will take my chances.

Gah, you people are horrible at this- Why would you rather have a Mafia have kill powers than a survivor!?!?!? Give one reason! It's Carnival Mafia all over again, except the town is too stupid to accept the help of a killing role.

Hammered
11-23-2007, 09:02 AM
Just to confirm - everyone in the game has access to the Angry Citizen role at this point. Most have had it for the entire game.

Direct quoting your role PM is still against the rules, so those who have done will probably be severely punished, but that is up to our host.

Sincerely, Mrs. Medium

Mr.Onion
11-23-2007, 09:06 AM
Wrong- Once the witches reached 50% the game wouldn't be over. They'd still try to hunt me down. And since they'd know each other, they'd be able to eliminate me faster.
Nope. That's not quite true. If the witches comprimised 50% of the population, they would be able to make a lynch automaticly, and thus win by lynching all of the non-witches.

To CG's above post: Because we have someone claimed as a role that we have been told to kill, and we don't have any other leads that credible.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 09:09 AM
Nope. That's not quite true. If the witches comprimised 50% of the population, they would be able to make a lynch automaticly, and thus win by lynching all of the non-witches.

I asked about it last night. The game doesn't end until I'm dead or the only one left alive. I can quote the PM for you, but I'm not sure if it would be allowed- In my opinion, everybody should know, but I'll ask Wes.

Mossysox
11-23-2007, 09:12 AM
Excuse me, since when is killing townies siding with the town?

You notice how every time Coolguy talks about the wizard, he leaves out the adjective? This guy is Evil, people - and the town needs to be rid of him. We only have his word for it that the witches will inherit his killing-power; it's entirely possible that he's lying about this. And even if he isn't, how can you possibly let a known killer remain standing?

You can see how much you can trust him from this:-
<*snip!*>
I am indeed the wizard, but my goals were merely to kill my lyncher (Julian) and survive. Each night, I have the power to kill, but once I'm dead, the witches inherit my killing ability. I decided to side with the town, which is why only lurkers died every night (except I killed Roland on night 1, since he always likes trying to lynch me!!!).
<*snip!*>
Here's why you should leave me alive until the witches are dead:
1) As long as I'm alive, I'll try to kill witches, as I've already been doing.
He's lying, obviously; he can't have it both ways. He can't claim to have been trying to kill the witches and to have only been killing lurkers. Oh, and don't pass over Roland's death so lightly, either. He would have been a real asset to the town, and that's why Coolguy killed him. If you leave him standing, chances are Coolguy will go after every other experienced player in the game and then excuse the town's losses by pretending that he thought they were the witches.

I wouldn't take the chance, even if he wasn't claiming to suspect me for no reason.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 09:14 AM
He's lying, obviously; he can't have it both ways. He can't claim to have been trying to kill the witches and to have only been killing lurkers. Oh, and don't pass over Roland's death so lightly, either. He would have been a real asset to the town, and that's why Coolguy killed him. If you leave him standing, chances are Coolguy will go after every other experienced player in the game and then excuse the town's losses by pretending that he thought they were the witches.

I wouldn't take the chance, even if he wasn't claiming to suspect me for no reason.

I figured that the witches would hide. I killed Julian because he seemed to be acting differently, and I killed EM because he was hiding.

And the Roland death was before I decided which side to aid :p

Still, would you rather have a survivor or a Mafia having the power to kill!?!? That's what all of you are completely ignoring, and that's my main point. Like I said, at this point, only a witch would want to preven the town from having power over both day and night.

Mr.Onion
11-23-2007, 09:18 AM
BUT YOU ARE NOT A TOWNIE! From the town's perspective, there is no difference, other than your word.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 09:19 AM
BUT YOU ARE NOT A TOWNIE! From the town's perspective, there is no difference, other than your word.

The difference is that there's a good chance a witch will die each night instead of a townie. :p I still wait for a townie to post- The only townie that has posted yet today is Connor.

I'm not going to try to convince you, Mossy, Christian, or Cheeselord- The town is the group that matters here, not you witch scum. :p

SpaceManiac
11-23-2007, 09:27 AM
I could only just get on!I am a townie, and I think that I agree with Coolguy, but I don't quite know. This is only my 3rd game, and I lost both of the others. Coolguy's evidence sounds convincing, I must admit.

Mr.Onion
11-23-2007, 09:29 AM
BUT YOU ARE NOT A TOWNIE! From the town's perspective, there is no difference, other than your word.

Ahem. We are trying to kill the wizard. We are trying to kill the witches.

You claim the be the wizard. There is no reason to claim that other than if you are.

You then say that me and various others are the coven of witches. This is not reliable, since we are trying to kill you, and you are probably going to say anything to avoid being lynched.

CatWoman
11-23-2007, 09:31 AM
The only townie that has posted yet today is Connor.Well, that remains to be seen. But one thing's for sure. The town half wins when you're dead. I find it odd that you think everyone who has voted against you is a witch. Speaking for myself, I was voting to get rid of the wizard who was killing innocent citizens.

EDIT: Hammered, I didn't know quoting role PMs was against the rules. Sorry!

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 09:32 AM
Ahem. We are trying to kill the wizard. We are trying to kill the witches.

You claim the be the wizard. There is no reason to claim that other than if you are.

You then say that me and various others are the coven of witches. This is not reliable, since we are trying to kill you, and you are probably going to say anything to avoid being lynched.

Ahem, you are the witches, trying to kill the wizard before he can lynch you four. You are trying to prevent the town from having the ability to kill at night.

You say that I need to be killed now because I'm going to betray the town. There's no reason to, because I cannot win anyways. You are going to say anything in order to get me lynched and have your kill powers.

Mossysox
11-23-2007, 09:37 AM
I figured that the witches would hide. I killed Julian because he seemed to be acting differently, and I killed EM because he was hiding.

And the Roland death was before I decided which side to aid :p

Still, would you rather have a survivor or a Mafia having the power to kill!?!? That's what all of you are completely ignoring, and that's my main point. Like I said, at this point, only a witch would want to preven the town from having power over both day and night.


And once again, Coolguy is trying to have things both ways. If you believed the witches were hiding, why not take out a serious lurker instead of ElMikkino, who had told everybody on the thread that he'd been absent for administrative reasons? Diginova, one of our most experienced players, has posted in the game exactly once, and very briefly - which makes him a much better candidate for the role of witch than ElMikkino. It looks to me as if you went for a likely Townie, whose death you could explain away if you needed to. And how very convenient about poor Roland...

You can't seriously expect me to trust you, when you're throwing around ridiculous accusations about me, Coolguy. It's not even something I can hope to answer, because it's not something I've done. And what really strikes me about it is that in the post you're trying to use against me, Christian seemed to be objecting to your list of suspects for the role of Evil Wizard - and it's a bit ripe for you to use that now, and ask people to trust you.

And I see the numbers keep changing. Are you going to be claiming that everybody who thinks the wizard should die must be a witch?

Mr.Onion
11-23-2007, 09:38 AM
You say that I need to be killed now because I'm going to betray the town.
No, I'm saying we have no guarantee from you. You could be doing anything at all.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 09:45 AM
Diginova, one of our most experienced players, has posted in the game exactly once, and very briefly - which makes him a much better candidate for the role of witch than ElMikkino.

Diginova's in college, and he's lurked in games before. I just had a bad feeling about EM. :p

You can't seriously expect me to trust you, when you're throwing around ridiculous accusations about me, Coolguy.

I'm not asking you to trust me- You're Mafia scum. :p

And I see the numbers keep changing. Are you going to be claiming that everybody who thinks the wizard should die must be a witch?

Because you four have common sense and only an idiot would refuse to have a killing role aid them. You don't want me to help, though, because you're one of the witches I'll make sure die by the end of the game, if I survive. :p

It's exactly the same as Carnival Mafia- A serial killer offered to help the town. However, this time, the Mafia came first and managed to put up a flood of posts all saying the same thing- That I'm going to betray the town. I have a 0% chance of winning. The only way I can win is if only one other person is alive, and there's no way that's going to happen. You are insisting that I have some complicated plan to magically win the game, but I don't. I just want to get revenge on the witches.

CatWoman
11-23-2007, 10:41 AM
Coolguy, you just keep digging deeper. Anyone who pays attention knows that Mr. O and Mossy are in the UK, so it's natural for them to post in what to us would be morning but for them is afternoon. Me, I'm around all the time. I can't speak for CheeseLord since I don't know where he lives. Also, since it's the Thanksgiving holiday here, I suspect that's why so many others haven't posted. Regardless, it makes sense for us to kill the evil wizard since that's what Wesley told us to do. You're really insulting everyone's intelligence. It's as though you don't think we can read a simple PM and its instructions. I would much rather vote for a sure thing than take a chance on getting another innocent person. This is a no brainer.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 10:50 AM
Coolguy, you just keep digging deeper. Anyone who pays attention knows that Mr. O and Mossy are in the UK, so it's natural for them to post in what to us would be morning but for them is afternoon. Me, I'm around all the time. I can't speak for CheeseLord since I don't know where he lives. Also, since it's the Thanksgiving holiday here, I suspect that's why so many others haven't posted.

I wasn't saying that you're mafia just because you're active. Reread my post.

Regardless, it makes sense for us to kill the evil wizard since that's what Wesley told us to do. You're really insulting everyone's intelligence. It's as though you don't think we can read a simple PM and its instructions. I would much rather vote for a sure thing than take a chance on getting another innocent person. This is a no brainer.

I'm not saying not to lynch me at all, I'm just saying to not lynch me now. :p I want to still be able to participate in the game instead of watch it.

Justin
11-23-2007, 11:02 AM
You are indeed digging yourself...

VOTE: Coolguy

CatWoman
11-23-2007, 11:04 AM
I wasn't saying that you're mafia just because you're active. Reread my post.Oh, please! Which post? There have been so many! I haven't seen a single piece of evidence you've posted about any of us. It appears you think we're all witches because we voted to burn you ... which is what everyone is supposed to do. But please, enlighten us as to what each of us did to make you suspect us. Read all the posts to gather your evidence. Oh, wait! There ARE no posts to use as evidence. And get over the vote about SpaceManiac. What makes you think he isn't a witch? That's no kind of evidence at all. I unvoted in a very timely manner when there were still other votes against him.

EDIT: Watch out, Justin! He thinks you're a witch now too, I'm sure.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 11:12 AM
You are indeed digging yourself...

VOTE: Coolguy

Y'know what, I'm done. There's no point to this- The town doesn't deserve to win at all if they completely lack the ability to make basic decisions. VOTE: Coolguy. I was the only thing standing between the town and a 100% chance of destruction. Even if you lynch correctly from here, town, you are completely and utterly doomed.

Since it is now night, no more posting.

Mossysox
11-23-2007, 11:19 AM
It doesn't look like you simply want revenge on the witches to me, Coolguy, because you're calling me a witch when I know that I'm a townie. And why are you doing that, besides the fact that I worked out that you're the Evil Wizard? You haven't offered any evidence against me - and if that's the kind of thinking you'd be employing if the town accepted your 'kind' offer, then it's not too hard to see where the Town would be headed.

I do take your point about it possibly being in the Town's best interests to allow an SK to work for them, but you are no ordinary SK, it seems to me. For one thing, there are no mafia kills at the moment, and we only have your word (you know, the self-confessed killer's word) that the mafia will suddenly start killing people if you are lynched - and this is a set-up I've never come across before. It seems pretty doubtful in itself.

And I just don't think we can trust you. You are changing your story all the time about why you've acted the way you've acted, and you haven't been straightforward at all. First you say you killed ElMikkino for lurking, then it's because you had a feeling about him. You say you killed Julian because he was acting differently to normal, when it seems far more likely that you killed him because you thought he was a cop. He certainly made it look like that here, in #62:-
I have a feeling Ufo isn't mafia, Mossysox, but I understand your reasoning. He is a new player though. Anyway, unvote -- the reason for the bandwagon was, in fact pretty stupid.

So why might you be doing this? Well, I think it's because you're lying about your win criteria. I actually suspect that your goal may be to remain alive with the witches, and you are asking the Town to allow you to continue 'helping' them, by killing more Townies overnight, as that is your only chance of success right now. This would certainly make sense, given the Town's goal. Plus, in the three nights we've had so far, you haven't killed a single witch, or even anybody who was remotely likely to have been a witch, given that we know you killed Roland simply to protect yourself. It just won't do to say that Digi's in college, and has been known to lurk before - the only time I've ever seen him lurking was when he was the GF in Spamumufia. Which made him a far more likely suspect than ElMikkino. And you've left all the other more experienced players alone as well - which again makes me think you were trying to avoid hurting the witches.

So not only am I not going to Unvote, but I urge all my fellow citizens to rid themselves of the only killer currently in our midst. I'm not sure what's going on with the witches, but I don't think they're killers.


EDIT: Gah! Ninja'd! Sorry if it is indeed Night.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 11:37 AM
Wes, if the town doesn't have any possible remaining way to win, I suggest you just end the game.

Hammered
11-23-2007, 12:04 PM
Voting for yourself is not allowed, so it is not a lynch, nor is it night. Please continue voting.

Sincerely,
Mrs. Medium

SpaceManiac
11-23-2007, 12:09 PM
Lurkers, please do not vote for Coolguy! He could help us, I suppose. I do have one question, though... if he knows who the witches are, why can't he night-kill them?

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 12:12 PM
I do have one question, though... if he knows who the witches are, why can't he night-kill them?

I actually can kill them, I just got unlucky with my past kills... And who said I had lawyer powers? It's just obvious to me who the witches are, using mad mafia-hunting skillz, not special powers.

Mossysox
11-23-2007, 12:45 PM
I actually can kill them, I just got unlucky with my past kills... And who said I had lawyer powers? It's just obvious to me who the witches are, using mad mafia-hunting skillz, not special powers.

Oh, look: another story-change... Roland wasn't an accident; Julian wasn't an accident; and last time Coolguy said anything about it, ElMikkino was supposedly killed because Coolguy had 'a feeling' about him. The same sort of 'feeling' that has him pointing the finger at me, presumably.

If I thought we could trust him, I'd be willing to give him a chance. But he can't tell the same story for five minutes - so why should any of us believe Coolguy when he says he can't win now, and that he'll do his best to help the town? To repeat: we've only got his word for this - and his so-called mad mafia-hunting skillz have so far delivered no dead witches, by Day or by Night. Time to say 'goodbye', I think.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 12:47 PM
Oh, look: another story-change... Roland wasn't an accident; Julian wasn't an accident; and last time Coolguy said anything about it, ElMikkino was supposedly killed because Coolguy had 'a feeling' about him. The same sort of 'feeling' that has him pointing the finger at me, presumably.

If I thought we could trust him, I'd be willing to give him a chance. But he can't tell the same story for five minutes - so why should any of us believe Coolguy when he says he can't win now, and that he'll do his best to help the town? To repeat: we've only got his word for this - and his so-called mad mafia-hunting skillz have so far delivered no dead witches, by Day or by Night. Time to say 'goodbye', I think.

Somebody you know is about to get a fun surprise, Mossy. :p *Aims wand*

Mossysox
11-23-2007, 12:56 PM
If you have the ability to kill a suspect during the Day, why on Earth would you have tried to vote for yourself?? You could have been helping the Town, instead of sulking! So this is either crazy behaviour, or it's pure bluster, designed to persuade anybody who has any lingering doubts not to vote for you.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 01:00 PM
If you have the ability to kill a suspect during the Day, why on Earth would you have tried to vote for yourself?? You could have been helping the Town, instead of sulking! So this is either crazy behaviour, or it's pure bluster, designed to persuade anybody who has any lingering doubts not to vote for you.

Or maybe it's because two certain Mafia were breaking the rules by quoting their PMs so I got one free daykill. :p:p:p You won't be squirming out of this one, Mossy... I VOTE: Mossysox in advance, after you all see a certain person's role.

Mr.Onion
11-23-2007, 01:05 PM
Why would... Why would Wesley give you a free daykill because the witches broke the rules? He would have just modkilled the offenders.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 01:07 PM
Why would... Why would Wesley give you a free daykill because the witches broke the rules? He would have just modkilled the offenders.

You and Mossy don't give up, do you? :p Just wait a minute for Wes to post. I'll make sure to use my kill on you tonight, by the way, as thanks. :mrgreen:

EDIT: Actually, I VOTE: Mr Onion as he has more evidence against him. :p

Wesley
11-23-2007, 01:12 PM
I'm really sorry...
_________
As the Evil Wizard rose his wand into the air, a huge bolt of lightning came crashing down.

"Get down! NOW!!" Mrs. Medium shouted. Suddenly, the entire area was flooded with light, and an explosion could be seen from miles around. After it was over, everyone got up, and noticed that Christian was no longer with them. Strangely though, there was no sign of her. She wasn't here anymore however...

Christian was day-killed.

Role: Head Witch

You are the head of a coven of witches. At least, you were, until your entire coven was burned years ago. You were the only survivor. You come open the town of Grim Grove, and dream of once again being the leader of a coven. The entire town has a sort-of an “Anti-Witch Policy”, so if they find you, they’ll burn you. Because of this, you must act like a normal person, while at night, you silently create your new coven… However, there is a rumor that an Evil Wizard has come to town. You can’t let that person get in your way, so you’ll have to get rid of him/her too.

YOUR GOALS:

DESTROY THE TOWN
DESTROY THE EVIL WIZARD

If your coven has the majority of non-dead players over the Angry Mob (Town), you win. However, if your coven survives, but the Wizard does too, you only partially win. Also, if you destroy the Evil Wizard, but your coven falls victim to fire, you also only partially win. You must get rid of the Evil Wizard and have the majority of alive players to fully win.

YOUR POWERS:

You have the power to recruit a person into your coven during every night. However, there are a couple rules:

1. Every successful recruitment lowers your chance of recruiting again.
2. There are two players who are completely immune to being recruited. These players are the Evil Wizard, and the Revengeful Survivor. If you target them, nothing will happen. However, you will not be notified whether they immune, or your recruitment simply failed.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 01:36 PM
So, I'm the one who should be lynched!?!? :p:p You silly witches have all come out to get rid of me, only now you've doomed yourselves. Now that your cult leader is gone, you (probably) can't recruit anymore!

Today, we will VOTE: Mr Onion. He was hiding up until now and also joining with Christian in an attempt to get rid of me. Tonight, I will kill the 2nd witch, Mossysox, then tommorow we will lynch the final member of the coven. Then you can lynch me, although Wes will probably allow just a surrender at that point to save time.

Mr.Onion
11-23-2007, 01:44 PM
Yes, you are the one who should be lynched. I will post more tommorow, since it is getting late.

CheeseLord
11-23-2007, 01:49 PM
Loath as I am to trust someone who has killed two townies, I must admit that CG was right, at the very least about one witch. I still think you're working against us, but for now, I will agree with you. I won't take your word on faith, as that's for the most part suicide, but I will listen to you. For now. Vote: Mr.Onion.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 01:49 PM
Yes, you are the one who should be lynched. I will post more tommorow, since it is getting late.

So you're saying that you would rather trust the night kill with the witches rather than with the person who just shot the cult leader? :p:p I don't think you can get much more evil than that, Mr O. The tables have turned- You, Mossy, and Cheeselord aren't going to win this game.

CheeseLord
11-23-2007, 01:51 PM
So you're saying that you would rather trust the night kill with me or the witches then the person who just shot the cult leader?
I'm sorry, I thought that you did that.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 01:53 PM
Bleh, silly grammar- It is fixed now.

CheeseLord
11-23-2007, 01:56 PM
No, I wouldn't rather trust the nightkill with the one who killed the cult leader, but you're the best chance we have, so I'll let you have it.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 01:57 PM
I was asking Mr O, not you, Cheeselord.

CheeseLord
11-23-2007, 01:59 PM
It was meant to correct your grammar (again), but I'm fairly sure I know he will say no to that. From what I can gather, he likes your having power less than I do.

SpaceManiac
11-23-2007, 02:01 PM
Wow. A LOT happened in that 15 minutes or so I was gone. I think that, in light of recent evidence, I will Vote: Mr.Onion

Mossysox
11-23-2007, 02:03 PM
So, I'm the one who should be lynched!?!? :p:p You silly witches have all come out to get rid of me, only now you've doomed yourselves. Now that your cult leader is gone, you (probably) can't recruit anymore!

Today, we will VOTE: Mr Onion. He was hiding up until now and also joining with Christian in an attempt to get rid of me. Tonight, I will kill the 2nd witch, Mossysox, then tommorow we will lynch the final member of the coven. Then you can lynch me, although Wes will probably allow just a surrender at that point to save time.

Whoa, you really were working against the witches. Hmm, OK; Unvote, at least for now. I'm not entirely surprised about Christian, not after her night post. But I don't think the town should allow the Evil Wizard to dictate how this goes now. OK, so I would say that, obviously, since Coolguy's planning on killing me - and if that's what the town wants, fair enough. But if the town is to trust him, Coolguy should honour his offer to work for the town, and so, should let the town tell him who to kill.

And I don't see how voting to lynch the Evil Wizard proves anybody a witch, simply by itself, so I'm not jumping through that hoop, Coolguy, at least not yet. I can't stop and think about this right now, it's late here - and I won't be able to post in the next ten hours. Please do not mistake this for lurking - I'll be sleeping.

CatWoman
11-23-2007, 03:31 PM
Gasp! :twisted: You may think I'm dead, but I'm ... somewhere. Coolguy was right that I'm a witch, but wrong about so much else! I can't believe you citizens will continue to let him live in your midst. As evil wizards are prone to do, he lied so many times today that I can't believe anyone would believe he will somehow benefit the town. And as you can see from reading my role PM, witches do not have the power to kill. So what are you thinking of letting Coolguy live??

I really wish I could post the last PM I got from Wesley ... that would show you people a thing or two. I did not get killed for the reason you might think, but I won't ruin things for him by saying what it was.

Anyway, thanks for a great game, Wesley. It was tons of fun. And go witches! Make me proud!

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 03:42 PM
Gasp! :twisted: You may think I'm dead, but I'm ... somewhere. Coolguy was right that I'm a witch, but wrong about so much else! I can't believe you citizens will continue to let him live in your midst. As evil wizards are prone to do, he lied so many times today that I can't believe anyone would believe he will somehow benefit the town. And as you can see from reading my role PM, witches do not have the power to kill. So what are you thinking of letting Coolguy live??

Y'know, the fact that the Mafia godfather is telling you all to lynch me is probably enough to prove that it's a bad idea for the town. :p

My PM said the witches have the power to kill once I'm out of the way, however. :p If the witches didn't, then nobody would die at night after I'd been killed.

I really wish I could post the last PM I got from Wesley ... that would show you people a thing or two. I did not get killed for the reason you might think, but I won't ruin things for him by saying what it was.

I'm not exactly sure what it is, but I know it was the witches being punished, and I assumed it was all the role PM posting (since Hammered posted about it earlier).

Connor S.
11-23-2007, 03:51 PM
I think Coolguy is working for us, yes, but I do think we shouldn't let our gaurd entirely down. note his name. EVIL Wizard. and all of our role pms said we had to lynch him to win. anyways, Interesting about the whole three sides thing, and each having to get rid of both others to win. Also- coolguy, it isn't the mafia godfather who is saying that, its the cult leader, but I do agree its suspicous. In all, I think because you killed a witch, you've earned the towns trust.

ROAST: Onion!

Yum Yum!

Justin
11-23-2007, 04:47 PM
Guys, vote CG. He doesn't know a thing.

Coolguy
11-23-2007, 04:51 PM
Guys, vote CG. He doesn't know a thing.

You will be proven very wrong in just a couple more votes. :p Then we'll rediscuss who's really the one that doesn't know a thing.

Hammered
11-23-2007, 07:56 PM
Vote Count

Coolguy: 2 (Mr.Onion, Justin)
Mr.Onion: 4 (Coolguy, Cheeselord, SpaceManiac, Connor S.)

10 people are alive or 6 votes to lynch

Wesley is away until some time tomorrow, so I will keep the vote tally for him until he gets back. If a lynch occurs, I will be able to psychically divine the appropriate role and post it and start night.

Sincerely,
Mrs. Medium

Mossysox
11-24-2007, 03:19 AM
Reading through the thread this morning, it's really struck me: there is nothing in Christian's role PM about inheriting the Evil Wizard's killing power, and most of Coolguy's argument has been based on the claim that the witches know that they would become a killing power if they killed him. So, clearly, he's at least partially wrong; but what if he's lying about that part of his role, the same way he's lied about so many other things?

Think about it: the only reason for keeping him alive is that Coolguy says the killing will continue after he's dead, only it will be done without any input from the town. Well, what if he's wrong? What if this would simply become a lynching game, after we lynch the Wizard? Could that happen - and if not, why not?