Mafia #28 - Loonyland 2 Mafia [Archive]

PurpleKoopa

12-15-2007, 10:29 AM

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Mafia Game #28 - Loonyland 2 Mafia

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Welcome to the town of Eisburg!

Winter Woods is cold. Everyone knows that. However, nobody expected it to get this cold - mostly in the hearts of some shady group. A series of robberies, smuggling, and acts of violence have taken place throughout the land. Many people have moved into Eisburg, seeing how it's the safest place in Winter Woods, and it beats living in a cave. However, it seems not even Eisburg is safe anymore...

You wake up this morning to a sudden chill down your spine. You stumble out of bed and out of your cabin to see what the clamor was. You quickly find out.

Four huge walls of snow surround the village. You try pounding on one of them, but it's no use - the stuff's been soundly constructed and hard-packed, like there was concrete inside of it. You notice as the other citizens wake up to pretty much notice the same thing you're noticing. Suddenly, someone notices something new and lets out a shriek. You gather 'round to find the body of Rupert Roper, with a piece of paper nearby. It looks like he got a pretty bad papercut - oh wait, there's a knife in his back. You pick up the note. It reads,

"Dear Winter Woods,

You have such a lovely place here. The only problem with it is that it's way too happy for our standards. We've decided to take it over for ourselves and fix that. To do it, we set up a snow machine to barricade you all in, and now we'll get through with the extermination business. Have fun!

- The Mafia"

Of course, you are shocked and furious at this group of no-gooders. It takes a while, but nearly everyone concludes that the Mafia must still be among them, the best way to save Winter Woods is through mob justice. You take the rope from Rupert's dead body, slant the Festivus pole in the town square, and make a nice little noose. However, it took you a while to think of this strategy and tie the rope (Rupert was always the best at that stuff), and now it is far too late in the day to do anything yet.

So, now it's the time for YOU to go back to bed, and deliver that mob justice in tomorrow.

--
RULES!

Votes should look like: Vote: Player, otherwise I won't count 'em.
This is not mandatory, but please state your unvotes as Unvote.
One may Vote: No Lynch, and a majority of such votes will end the day without a hanging.
Once the majority votes gets through, no unvotes can stop the hanging.
Do not post anything game-related at night.
If you die, do not post anything game-related. A simple "Bah! Go town/scum!" I don't mind, but keep your information to yourself. The only exception for this is anyone who gets killed on Night 1, and that person must post the last gasp before the next night.
Never show PMs from the me to anyone in the game. Quoting your PM to prove your innocence is strictly forbidden. Fake PMs are also included in this.
Do not discuss the game with other players outside of the thread unless you are part of the group, and then only do that at night.
Night lasts about 48 hours. Please send night choices before then or you will be considered to take no action.
If day drags on too long, a deadline will be imposed. If there is no majority vote before then, no hanging will occur.
If you start lurking, you're gonna get replaced.
Modkilling during the day takes the place of a hanging.
If you have any questions, ask by PM or post it in the thread.
I am not perfect, so if I make a mistake, feel free to point it out.
This is a game! Have fun, don't be a jerk, etc. etc.Here is what an example Role PM looks like...

Welcome to Ropes n' Ropes! You are Rupert! You make a living selling ropes. However, your customers always use them for making walkways across cliffs. There must be a lot of tightrope walkers in Winter Woods.

You are a townie. You have no special abilities, except for your brain and vote - use 'em! You win with the town.PLAYER LIST

CheeseLord
Connor S.
Coolguy
diginova
ducklegion
ElMikkino
Hammered
Julian
Licking Post
Mr.Onion
PlasmaCannonsRule
regeneratorizer
Roland
Sillyman
SpaceManiac
Ufo-Man

REPLACEMENTS

Wesley
chaucer
Blackduck
Hammer Up!
BunnyBot 5000
rtys

It is NIGHT 1! Do not post yet... just send in any questions you have you have or night actions to me!

Licking Post

12-15-2007, 11:00 AM

Sorry about the night post, but this is kinda important. I didn't expect the game to start this soon, and I'm still too busy to play. Please send somebody to replace me.

PurpleKoopa

12-15-2007, 11:29 AM

Okay, just don't comment about your role or anything :)

PLAYER LIST

CheeseLord
Connor S.
Coolguy
diginova
ducklegion
ElMikkino
Hammered
Julian
Wesley (replacing Licking Post)
Mr.Onion
PlasmaCannonsRule
regeneratorizer
Roland
Sillyman
SpaceManiac
Ufo-ManREPLACEMENTS

chaucer
Blackduck
Hammer Up!
BunnyBot 5000
rtys

diginova

12-15-2007, 02:38 PM

Blankity

Coolguy

12-15-2007, 02:48 PM

Get back to sleep, silly Digi- It's night!

Also, Mafia chatting:

Dumb Folks]: ducklegion has entered at 2:43
2:43 [ducklegion]: digi night posted!
2:43 [SpaceManiac]: Greetings from Geekatoopia!
2:43 [SpaceManiac]: he's evil
2:44 [SpaceManiac]: he can't vote!
2:44 [SpaceManiac]: It's not day!
2:44 [SpaceManiac]: And random-voting is evil!
2:44 [SpaceManiac]: And I'm pretty sure it's not even random!
2:44 [ducklegion]: ****
Justin marks digi on possible mafia list.

Julian

12-16-2007, 12:38 PM

Grrrrr....... I wanted to play this game, but no, it had to start before I move..... I have hardly any time to do anything for now, so I need a replacement.

Hammered

12-16-2007, 12:49 PM

In another thread, chaucer posted that he wouldn't be around for more than another week, so PK may wish to bypass him in favor of Blackduck.

regeneratorizer

12-16-2007, 03:19 PM

On another note, I'll be absent tommorrow. Tuesday I'll be up and running again, though! Got work all day monday, y'know.

PurpleKoopa

12-16-2007, 07:52 PM

Just a reminder, night is over in about 17 hours... I don't have everyone's night actions yet!

Oh, chaucer will be replacing Julian - he will tell me if he gets too busy...

PLAYER LIST

chaucer (replacing Julian)
CheeseLord
Connor S.
Coolguy
diginova
ducklegion
ElMikkino
Hammered
Mr.Onion
PlasmaCannonsRule
regeneratorizer
Roland
Sillyman
SpaceManiac
Ufo-Man
Wesley (replacing Licking Post)REPLACEMENTS

Blackduck
Hammer Up!
BunnyBot 5000
rtys

PurpleKoopa

12-17-2007, 11:24 AM

You wake up this morning to the smell of something burning. You love the smell of something burning in the morning - no you don't. You're pretty sure nobody's cooking breakfast for you right now.

You look outside to where it's coming from. It looks like some fried pancake... Wait a second... it's diginova! You rush outside to see if you can revive diginova, trying everything - giving CPR, dousing him with water, even flipping digi's now pancake like body with a giant spatula. It's no use - they got 'im!

You vaguely make out a sign that diginova was carrying. It reads,

"BOUAPHA
4:11"

diginova/Betty has been squashed and burnt. He was a townie. He also gets a last gasp (the only one in the game!!).

~~

ALIVE

chaucer (replacing Julian)
CheeseLord
Connor S.
Coolguy
ducklegion
ElMikkino
Hammered
Mr.Onion
PlasmaCannonsRule
regeneratorizer
Roland
Sillyman
SpaceManiac
Ufo-Man
Wesley (replacing Licking Post)DEAD

diginova (squashed and burnt, Betty/Townie)--

It's Day 1! 8 votes to string 'em up, Dan!

Roland

12-17-2007, 11:31 AM

First day post!

EDIT: I have more to say, actually:

1. Was it any coincidence that Diginova died when he randomly voted Sillyman (the post's edited, but people can back me up)? Could he have gotten revenge? Something to consider....

2. Considering in the first post that PK posted what an example role PM looks like, I think Diginova was mafia janitor'd- How come we don't know his role? Either that or there's something strange about his role... Hmmm.

Coolguy

12-17-2007, 03:44 PM

Alright, I had planned to do this last night, but unfortunately, my proof got himself killed. I happen to be Woody Woodsman, who, as you can probably guess, is the Tracker. Why am I claiming? As soon as I get shot, I won't be able to reveal my inspections because of that evil gasp rule, and there's not much of a risk because I figure the Mafia would've had a 99% chance of shooting me tonight anyways. Last night, I used my power on Diginova because it's always hard to figure out what team he's on without an inspection. Unfortunately, it was a complete waste of a night choice, and this claim won't be very effective (although the fact that nobody else will claim as the Woodsman will probably mostly prove me:p).

But I have some other very helpful information- I'm not sure if PK intended it to be figured out, but I am 99% sure that Connor S is a roleblocker, based on the fact that I only recieved my inspection after Connor finally visited and probably PMed. Connor, you better get claiming now, or I'll make sure you find yourself dangling from the Festivus pole before you have a chance to block me tonight.

Also, doctor, PROTECT ME. Don't do that idiotic thing doctors always do by protecting somebody else thinking that the Mafia don't have the guts to go after the power role. THEY ALWAYS DO!

Suspicions:
I immediately suspect Hammered because of the fact that she hasn't died yet. It would be a good idea for a cop to inspect her soon. Not much beyond that, as day just started.

SpaceManiac

12-17-2007, 05:21 PM

Hmm... something happened. It does appear Sillyman or Hammered could be on the mafia team.

Coolguy

12-17-2007, 05:22 PM

Hmm... something happened. It does appear Sillyman or Hammered could be on the mafia team.

The Mafia could've been trying to frame him.

Ufo-Man

12-17-2007, 05:37 PM

Hm.... Well, I say that most likely hammered or Sillyman is a mafia.
But there is always a chance, and also, so you dont think I am mafia, I am a mason.
I say the doctor should protect Coolguy. I say coolguy is more better than me, so protect him.

CheeseLord

12-17-2007, 05:43 PM

I would think there would be better targets out there than diginova for the mafia to kill. Of course, it gives rise to the school of thought CG is using to suspect Hammered, which is not typically a good type of reasoning. Actually, having just read through a list of mafia strategies, CG appears to be using plenty of the logical fallacies that mafia use. For example, trying to use the "You're alive, so you must be evil!" argument, claiming to be a cop to divert the doctor, or trying to convince Connor to roleclaim a power role. Maybe I'm overthinking things a bit, so I'll stop reading these strategies for now. Of course, it's also possible he really is a tracker, and just got unlucky. I'll hold my vote for now, at least until something else comes up.

ElMikkino

12-17-2007, 05:53 PM

It was kinda weird Sillyman voted for Digi, and then digi died, but it seems like the mafia don't really vote for the person they're going to kill, from what I've seen in the last few games. Hammered and CG are more likely.

Connor S.

12-17-2007, 06:34 PM

Coolguy

12-17-2007, 06:36 PM

Sillyman didnt vote for digi, digi voted sillyman. also- coolguy, why are you trying to get me to roleclaim? Huh? also- Id like someone to back up Ufos story. if he really IS a mason, SOMEBODY should speak up. :lol:

Because I think you're probably a Mafia roleblocker and I don't want my tracking tonight to be blocked.

Connor S.

12-17-2007, 06:44 PM

Wesley

12-17-2007, 06:44 PM

Poor Digi... Anyway, I agree that Sillyman could be mafia. Digi voted Silly, Digi dies. It seems possible. However, someone could be framing him, in which case, we've got a smart mafia. I'm not sure if Coolguy or Hammered are evil or not, so I'm just going to stay neutral, and try not to blindly follow them.

Coolguy

12-17-2007, 06:54 PM

Not mafia- and I myself can garuntee im not a roleblocker, as can Ufo as of tomorrow, if my hunch is right. if its wrong, this game is seriously broken, with two sets of masons.

Explanation: Just wait till tomorrow before you listen to coolguy and lynch me, because unless Im mistaken, ufo isnt a TRUE mason, hes a POTENTIAL mason. (ufo back me up if Im right.) if he is, I am his potential mason. basically, each night we try to find each toher, and once we do, we become masons. So, tonight, I will look at him, and we will be masonified, unless Ufo speaks up and says he is NOT in fact actually a potential mason. but tomorrow, if I am correct, you have a group of two proven townies. which not even Coolguy can convince you townies to lynch. :D

Anyways, hopefully this doesnt count as a role claim, as I never said my role name.

I think PK has planned to use a role like that before on Mafiascum (though it was a lost Mafia that was trying to find his team!). However, if that was the case, I'd doubt that UFO would've come forward.

I'm not completely convinced about this, because PK has used Mafia masons in the past (though with evil masons being counted as broken now, I doubt it, and I also doubt an evil mason would additionally have roleblocking powers). Not to mention the insanely odd part I bolded.

Somebody else is probably a better choice, and there's probably still a Roleblocker out there.

Connor S.

12-17-2007, 06:55 PM

there may be a roleblocker out there, but I am not him. unyah. just wait till tomorrow- I will target Ufo, and tomorrow we can both advocate for each other.

Ufo-Man

12-17-2007, 06:56 PM

Yes, I am accually the leader of a potential mason, so First, I must find an Ideas of who to recruit, becuase I dont want to die. And I cant recruit until I find my other potentiall mason.
Right now, I have no power until I find my potential mason (If connor is him)
Well I will wait.

Connor S.

12-17-2007, 06:59 PM

For the record, what your saying sounds morwe like a cult, with the whole "recruit" thing. I think you might be confused, but I will target you tonight anyways, and see what happens.

CheeseLord

12-17-2007, 07:03 PM

I think he means he's a recruiting mason who can only recruit certain people. I don't believe I'm one of them, however.

Ufo-Man

12-17-2007, 07:04 PM

There is such thing as a mason recruiter, and I dont get my power to recruit until I find my other potential mason.

Coolguy

12-17-2007, 07:09 PM

Recruiting masons are indeed real- They are on the Mikeburnfire site. UFO's role sounds unique. I think he's telling the truth.

Connor S.

12-17-2007, 07:13 PM

Not that I know of.

EDIT: Wierd, I think that judging from PKs wording, Im the only one he can recruit then. meh. again, we must wait till tomorrow. until then, *changes topic, as we're not getting anywhere* lets look at ALL of the suspicous people:

Sillyman: Mysteious coincidence with the whole digi thing... a bit too coincidincy?

Hammered: Shes a good player, and is still alive. She must be evil! - coolguy. (Im including EVERYONES suspects)

Coolguy: Hes a good player too, and is possibly trying to draw the doctors attention to himself. hes also trying to get people to role claim. which I did, but only cause it made my job easier, and Ufo already spoke up.

Myself: According to coolguy, Im a roleblocker. Huh? (Im including EVERYTHING here, even myself, btu I dont actually see why this is suspicous.)

so yah. whats everyone think?

(woah- BIG edit)

VVV

Yes, debatable. as I just said, he COULD be mafia. at this point however, it seems logical he isnt, so I must confer, protect him. its typically not the first choice of a doctor to protect masons anyways, although they are more powerful then regular townies.

Ufo-Man

12-17-2007, 07:16 PM

But doctor, dont protect me, protect Coolguy. We need him more than me.

regeneratorizer

12-17-2007, 07:53 PM

Well, depending on who the mafia are, I think that the possibility of a frame is very high. Killing Digi to frame Silly is not a very effective strategy, though one that some people may use. I'm not prepared to mark Silly as a suspect just yet.

I immediately suspect Hammered because of the fact that she hasn't died yet. It would be a good idea for a cop to inspect her soon. Not much beyond that, as day just started.

Hey, hey, suspecting Hammered just for being around is MY job!

Not to mention the insanely odd part I bolded.

It may be a little suspicious, but its far from insanely odd. In the past, I have made that same mistake. "You Townies" probably doesn't mean: "You townies, apart from me, the mafia", it probably means: "You group of townies who find me suspicious".

Ufo-Man

12-17-2007, 08:03 PM

Well, I will wait.

Coolguy

12-17-2007, 08:29 PM

It may be a little suspicious, but its far from insanely odd. In the past, I have made that same mistake. "You Townies" probably doesn't mean: "You townies, apart from me, the mafia", it probably means: "You group of townies who find me suspicious".

I still usually see it as the first way- It just looks evil to me! (Not that I'd ever ever act solely on a minor thing like that) :p And Connor, I already said that I don't think you are a roleblocker.

Sillyman is a bad choice to lynch. It could've been a frame as has been repeatedly said. Or, just as likely, could've been the Mafia faking a frame in order to make SIllyman look good or make Justin and SpaceManiac look evil (they said he was evil in Mafia chatting). :p

Hammered isn't automatically evil, Connor- I said it was suspicious that she was alive, but a cop should probably inspect her to confirm because we could be losing a valuable townie. The Mafia could've thought that she would be protected.

There's not much to go on beyond that. I'd wait and see what Sillyman and Hammered have to say before making any votes.

Roland

12-17-2007, 10:27 PM

I believe CG, but he does contradict himself at one point with the logic his posts:

Suspicions:
I immediately suspect Hammered because of the fact that she hasn't died yet. It would be a good idea for a cop to inspect her soon. Not much beyond that, as day just started.

The Mafia could've been trying to frame him (Sillyman).

So he's assuming the mafia could be framing one person, yet are not framing Hammered? I propose different logic:

We know Coolguy is a townie, now don't we? So, if Hammered really WAS mafia, why didn't they go after Coolguy? If they're NOT going after Coolguy, a proven townie, why would they go after Hammered? If Hammered was mafia, the smartest townie on the board would probably be you, Coolguy, and they didn't go after you. I don't think Hammered is necessarily suspicious because of this, and I'm sure she'll feel the same way. But don't think that I'm overly-protecting Hammered; she isn't necessarily town because there isn't any evidence suggesting she's mafia.

Sillyman

12-17-2007, 11:06 PM

I will, of course, claim to be town, as that is the logical action for anybody. In fact, I am vanilla town. Except for one thing: BODZAHS DROOL! Either the mafia are framing me, it was a total fluke, or I am not who I claim to be. I know it isn't the third, but you don't. Oh, and Gorkas pwn all.

Roland

12-17-2007, 11:38 PM

Oh yeah, and something else I wanna say...

It was kinda weird Sillyman voted for Digi, and then digi died, but it seems like the mafia don't really vote for the person they're going to kill, from what I've seen in the last few games. Hammered and CG are more likely.

This seems very mafia-like to me. And the first bit doesn't even make sense! :p

Also, can Connor and Ufo-Man be a little more specific? So, how do these masons find each other exactly, and how does that work if you already happen to know each other? Please elaborate. I don't doubt that they're both townies, though.

One last thing: Since role-claiming isn't illegal this game, as shown by Coolguy, here's my role: I am The Historian! Erm, hello, wot wot! Ehh, yes. Yeah, I'm old and I live in a library. And I'm powerless. For realz!

Sillyman

12-18-2007, 12:35 AM

Actually, I recently noticed that outright saying the NAME of your role is generally frowned upon, at least in games with a townie name that is special, and not different for each person. It should be obvious what my role is. Outright giveaway Cloo: I live in Arctic Ascent.

PlasmaCannonsRule

12-18-2007, 04:33 AM

Actually, I recently noticed that outright saying the NAME of your role is generally frowned upon, at least in games with a townie name that is special, and not different for each person.

Then why did you post your role name in Candy Mafia? But, since that is frowned upon, I am vanilla town. Anyhow, I think that's what my lollipop is flavored.......

ElMikkino

12-18-2007, 05:41 AM

Oh yeah, and something else I wanna say...

This seems very mafia-like to me. And the first bit doesn't even make sense! :p

Also, can Connor and Ufo-Man be a little more specific? So, how do these masons find each other exactly, and how does that work if you already happen to know each other? Please elaborate. I don't doubt that they're both townies, though.

One last thing: Since role-claiming isn't illegal this game, as shown by Coolguy, here's my role: I am The Historian! Erm, hello, wot wot! Ehh, yes. Yeah, I'm old and I live in a library. And I'm powerless. For realz!

I truly think that Hammered or CG are more likely than Sillyman. Hammered hasn't posted today (correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think she has), and Coolguy is sounding very Mafia-like to me. Oh, and I am Tinny Tim! Sir yes Sir!

EDIT: The 1st part of that post might not make sense because I got the two names mixed up. Well, at least I think I did... the posts Digi and Silly made are blank.

Coolguy

12-18-2007, 07:28 AM

I think 2 Mafia just made a dumb mistake... From what the intro says, the town should be full of NPCs, not evil toys and monsters!!!!! I don't think anybody else should claim their name (unless somebody else has claimed the same one), because if it's true that the Mafia are toys/monsters and the town is NPCs, then half the Mafia team just gave themselves away and pretty much ruined themselves.

EDIT: I VOTE: Elmikkino. He's trying to get me and Hammered lynched, plus he decided to roleclaim as a Toy. I'm pretty sure he's just randomly tried to lynch cops before- I'll go check.

regeneratorizer

12-18-2007, 09:13 AM

Hmmm... Maybe PK made an error, but probably not. The mafia may have given themselves away! Might be a quick game.

I'll go with Coolguy and VOTE: Elmikk

Hammered

12-18-2007, 09:24 AM

Mr.Onion

12-18-2007, 10:23 AM

Hammered

12-18-2007, 10:37 AM

The idea of an ever growing group of masons seems pretty spooky to me too, but certainly a pair of masons that are searching for each other is not too scary. Even if there were multiple pairs, it wouldn't be too bad, because some would probably be killed before they ever even found each other, and, even if they weren't, it would take a while to before they could even use the power while they were still searching.

Of the two people who have claimed this sort of power, Connor seems to me to have nailed the description with almost spooky accuracy, so I believe him, but I also believe that Ufo-man might have that power, although his claim to be able to recruit seems a bit off from what I understand about the role. Perhaps he is just confused, as this does seem a bit overpowered, to me.

Sillyman

12-18-2007, 10:42 AM

If Coolguy was a mafia, I would be dead. If I was a mafia, Coolguy would be dead.

So either you're both mafia or you're both town. Thanks for the help, whether you wanted to help or not!

Then why did you post your role name in Candy Mafia? But, since that is frowned upon, I am vanilla town. Anyhow, I think that's what my lollipop is flavored.......

Recently discovered. :( Yeah, sorry about that. But since it shouldn't be an issue in this game as even powerless roles are all unique (Good idea, host), I am a Gorka. And no, townies don't have to be NPC's. I, and a lot of other townie creatures, can vouch for that. Sadly, your paranoia is likely to increase if you lynch a monster/toy and it happens to be in with the wrong group/have it's switch set wrong. Let's throw a boulder at those mafia!

Roland

12-18-2007, 11:56 AM

As all of you know, I recently ran a poll about who you would try to kill first if you were the mafia godfather. Coolguy's first choice for someone to kill was me. My first choice for someone to kill was Coolguy. I am not dead. Coolguy is not dead. If Coolguy was a mafia, I would be dead. If I was a mafia, Coolguy would be dead. Conclude from this whatever is appropriate in your own mind, but in addition to this, I don't think we should vote for CG, because if that is really his role, it is silly for the town to get rid of a power like that.

Yeah, that's what I said.

I agree that both of you are of interest since neither of you died, although, that isn't a good argument either way.

I'm, not entirely sure of the "potential" masons thing, since an expanding mason group seems unrealistically powerful for the town.:|

Mr.Onion, I'm a little suspicious of you for that.

And heck, I'm going to VOTE: ElMikkino, and I probably would have before (alas, I was asleep when he posted that), he's just acting super duper mafia-like; He's probably lying about his role, because I don't think Tinny Tim would be mafia, and neither would a gorka, despite the fact that everybody seems to hate them (sounds like an SK to me :p)!

Actually, I think I have an idea: The mafia are a group of 4 (please, don't go after me for deducting that :p) who work together - Random monsters don't really work together as such. And what are the two groups in LL2? The Onion Ring Gang and The Snuggly Bunnny Camp! The former is probably the evil group I'm guessing. I bet if Jamul were (and he might be) reading this thread, he'd probably be thinking the same thing.

Which also makes me think people are fake-claiming, hoping that somebody else doesn't have their role. I am 100% sure that nobody has my role because it is my role PM, and a very boring one at that.

While ElMikkino's our best bet, Sillyman probably isn't far off, although there's something about him I find so believable.

EDIT: Wait- How do we know that who the recruiting mason recruits is a townie? Oh, wait, if you look at the RM role on the mafiascum flash thing, it says the leader dies if it recruits a pro-mafia role. In my opinion, this is VERY powerful! I don't think there will be another normal cop because of this. Regardless, the doctor should definitely keep protecting Coolguy.

Mr.Onion

12-18-2007, 12:13 PM

Mr.Onion, I'm a little suspicious of you for that.
For what? If you're going to accuse me, at least explain why. Doing otherwise would be scummy.

(ElMikkino)'s probably lying about his role, because I don't think Tinny Tim would be mafia, and neither would a gorka, despite the fact that everybody seems to hate them (sounds like an SK to me :p)!

Er... What? How, where and when are you suddenly so sure that ElMikkino is mafia, beyond even a roleclaim?:???:

Which also makes me think people are fake-claiming, hoping that somebody else doesn't have their role.
What makes you think their fake-claiming?

PlasmaCannonsRule

12-18-2007, 01:41 PM

Hrrmm..... my brain is out of whack today. It cannot properly assemble evidence. I found a reason to be suspicious of Connor this morning, then forgot the reason, and now I can't find evidence to vote for ElMik!

Wesley

12-18-2007, 01:43 PM

I also can't really find much evidence against ElM yet. He does seem to be going after the good players, but... I'm not sure who to vote for right now, and everyone else seems to be acting pretty normal right now...

CheeseLord

12-18-2007, 02:06 PM

Sillyman

12-18-2007, 02:06 PM

[QUOTE=Mr.Onion;151986]For what? If you're going to accuse me, at least explain why. Doing otherwise would be scummy.[QUOTE]
Uh... I think he means you frowning at the town being powerful. But I'm not sure, because I can't read minds. And... Might as well Vote (To throw a boulder at): ElMikkino. Roland's post made some sense. Go town!

Connor S.

12-18-2007, 02:40 PM

The idea of an ever growing group of masons seems pretty spooky to me too, but certainly a pair of masons that are searching for each other is not too scary. Even if there were multiple pairs, it wouldn't be too bad, because some would probably be killed before they ever even found each other, and, even if they weren't, it would take a while to before they could even use the power while they were still searching.

[SNIP]

You really nailed it that time, hemmered! :o Im sur[rised you picked up on it so quickly... meh. Anyways, The above posts vote shouldnt count, as PK already said a vote should always appear like this: vote: elmikkino or someone else fotr that matter. but he has openly claimed to be mafia.

The other possibility, is that Sillyman has a day Killing power, like Julian from Pirate Mafia, and he included the "by throwing a boulder at" in order to finish elmikkino off. just a thought.

(wow, betcha no one expected me to look back and read old games like that! :o )

PurpleKoopa

12-18-2007, 03:28 PM

VOTE COUNT!

ElMikkino - 5 - Coolguy, regeneratorizer, Roland, Sillyman, Connor S.

8 votes to hang!

Coolguy

12-18-2007, 04:09 PM

I don't see why Gorkas and Tin Men would go running around in Eisburg if they're supposedly evil in LL2. :p There's plenty of NPCs in order to fully populate the town without resorting to all the game's monsters. It's possible, but unlikely. Although I guess the Onions could also be the Mafia team... We'll have to see.

Anyways, beyond Silly and Elmikkino, I find Mr O and Cheeselord a bit suspicious because of their hostility against both me and Hammered. :p I don't suspect the first as much because Mr O has done this plenty of times before in the past. But not as much with Cheeselord, though...

SpaceManiac

12-18-2007, 04:25 PM

Hm... I missed a lot! Quite a few suspicions going around... I, for one, have no special powers. But, really, whaddya want?

Ufo-Man

12-18-2007, 05:06 PM

Ok, Now I will follow, and Vote: ElMikkino!

Wesley

12-18-2007, 06:05 PM

I don't know... I just don't want to vote ElM for some reason... I don't think there's enough evidence against him. But... I might as well add to the lynch. If he turns out to be mafia, and I don't vote him, that won't look very good for me, and I don't want to die this early... Vote: ElMikkino

ducklegion

12-18-2007, 06:16 PM

im not sure if it is good or not but VOTE: ElMikkino

Sillyman

12-18-2007, 06:51 PM

Well, that's a lynch. No talking now.
/me hopes to be included in plot post

PurpleKoopa

12-18-2007, 07:49 PM

END OF DAY VOTE COUNT!

ElMikkino - 8 - Coolguy, regeneratorizer, Roland, Sillyman, Connor S., Ufo-Man, Wesley, ducklegion

8 votes to hang!

Day scene coming soon, juys...

PurpleKoopa

12-18-2007, 08:15 PM

The votes are in. "You've been found guilty, you evil toy solider you," one of the villagers says to ElMikkino.

"Right," the suspect grunts. "Me toy man. Me friend."

"I don't know what you're blabbing about... alright, string 'im up."

As soon as the noose is placed around ElMikkino's neck, he apparently finds out what's going on. He roars! He takes a big wooden mallet off the ground and tries to pound it at the villagers. They all run away as ElMikkino roars again, and runs after them.

"Boss not let you get away - URK!" ElMikkino collapses to the ground, having pulled the noose too hard. Everyone cautiously approaches.

"Well, looks like he wasn't a tin solider after all..."

ElMikkino/Bruiser has been hanged. He was in the MAFIA!

(just a reminder, no last gasps)

--
ALIVE

chaucer (replacing Julian)
CheeseLord
Connor S.
Coolguy
ducklegion
Hammered
Mr.Onion
PlasmaCannonsRule
regeneratorizer
Roland
Sillyman
SpaceManiac
Ufo-Man
Wesley (replacing Licking Post)DEAD

diginova (Night 1, squashed and burnt, Betty/Townie)
ElMikkino (Day 1, hanged, Bruiser/Mafia)--

It's Night 2! Be quiet at night, please... Send in your PMs!

PurpleKoopa

12-20-2007, 01:40 PM

Almost deadline (about 6-7 hours)... still missing some stuff... please, get it in!

PurpleKoopa

12-20-2007, 03:37 PM

Another smell enters through your window and up your nostrils. You've really got to close that window.

Unlike the smell last morning, this smell is a much... more... interesting smell. It's quite different - okay, you know what it is - it STINKS! Oh my goodness... you plug your nose as you head outside.

A pile of trash is seen in the middle of town. You know something is fishy here (come to think of it, it does smell like dead fish... probably some in that pile). You start digging through the trash, to find Connor S.! Or at least a pile of ectoplasm that looks like him... You also find a dog collar, made of the same material...

Connor S./Ghost Dog has been buried in trash. He was a mason.

Everyone is ready for mob justice... almost. Before you begin to discuss with the other villagers, you notice over in the shadows - there is some other ectoplasm. The ectoplasm is divided into two piles, like it was split in two. It looks like Hammered...

Hammered/Ghost Monkey has been sliced in two. She was also a mason.

--

ALIVE

chaucer (replacing Julian)
CheeseLord
Coolguy
ducklegion
Mr.Onion
PlasmaCannonsRule
regeneratorizer
Roland
Sillyman
SpaceManiac
Ufo-Man
Wesley (replacing Licking Post)DEAD

diginova (Night 1, squashed and burnt, Betty/Townie)
ElMikkino (Day 1, hanged, Bruiser/Mafia)
Connor S. (Night 2, buried in trash, Ghost Dog/Mason)
Hammered (Night 2, sliced in two, Ghost Monkey/Mason)--

It's Day 2! 7 votes to hang!

Coolguy

12-20-2007, 03:41 PM

:shock::shock: It seems we have a sibling-type relationship among UFO's recruits. Bah. UFO, I suggest you keep any further recruits secret if this is true.

Last night, I inspected Chaucer to find that he stayed at home (I inspected him because he has a history of obnoxious hiding). I suggest we lynch from those who waited until the end of the day to vote EM or didn't vote at all. *Makes list*

EDIT:

People who voted and are still alive: (In Order)

Coolguy, regeneratorizer, Roland, Sillyman, Ufo-Man, Wesley, ducklegion

People who didn't vote and are alive:

Cheeselord, Mr Onion, PlasmaCannonsRule, SpaceManiac, Chaucer (inspected)

I renounce any claims so far against Sillyman- It has been proven that some town members aren't truly NPCs. I don't necessarily believe he's good, but I don't think he's evil either.

At this point, I doubt Regen and Roland are evil. Regen was the first besides myself to vote EM and Roland's role claim has still not been disputed.

However, I still find Cheeselord and Mr O eviler than before. I also add PCR to that list as he's normally just a bandwagoner, yet he refused to join yesterday's one. I'll look back through the topic to see.

DOUBLE-EDIT: I forgot PCR's so-far undisputed semi-claim... Not quite as sure of him anymore.

Wesley

12-20-2007, 03:45 PM

Not Hammered! And we can't get a last gasp ether... While I did wait until near the end to vote ElMikkino, that was because I wasn't sure who to trust. I will trust Coolguy now, as he seems to be on the good side. (And not just because it seems he's suspicious of me)

ducklegion

12-20-2007, 04:34 PM

We already last two ghosts . . and they were both masons. I think a mafia is trying to get rid of the masons.

SpaceManiac

12-20-2007, 05:00 PM

It appears so...

Ufo-Man

12-20-2007, 05:18 PM

That shows something. We either have 2 teams of mafia, or we have a team of mafia and a killer.
Also, Yesterday, I lied.
Yes. I was trying to get attention away from some people, and it looks like it failed.
Yes, it was stupid, but I wanted to try and help. It looks like I made it worse.
I am also a vanilla townie.
I am sorry. I won't be surprized if you lynch me. And I am not a Jester/Joker. It would be hard to think of a LL2 monster that is Like a Jester.

CheeseLord

12-20-2007, 05:30 PM

Outright lying is never a good strategy for a townie. Also, why would you be trying to draw attention away from someone else? You claim to be a vanilla townie, but trying to draw away attention from someone else implies that either you already know who is a townie, or you wanted to protect your fellow scum, neither of which is likely for a vanilla townie. I will Vote: Ufo-Man. As for the two kills, I would guess that there's probably either an inventor or a skitzo out there.

Connor S.

12-20-2007, 05:36 PM

Bah! Go town! Get the Mafia! Etcetera Etcetera! What are the odds of that! Bah!

Ufo-Man

12-20-2007, 05:38 PM

Ok, Yes I deserve to be lynched, but am I a Jester/Joker? You should think first, becuase If I am a Jester/Joker, and I get lynched, I win. But am I just insane? You will find out when I get lynched/die....

CheeseLord

12-20-2007, 05:44 PM

Have you been reading the same of techniques I have? You seem to be copying from it. That's one of the strangest strategies, but in a game like this, I don't believe it. Any other excuses you'd like to try?

Ufo-Man

12-20-2007, 06:45 PM

What if I am a revengeful townie?
What If I am a new role like a Revengeful Jester?

Coolguy

12-20-2007, 06:55 PM

Cheeselord, I suspect you more than I suspect UFO, considering how you spent all game so far going after me and Hammered, who are both townies, not to mention you neglecting to vote EM. :p

UFO has done things like this in the past. And I agree that his claim was pretty stupid, unless he truly is a Jester. He does seem pretty suicidal. I don't want any of our lynches wasted, so I won't vote.

If there's any cops out there, I suggest you inspect UFO- Tracking won't be able to tell if he's a Jester or a vengeful townie.

regeneratorizer

12-20-2007, 08:30 PM

Hold on! Perhaps we are missing a very vital clue: Connor was told to target UFO last night. UFO is now claiming that he was never a mason...

I think that we have a case of Mafia Cop-itis on our hands. I think that the first night, a M-Cop inspected Connor, found he was one of those recruiting-mason things, and told UFO(A mafia fellow)(Or maybe UFO is the M-Cop, but I don't think he could come up with this on his own) to act as the recruiting mason leader. Connor saw this and targeted UFO last night, and since UFO is a mafia(Not saying this for sure, just saying this for simplicity), Connor died, because townie recruiting types always die when targeting a mafia. Thus, the mafia get two townies in one night.

I think we may have some very, very clever mafia on our hands.

VOTE: UFO.

Roland

12-20-2007, 09:03 PM

I've got to agree with Coolguy on this one... Mainly, Connor backed Ufo-man up on this and Hammered said nothing against the claim. I don't know how this is possible, but it does also seem to suggest in some way that Ufo-Man's a townie. Okay, I have two main suspicions right now:

1) Smile! Cheese! Would you like parmesan, cheddar or scum? I never really paid much attention to CheeseLord's posts until CG flagged him as a suspect (yeah, he's taking the workload for now :p):

I would think there would be better targets out there than diginova for the mafia to kill. Of course, it gives rise to the school of thought CG is using to suspect Hammered, which is not typically a good type of reasoning. Actually, having just read through a list of mafia strategies, CG appears to be using plenty of the logical fallacies that mafia use. For example, trying to use the "You're alive, so you must be evil!" argument, claiming to be a cop to divert the doctor, or trying to convince Connor to roleclaim a power role. Maybe I'm overthinking things a bit, so I'll stop reading these strategies for now. Of course, it's also possible he really is a tracker, and just got unlucky. I'll hold my vote for now, at least until something else comes up.

Apart from pondering the kill, and then starts going after him. The reasons are sound, be he seems to conveniently take no notice of how CG claimed.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you said you were the only one who everyone had wanted to kill. Yet here you are, still alive. At any rate, I don't see too much that's worthy of my vote yet. I am reasonably sure the two claimed masons are being honest, and I don't see ElMikkino as having done anything terribly evil yet.

Does he just conveniently miss the logic?Does it just whizz over his head? Normally CheeseLord would probably bandwagon at this stagek, and he knows that ion the first day, there isn't going to be much evidence- What ElMikkino let slip out of his mouth was good enough for a Day 1 lynch (and plus, it would've told us if monsters could have been mafia).

END OF DAY VOTE COUNT!

ElMikkino - 8 - Coolguy, regeneratorizer, Roland, Sillyman, Connor S., Ufo-Man, Wesley, ducklegion

8 votes to hang!

Day scene coming soon, juys...

No surprise.

Outright lying is never a good strategy for a townie. Also, why would you be trying to draw attention away from someone else? You claim to be a vanilla townie, but trying to draw away attention from someone else implies that either you already know who is a townie, or you wanted to protect your fellow scum, neither of which is likely for a vanilla townie. I will Vote: Ufo-Man. As for the two kills, I would guess that there's probably either an inventor or a skitzo out there.

This is more evidence that just backs up that feeling that it is no coincidence that he misses the argument that Ufo-Man was backed up by Connor and not disputed by him or Hammered. What does this tell us?

Have you been reading the same of techniques I have? You seem to be copying from it. That's one of the strangest strategies, but in a game like this, I don't believe it. Any other excuses you'd like to try?

And so it continues. On to my other suspect...

2) If you cut it up, it makes you cry; What if you lynch it? Mr.Onion isn't as big a suspect as CheeseLord, but I'm getting bad vibes from him. He usually lurks as a mafia, and he's only posted twice. Sure, it's the first day, but he usually posts more as a townie. We'll see as the game goes on. Anyway, the only two posts he posted were this: (bah, this is Happy Pony Land to quote!)

As all of you know, I recently ran a poll about who you would try to kill first if you were the mafia godfather. Coolguy's first choice for someone to kill was me. My first choice for someone to kill was Coolguy. I am not dead. Coolguy is not dead. If Coolguy was a mafia, I would be dead. If I was a mafia, Coolguy would be dead. Conclude from this whatever is appropriate in your own mind, but in addition to this, I don't think we should vote for CG, because if that is really his role, it is silly for the town to get rid of a power like that.

I agree that both of you are of interest since neither of you died, although, that isn't a good argument either way.

As for our "potential" Masons, I suggest that Connor tries to get Ufo-man tonight, and that Ufo-Man tries for someone else, since only one of them needs to try for it to be successful. In fact, aside from knowing who another potential Mason is as a criteria, I think that it would be an awesome idea for someone who had that type of role to try recruiting a REALLY GOOD PLAYER, because, you would be able to verify that person was a townie, which would be useful information for the town, plus you would be able to get some really helpful advice, if you succeeded in cementing that relationship. I am glad that I have such a thorough understanding of the way this whole mason thing works. I hope anyone out there who may be looking for a masoning partner has as good an understanding as I do and exercises their option accordingly.

I'm, not entirely sure of the "potential" masons thing, since an expanding mason group seems unrealistically powerful for the town.:|

Anyhow, like CheeseLord, Mr.Onion seems to just miss Hammered's first paragraph logic, which is really quite suspicious. And the second paragraph of what he said just sounds like he's scared...

Mr.Onion, I'm a little suspicious of you for that.

For what? If you're going to accuse me, at least explain why. Doing otherwise would be scummy.

(ElMikkino's) probably lying about his role, because I don't think Tinny Tim would be mafia, and neither would a gorka, despite the fact that everybody seems to hate them (sounds like an SK to me :p)!

Er... What? How, where and when are you suddenly so sure that ElMikkino is mafia, beyond even a roleclaim?:???:

Which also makes me think people are fake-claiming, hoping that somebody else doesn't have their role.

What makes you think their fake-claiming?

Okay, I must say: I didn't express myself too well in that post, but I find it hard to believe that I screwed up SO badly my though didn't get across! As for the first quote, I found you suspicious because you were making Hammered and CG sound suspicious. As for the second, no, I wasn't sure ElMikkino was scum only beyond a role-claim, I said that I thought ElMikkino was probably mafia, which lead me to the fact that if he was, he'd be fake-claiming? Got it? The third quote of mine pretty much continues on from the second. Yeah. But I guess, as Coolguy said, Mr.Onion does occasionally have that stance as a townie, so I don't find him as suspicious as this post suggests.

...Okay, that's it, folks! I have a bad feeling I'm about to be ninja'd, since this post took so long to write.

EDIT: Bah! I am correct! Anyway, I can't really make sense of this post yet as I'm supposed to be writing a birthday card!

EDIT2: Meh, I'm not too sure about that, regen.

Coolguy

12-20-2007, 09:08 PM

Roland, Mr O does the random-anti-CG/Hammered-hostility and semi-lurking when he's a townie, too, which is why I suspect him far less than Cheeselord (though he's not off my list :p).

ducklegion

12-20-2007, 09:09 PM

thats some good logic right there!

Roland

12-20-2007, 09:15 PM

Roland, Mr O does the random-anti-CG/Hammered-hostility and semi-lurking when he's a townie, too, which is why I suspect him far less than Cheeselord (though he's not off my list :p).

Yeah, I don't suspect him as much (I probably should say that in my post, because I didn't mean to be too hostile with it!).

Coolguy

12-20-2007, 09:20 PM

Bleh, I somehow missed the main point of Regen's post. :p:p How DID UFO Man know about a recruiting mason before Connor claimed!?!? The only reason I see is that he's a Mafia cop. Not to mention why the Mafia killed Connor rather than UFO. VOTE: UFO Man

ducklegion

12-20-2007, 09:22 PM

vote: Ufo

Roland

12-20-2007, 09:24 PM

Okay, I seriously need to read regen's post now.

EDIT: I still don't seem to get it...

EDIT2: After some re-reading, VOTE: Ufo-Man! Don't worry folks, if you don't understand it the first time, you'll get it eventually. :p

Coolguy

12-20-2007, 09:27 PM

Okay, I seriously need to read regen's post now.

EDIT: I still don't seem to get it...

UFO Man claimed as a recruiting mason that needed to find his potential mason before Connor also claimed as one for seemingly no reason. UFO had access to special information that let him know Connor's/Hammered's role and probably tried to draw them out. It seemed like an extremely accurate guess...

EDIT: That's 5 votes against UFO. 2 more to lynch.

Ufo-Man

12-20-2007, 09:37 PM

I am not a jeter. I was trying to just last another day or 2.
Also, I am not mafia, When I am lynched, I will be town.
I tried to do a plan where I would take a dive for coolguy, so he would not be killed.
I did not think That I would get a real mason out into shooting area.
As I said before, my plan failed.
I should think of better plans next time.

Roland

12-20-2007, 09:41 PM

I'm horribly confused. That's a somewhat valid excuse, actually.

Unvote, but this could very well change.

Coolguy

12-20-2007, 09:45 PM

That doesn't explain how you knew that there were potential masons, UFO... It's just too close of a coincidence.

Roland

12-20-2007, 09:51 PM

VOTE: Ufo-Man! Sorry for the switching-ness, but I feel tired.

regeneratorizer

12-20-2007, 10:00 PM

You know, Roland is acting mightily suspicious. We might have to review him for lynch-ed-ness tommorrow. Or, CG, You're a cop, right? Inspect him, please?

Sillyman

12-20-2007, 10:03 PM

Also, I am not mafia, When I am lynched, I will be town.
The way he worded this... anyone think we have a light background mafia? (Is almost normal mafia, but appears to be vanilla townie when lynched) VOTE: Ufo-Man!

Roland

12-20-2007, 10:11 PM

You know, Roland is acting mightily suspicious. We might have to review him for lynch-ed-ness tommorrow. Or, CG, You're a cop, right? Inspect him, please?

Wow, you really want Ufo-Man lynched, don't you?

Having said that, he does look very mafia-ish, but you seem too sure to me. You even went "Bah!" on the chat when I unvoted. :p

Of course, I would very much like CG to track me, because that would prove the the validity of my claim.

*Reads Terry Pratchet* :p

Mr.Onion

12-21-2007, 04:19 AM

Just to defend myself from lurking, I did not see any posts after my last post, until I logged on yesterday, by which time the topic was locked. This is the first time I've seen the topic since it was unlocked.

PlasmaCannonsRule

12-21-2007, 04:38 AM

Hrmm...... lots of very convincing reasons to Vote: Ufo-Man. What kind of townie role-claims as 3 roles?! Also, I am going to suggest...... wait a minute..... Roland really needs to be inspected tonight, especially if Ufo turns up town. Why? Well, I forgot to quote the posts, but Roland seems to be acting a bit wishy-washy (I believe that's the term) by unvoting and then two posts later, with no additional information in them, re-votes! Why do I say he's mafia? Well, perhaps he unvoted to try to make himself look less suspicous, but then the godfather told him to re-vote and kill Ufo! In fact, right here and there, I'll just Unvote, and say that Roland needs to be inspected or I will not vote!

Mr.Onion

12-21-2007, 05:32 AM

But there will not be a chance for inspections until after somebody is lynched! Yes, lying is scummy, so I will Vote: Ufo-Man

Coolguy

12-21-2007, 06:57 AM

I don't think Roland needs to be inspected. :p His claim as the Historian is still undisputed and I don't want the Mafia knowing who I'm tracking in advance. I am already pretty sure who I'll inspect instead.

Sillyman

12-21-2007, 11:26 AM

Roland

12-21-2007, 11:46 AM

Yeah, sorry about that, guys. Thanks, Sillyman.

EDIT: Oh, and before I start to sound paranoid, I'd like to point out that I'm sounding a bit paranoid. :p Anywho, tomorrow, don't be surprised if I vote PCR. Actually, a predetermined vote is hard to live up to, but PCR never voted ElMikkino, claimed I was being wishy-washy, and unvoted in the same post as he voted Ufo-Man. So I'm the one being wishy-washy, now am I? :p

PlasmaCannonsRule

12-21-2007, 12:12 PM

Wesley

12-21-2007, 01:14 PM

Not sure if he's lynched yet, but if he's not, Vote: Ufo-Man. There's a lot of evidence here, and it's too much for me to not vote.

SpaceManiac

12-21-2007, 02:55 PM

Gr... I missed just SO much. *goes back and reads thread*
Yeah, it looks like Ufo-Man is dead already, but he still seems suspicious. Vote: Ufo-Man.

PurpleKoopa

12-21-2007, 03:34 PM

Day was over by this post...

But there will not be a chance for inspections until after somebody is lynched! Yes, lying is scummy, so I will Vote: Ufo-Man

END OF DAY VOTE COUNT!

Ufo-Man - 7 - (CheeseLord, regeneratorizer, Coolguy, ducklegion, Roland, Sillyman, Mr.Onion)

--

Scene coming up!

PurpleKoopa

12-21-2007, 03:55 PM

The votes are in (again). Ufo-Man pleads as he is drawn towards to noose. "Please spare me! I'm a mason recruiter! Or a jester... or um... squeak?"

Nobody believes his rantings, so up he goes. As Ufo-Man is hung, he lets out one final squeak. The rope freezes, and he rattles a bit.

"Well," someone says, "That didn't help the town but my headache's gone now..."

Ufo-Man/Ice Mice was hanged. He was a perfectly plain, ordinary townie (!).

~~
ALIVE

chaucer (replacing Julian)
CheeseLord
Coolguy
ducklegion
Mr.Onion
PlasmaCannonsRule
regeneratorizer
Roland
Sillyman
SpaceManiac
Wesley (replacing Licking Post)DEAD

diginova (Night 1, squashed and burnt, Betty/Townie)
ElMikkino (Day 1, hanged, Bruiser/Mafia)
Connor S. (Night 2, buried in trash, Ghost Dog/Mason)
Hammered (Night 2, sliced in two, Ghost Monkey/Mason)
Ufo-Man (Day 2, hanged, Ice Mice/Townie)~~

It's Night 3! Woo... Get your stuff in!

PurpleKoopa

12-23-2007, 01:03 PM

Almost deadline!

PurpleKoopa

12-23-2007, 10:03 PM

Sorry since this is rather late, but you would be late too putting up the night scene if you had gotten Super Mario Galaxy before Christmas! Um... on topic now.

~~

The next morning yields another unpleasant aura. You hastily go outside to see what it is this time.

It's the same smell as yesterday - stinky. Very stinky. It doesn't take long to see where the problem is - another big pile of trash in the middle of town. After some more digging, you find SpaceManiac!

You sigh, and start walking away... until you here a sudden wheezing sound from the pile! SpaceManiac grumbles, "Oh sure, leave an old man to be buried in a pile of trash... Thanks for nothin'! I could have found all of the mafia and teach them a thing or two! I could teach you a thing or two, too! You're at least better than my good-for-nothing son. I couldn't teach him -"

You pile the garbage back on top of him.

SpaceManiac/Kinyova Sr. was buried in trash. He was a townie.

~~
ALIVE

chaucer (replacing Julian)
CheeseLord
Coolguy
ducklegion
Mr.Onion
PlasmaCannonsRule
regeneratorizer
Roland
Sillyman
Wesley (replacing Licking Post)DEAD

diginova (Night 1, squashed and burnt, Betty/Townie)
ElMikkino (Day 1, hanged, Bruiser/Mafia)
Connor S. (Night 2, buried in trash, Ghost Dog/Mason)
Hammered (Night 2, sliced in two, Ghost Monkey/Mason)
Ufo-Man (Day 2, hanged, Ice Mice/Townie)
SpaceManiac (Night 3, buried in trash, Kinyova Sr./Townie)~~

Day 3! 6 votes to hang!

Coolguy

12-23-2007, 10:55 PM

I tracked my greatest suspect, Cheeselord, last night and he stayed home. I'll post more in the morning- It's late here. The SM kill was very odd. I believe the Mafia are trying to get us to think they're GF isn't very good at this.

EDIT: Alright, I have 2 main suspects at the moment:

1) PlasmaCannonsRule

I suspect him for 2 reasons: The first is that he didn't vote Elmikkino, and the second is that yesterday he tried to get me to waste my inspection on Roland for incredibly stupid reasons.

2) Sillyman

The reason I still suspect Sillyman is because EM was trying multiple times to claim that me and Hammered were more suspicious than Sillyman. This could easily just be him trying to lynch more experienced players, but I'm not so sure...

3) Mr Onion

For not voting EM, trying to get rid of me and Hammered, and he voted UFO. :p (Though that last part isn't a very good argument, considering how UFO was acting)

regeneratorizer

12-24-2007, 06:08 AM

Just so y'all know, todays Monday, so I have work all day. Be back around 10:30 PM!

SpaceManiac

12-24-2007, 11:38 AM

"You're at least better than my good-for-nothing son. I couldn't teach him -"
- any more than 100 weapons in his lifetime! Ah, foo. Bah. Go town! Boo Mafia! Etcetera Etcetera.

Roland

12-24-2007, 11:39 AM

Okay, I think I know something. Chaucer is a PM'ing role. Somebody is making these nights go really long, and Chaucer's the only person who doesn't visit. This also, however, suggests that Chaucer isn't the godfather, because there's still been godfather kills. Although PK could have made a random kill, which would also explain why they've been sort of weird. Meh.

And PK, can you replace Chaucer? In the sign-up topic you said you'd replace lurking people... And Chaucer hasn't posted once!

EDIT: Why is CheeseLord innocent, Coolguy? Since the GF performs the kill (I guess it could be different, the point's still the same), the regular mafia would stay in their home like normal townies. Then again, if you look at PK's last game, there was a Mafia Roleblocker as well. But that was still half the team that would have tracked as not doing anything (there wasn't a tracker in that game, but meh).

PlasmaCannonsRule

12-24-2007, 11:39 AM

You know what? I give up trying to make myself look innocent. Whenever I try, it's always turned against me! So guess what? I'm going to role claim as MAFIA! HA! Take that! Now I'll see if they'll turn that against me to make me look like a townie.....

CheeseLord

12-24-2007, 11:44 AM

Actually, Chaucer claimed in another topic that he wouldn't be here until today, which would probably explain both why the nights take so long and why CG's result turned up nothing when inspecting him. At least in theory, he should return today. And PCR, don't do what Ufo did and lie about your role. It doesn't end well for you, and it doesn't help your side, whether you are townie or mafia, to have you lynched.

Roland

12-24-2007, 11:46 AM

Oh no! PCR's being mind controlled by regen! :p

;)

Mr.Onion

12-24-2007, 11:55 AM

Right, Coolguy:

For not voting EM, trying to get rid of me and Hammered, and he voted UFO.
I didn't actually get a chance to vote EM, because I never checked the topic between my last post and him being lynched. Also, in response to your second point, you are suspiscious for trying to get rid of me! :p It's silly for declaring someone suspiscious for going after a particular person, especially if they could easily be mafia. On the last part, you voted UFO too, before I did!

Coolguy

12-24-2007, 12:00 PM

Right, Coolguy:

I didn't actually get a chance to vote EM, because I never checked the topic between my last post and him being lynched.

You posted twice while he was being lynched!!!! :p Both times against me, Hammered, and Roland instead of EM!!!!

And I already said the last part wasn't very good evidence.

Also, I am aware that the Mafia may just be staying home, but I doubt it because in PK's last game, Pirate Mafia, all the Mafia left their homes to make the kill.

Mr.Onion

12-24-2007, 12:02 PM

3/8 votes is not "being lynched" :p

Coolguy

12-24-2007, 12:03 PM

3/8 votes is not "being lynched" :p

3 votes by some of the most persuasive people alive with good evidence is ''being lynched''. :p

Roland

12-24-2007, 12:20 PM

Man, I feel my fingers hovering over the VOTE button. Oh, wait- There isn't one. Meh. But Mr.Onion's lying in his post #111- Lynch All Liars! Also, that's the exact same excuse he used in Loony Mafia - The EXACT SAME ONE! That "oh, I didn't get enough time to do such and such" when he clearly did! Looky here... Link (http://www.hamumu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13327&page=9)

He claimed, after we lynched a mafia (he had his vote on a cop the whole time), that he didn't have time to unvote, when he did, because apparently he was in the chat the whole time. This is an extremely similar lie, and this current statement is a lie, as well as the fact that he's been acting extremely suspiciously.

I can't hold this in any longer; VOTE: Mr.Onion!

Mr.Onion

12-24-2007, 12:28 PM

Check the timestamp on my post yesterday. I logged off before Cheeselord posted. Do you tihnk it is reasonable to stay up into the night for the sake of a mafia game?

Roland

12-24-2007, 12:34 PM

I'm talking about the EM lynch. You said you didn't have time to vote him, when you clearly did.

Mr.Onion

12-24-2007, 12:45 PM

Why on earth did I say yesterday? I meant my last post before EM was lynched. It was posted at 8:13 my time.

Sillyman

12-24-2007, 05:34 PM

2) Sillyman

The reason I still suspect Sillyman is because EM was trying multiple times to claim that me and Hammered were more suspicious than Sillyman. This could easily just be him trying to lynch more experienced players, but I'm not so sure...
And here comes the part where the (wrongly) accused tries to defend himself. I have agreed with you so far, Coolguy. Mafia do frame people/draw attention away from themselves by correctly spotting a townie. And I voted ElM, remember? Meh. Onwards!

You know what? I give up trying to make myself look innocent. Whenever I try, it's always turned against me! So guess what? I'm going to role claim as MAFIA! HA! Take that! Now I'll see if they'll turn that against me to make me look like a townie.....

Heh. I think you're just a jester. Silly jester, trying to get yourself lynched. Of course, you could be Mafia.

As for the current vote trend, I'm not ready to lynch Mr. O just yet. Let him state his case.

CheeseLord

12-24-2007, 05:43 PM

I'm reasonably sure that PCR is not a jester. A jester would have tried to act mafia rather than claim it. And I'm not sure what vote trend you're talking about, as there appears to only be one vote.

Sillyman

12-24-2007, 05:47 PM

Hmm... Yeah, you're right. But the last few posts have been a large-seeming debate. Meh.

Coolguy

12-24-2007, 07:43 PM

PCR might still be worthy of a tracking, though... But I think there's one person who's a better choice (Not Mr O)

Ugh... Y'know, VOTE: Mr O. He's the most suspicious person alive (other than PCR, but he could be a jester. I'll probably track him). I don't think discussion is going to change that.

regeneratorizer

12-24-2007, 08:35 PM

Coolguy

12-24-2007, 09:06 PM

Alright, back from work, and after reading the topic, I will go ahead and VOTE: Onion!

Chaucer, If that theory about him having a PMing role is true, is a serial killer. The other night, there were two kills. We mistook that for UFO, a supposed mafia, teaming up with Connor, killing connor. However, this was not the case, as UFO is a proven townie. So, there is an unexplained extra kill that night. The only explanation I can see is that one very lurk-ish Chaucer is a SK.

That could be true- It would explain why PK won't replace Chaucer. :p Doctor, keep protecting me! I UNVOTE and VOTE: Chaucer until he stops hiding and posts something (and not just something like ''I'm not lurking!'').

Sillyman

12-24-2007, 09:12 PM

Very convincing logic, Coolguy. Very convincing. Which reminds me... What if you aren't townie? Then again, why would you lynch a fellow mafia. Meh. After some thought: Vote:Chaucer

Coolguy

12-24-2007, 09:40 PM

If there is an SK type role, I believe it would be a Stinky Sock or Stinkin' Bodzha, considering Connor and SM were both buried in stinky trash.

And if this is true, then last night, the Mafia didn't attack. My inspection of Cheeselord would be pretty much obsolete- I'll probably reinspect.

EDIT!:

If Chaucer is indeed a serial killer, then that leaves 3 or 4 Mafia, depending on which team PK took somebody from. I believe it's more like that there are 3 Onions, because of the fact that there's only 3 Onion-allied species in Loonyland 2. And who are these 3 Mafia? I believe they are Mr Onion, Cheeselord, and if there's a 4th, PCR or DL, in order of suspicion. I think one of those final 2 may be a Jester or lyncher, considering that the Mafia are short one person the town might have some weak spot to balance it out.

PurpleKoopa

12-24-2007, 10:17 PM

Sorry - hadn't realized chaucer hasn't posted anything! Just give a poke, replace if he doesn't say anything soon...

VOTE COUNT!

chaucer - 2 - (Coolguy, Sillyman)
Mr.Onion - 2 - (Roland, regeneratorizer)

6 votes to hang!

regeneratorizer

12-24-2007, 10:50 PM

Sillyman, why vote Chaucer? CG has already said Onion is a better target. He also said he is only voting whats-his-face to draw him out. More than one vote on a "I'm only voting to make him stop lurking" is pretty useless. Plus, if whats-his-face really is a SK, we can use him to the townies advantage... That is, if he will count as a townie at the end of the game. I think he will....

Chaucer, if you aren't replaced by night.. If we do end up lynching Onion, kill off the next suspicious person on CGs list, Cheeselord. Unless he can give us a good reason not to.

ducklegion

12-24-2007, 11:26 PM

umm . . VOTE:MR.O

Mr.Onion

12-25-2007, 02:36 AM

Well that last post was certainly helpful and not at all suspiscious. :p

Also, CG, the numbers in your last post are wrong/don't make sense.

PlasmaCannonsRule

12-25-2007, 07:21 AM

Eh, I don't like lurkers. (despite popular opinion, I just choose to post carefully & infrequently) So Vote: Chaucer. He's of no use to anyone.

Coolguy

12-25-2007, 08:01 AM

Since PK's replacing him anyways, I'll UNVOTE for now and see what his replacer has to say.

Double-Edit: Meh, VOTE: Mr O. I think I have it backwards- The trash-themed kills may actually be Mafia kills. Why? Because there's one Onion character we forgot- the Junksmith! Maybe he's the one the Mafia are sending out to kill people (Because on Night 1 EM the Bruiser was sent out to kill). Connor's kill may have been a vigilante, because the SK has neglected to attack on 2 days so far.

Wesley

12-25-2007, 09:36 AM

I think Mr.O is a bigger threat right now then Chaucer. Vote: Mr.Onion

PurpleKoopa

12-25-2007, 10:42 AM

VOTE COUNT!

Mr.Onion - 5 - (Roland, regeneratorizer, ducklegion, Coolguy, Wesley)
chaucer - 2 - (Sillyman, PlasmaCannonsRule)

6 to hang!

Roland

12-25-2007, 11:44 AM

I haven't been able to post for almost 24 hours (lotsa Christmas stuffz), but I'm back to say that I still have the same argument: Mr.Onion is scum. If anybody needs all the reasons in quote form, those I am happy to deliver.

CheeseLord

12-25-2007, 12:07 PM

I have a reasonably good theory that explains who the mafia are. However, I need proof, and that cannot be attained in this day. I'm fairly sure I'll live until tomorrow, so I don't really see any need to explain my theory now. It wouldn't be believed anyway. At any rate, I agree with the evidence. Vote: Mr.Onion. It is now night, so no talking.

PlasmaCannonsRule

12-25-2007, 12:55 PM

OVERKILL!!!!!! VOTE: Mr. Onion

PurpleKoopa

12-25-2007, 01:29 PM

END OF DAY VOTE COUNT!

Mr.Onion - 6 - (Roland, regeneratorizer, ducklegion, Coolguy, Wesley, CheeseLord)
chaucer - 2 - (Sillyman, PlasmaCannonsRule)

6 votes to hang!

~~

The mob has spoken. Mr.Onion is taken toward the noose. Someone in the crowd scoffs, "Any last words?"

"No! You don't know what you're doing," says Mr.Onion. "I am just another villager of Eisburg!"

You start to tug at the rope.

"Okay okay okay, I'm a Mafia goon!" he starts to squeal. "But I will never tell you who my friends are. I'll never talk. NEVER! You better say your prayers right now, because you're as good as gone anyway. Hahahaha!"

You give it another tug -

"AAH! Okay okay! I'll talk! The big boss, the big man, the head cheese, the marshmallow head... is-"

PFOOT!

A dart hits Mr.Onion on the neck. He collapses.

"I can't tell whether I should be very happy or very scared..."

"Just like I can't tell whether to kill myself or go bowling!"

Mr.Onion/Onion Thug has been hanged. He was in the MAFIA!

~~

chaucer has been replaced with Blackduck!

ALIVE

Blackduck (replacing chaucer/Julian)
CheeseLord
Coolguy
ducklegion
PlasmaCannonsRule
regeneratorizer
Roland
Sillyman
Wesley (replacing Licking Post)DEAD

diginova (Night 1, squashed and burnt, Betty/Townie)
ElMikkino (Day 1, hanged, Bruiser/Mafia)
Connor S. (Night 2, buried in trash, Ghost Dog/Mason)
Hammered (Night 2, sliced in two, Ghost Monkey/Mason)
Ufo-Man (Day 2, hanged, Ice Mice/Townie)
SpaceManiac (Night 3, buried in trash, Kinyova Sr./Townie)
Mr.Onion (Day 3, hanged, Onion Thug/Mafia)~~

It's Night 4! Are we having fun yet? :D Send in your PMs!

PurpleKoopa

12-26-2007, 04:38 PM

Another smell lifts through the windows. Or it would have. This time you remembered to shut the window. You get up and run outside anyway though.

Maybe you should have stayed inside. Yet another pile of trash is in the center of town. Everyone digs through the pile to see who was kicked off this time. Food containers, empty potion bottles, logs... No, no victim here.

Wait a second... Holy Bodzha! The logs resemble... Blackduck! You put the logs together - yep, that's Blackduck alright. Oh well, now on to business as usual...

Blackduck/Punch was buried in trash. He was a townie.

~~
ALIVE

CheeseLord
Coolguy
ducklegion
PlasmaCannonsRule
regeneratorizer
Roland
Sillyman
Wesley (replacing Licking Post)DEAD

diginova (Night 1, squashed and burnt, Betty/Townie)
ElMikkino (Day 1, hanged, Bruiser/Mafia)
Connor S. (Night 2, buried in trash, Ghost Dog/Mason)
Hammered (Night 2, sliced in two, Ghost Monkey/Mason)
Ufo-Man (Day 2, hanged, Ice Mice/Townie)
SpaceManiac (Night 3, buried in trash, Kinyova Sr./Townie)
Mr.Onion (Day 3, hanged, Onion Thug/Mafia)
Blackduck (replacing chaucer/Julian) (Night 4, buried in trash, Punch/Townie)
~~
It's Day 4! 5 to hang!

We're down to 8 players now, so please do your best to not lurk or anything!

Coolguy

12-26-2007, 05:42 PM

Blackduck!?!? That was a weird choice.

Anyways, the Mafia are almost definately using a system sometimes done on Mafiascum but not here. They choose one of their own to make the kill each night. Apparently, on Night 1, they chose EM the Bruiser to kill because he was the least likely to be inspected or the least valuable. And on the past 3 nights, they must've been using their 2nd least-likely to be inspected member, because all of the people have been killed by a Junksmith. I've been going after unlikely-to-be-inspected people the last 2 nights because of this.

Last night, I snuck behind Ducklegion (he'd only woken up to vote Mafia, so I assumed that the Mafia were telling him to post those in order to cause less suspicion). I found that he stayed home.

On the nights I inspected Cheeselord, DL, the Junksmith was used to kill, so we know these 2 aren't the Junksmith. That leaves the following 6 as possible junksmiths:

Coolguy
PlasmaCannonsRule
Regeneratorizer
Roland
Sillyman
Wesley

Now, taking out myself and Roland because I'm pretty sure both of us are townies and taking out Regen because he's likely to be inspected...

PlasmaCannonsRule
Sillyman
Wesley

One of those 3 is the Junksmith, probably. And who by far is the most suspicious on that list? :p VOTE: PLASMACANNONSRULE! He didn't vote Elmikkino and only voted Mr O once the lynch was already complete. Not to mention his general craziness.

Sillyman

12-26-2007, 05:50 PM

Yay! You lynched a mafia while I was busy! If I was there before day ended, I would have jumped on that well placed bandwagon. Judging by the number of players, there should be two mafia left. We still have the ratios we have at the beginning... We can do this!:D
Anyways... I'm not much of a thinker, so I'll wait for Coolguy's report. I still trust him due to undisputed roleclaim and assistance in lynching two mafia...
Pre-post edit: Oh, wait, he already posted. Hey, I'm not sure if I understand your post, but if you inspected Cheeselord while the junksmith was killing, shouldn't he be off that list?
Edit after thought: Very well then. I agree with you. Ignoring the error of putting Cheeselord on the list, we have 3 suspicious, 2 to kill. I know I'm a townie, and you have convincing evidence against PCR, so VOTE: PCR!

Coolguy

12-26-2007, 05:54 PM

Yeah, that was a mistake- It's fixed now.

Sillyman

12-26-2007, 05:57 PM

regeneratorizer

12-26-2007, 06:28 PM

What's with the suspicion? Was I not the second voter on both Mr. O and Elmikk?

...Meh, I suppose it doesn't matter, though.

PCR is suspicious, though, so VOTE: PCR!

Coolguy

12-26-2007, 06:29 PM

Anyways, it would help if you could plainly state your evidence for Roland again. Not that I doubt you, but yeah... and why don't you inspect Regen tonight. If he's Mafia, we lynch him! If he's town, then we lynch Wesley! If today has a well-placed kill, then we win tomorrow!

I'm not going to say my inspections in advance, just in case I'm wrong about PCR (I highly doubt it, though).

Roland has been going after Mafia all game (especially Mr O), his claim is undisputed, and he's one of the few people who've gone the entire game without doing anything suspicious.

CheeseLord

12-26-2007, 06:31 PM

What makes you so certain that the mafia are choosing who gets to go kill? After all, the first night, digi was killed by the Bruiser, who we lynched the next day, and every other night, the Junksmith has been the one to kill. Also, the fact that there were two kills on only one night means that there is almost certainly no SK, which would probably mean an inventor or skitzo, perhaps Black Market Bob. Anyway, I don't appear to be dead yet, and revealing my theory really only makes sense as a preemptive last gasp, so I'll save that for when I'm about to die. Somehow, I get the feeling that will be very soon.

PlasmaCannonsRule

12-26-2007, 07:05 PM

Well, my only defence is;

1. I didn't participate in the ElMik lynch due to my brain being out of whack the first time I logged on, and the second time the lynch had already occured!

2. I've been acting wierd because everyone is driving me crazy, pointing out every single tiny tactical error I make! Oops, rant alert!

Now then, for evidence;

Coolguy

I'd say he's probably townie, but he could possibly be mafia, lying about his role. I'd say he's town though.

Roland

The main accuser of me. However, other than one case of rapid vote swinging, I have nothing to point out against him.

Ducklegion

Hasn't really pointed out evidence. Really, he just pops out, bandwagons, and then leaves. However, the only way I say he could be mafia is if CG is also mafia, due to CG's inspection.

Sillyman

The only evidence I can point out against him is Digi's death after (albeit illegally) voting him.

Regen

No, he is not an MC. My head just blew up that day. Can't say whether he's town or mafia....

Wesley

Definetely town. He lynched MO and (I think EM).

I would say to inspect Regen (which CG is already planning on apparently), and vote SM. We can find out who else is mafia later..... And, anyhow, I'll finish this up with a Vote: Sillyman!

Wesley

12-26-2007, 07:47 PM

Sorry, but I'm going to have to vote PCR. Vote: PCR I really don't want to, as you say you believe that's I'm a townie, but you have (slightly) more evidence again you.

CheeseLord

12-26-2007, 07:51 PM

There are certainly a few confused facts in PCR's summary, not the least of which is that it doesn't seem to include me. It certainly isn't impossible that DL is mafia, as CG only said he couldn't be the Junksmith. At any rate, I think the evidence is pretty convincing, so I will Vote: PlasmaCannonsRule. And it's now night, so no talking.

PurpleKoopa

12-26-2007, 09:01 PM

END OF DAY VOTE COUNT!

PlasmaCannonsRule - 5 - (Coolguy, Sillyman, regeneratorizer, Wesley, CheeseLord)
Sillyman - 1 - (PlasmaCannonsRule)

5 votes to hang!

Man, that went fast. Scene to come!

PurpleKoopa

12-26-2007, 09:21 PM

It doesn't take long to find a culprit. PlasmaCannonsRule has been found guilty. He starts to whine a little bit.

"Pwease don't hang me, mister! I pwomise I'll be a good boy from now on!" he moans.

"Does that imply you weren't a good boy already?"

"Uh..."

"Hurry up already!"

PlasmaCannonsRule is hanged. You feel good, but then realize who he is by the lollipop he was holding. It falls to the ground. Everyone feels bad for a while...

...

...

"Dibs on the lollipop."

PlasmaCannonsRule/Bobby Joe has been hanged. He was a townie.

--
ALIVE

CheeseLord
Coolguy
ducklegion
regeneratorizer
Roland
Sillyman
Wesley (replacing Licking Post)DEAD

diginova (Night 1, squashed and burnt, Betty/Townie)
ElMikkino (Day 1, hanged, Bruiser/Mafia)
Connor S. (Night 2, buried in trash, Ghost Dog/Mason)
Hammered (Night 2, sliced in two, Ghost Monkey/Mason)
Ufo-Man (Day 2, hanged, Ice Mice/Townie)
SpaceManiac (Night 3, buried in trash, Kinyova Sr./Townie)
Mr.Onion (Day 3, hanged, Onion Thug/Mafia)
Blackduck (replacing chaucer/Julian) (Night 4, buried in trash, Punch/Townie)
PlasmaCannonsRule (Day 4, hanged, Bobby Joe/Townie)--

It's Night 5! Only 7 people left - ooooo! Send your - oh, you know the drill already.

Mr.Onion

12-27-2007, 02:55 AM

WOAH! o_o I didn't even get a chance to post my last gasp since an entire day went by whilst I was asleep! Meh, go scum!

Wesley

12-27-2007, 11:42 AM

I thought there were no last gasps... Or are just simple "Go team!" ones okay?

Roland

12-27-2007, 11:43 AM

There are. But they can't be helpful in any way.

Also, I was away that whole day, too! Stupid alternate timezone. *kicks globe*

EDIT: And PK, it's "hung", not "hanged". But 'hanged' sounds cool!

PurpleKoopa

12-27-2007, 05:17 PM

Please don't post at night if it's not a rule abiding last gasp! Getting a little annoyed of that...

~~

Sleep... sleep is good... it's taking your mind off all of the troubles off today... and tomorrow... and the days before today and after tomorrow.

Another day, another pile of garbage. You've gotten used to digging through it by now. You should wash your hands in between doing it, though. In fact, it's now hardly even a shock anymore to find... eh, whoever it is. Say, it looks a bit like... ducklegion!

You find that ducklegion was wearing some sort of helmet. You take it off - great Gorka! You find a face that would make any red haired arena spectator swoon. Although you admit it has been a little torn up having been covered in garbage... Now onto - um, whatever we were doing.

ducklegion/Killbor has been buried in trash. He was a 2-shot Vigilante.

~~
ALIVE

CheeseLord
Coolguy
regeneratorizer
Roland
Sillyman
Wesley (replacing Licking Post)DEAD

diginova (Night 1, squashed and burnt, Betty/Townie)
ElMikkino (Day 1, hanged, Bruiser/Mafia)
Connor S. (Night 2, buried in trash, Ghost Dog/Mason)
Hammered (Night 2, sliced in two, Ghost Monkey/Mason)
Ufo-Man (Day 2, hanged, Ice Mice/Townie)
SpaceManiac (Night 3, buried in trash, Kinyova Sr./Townie)
Mr.Onion (Day 3, hanged, Onion Thug/Mafia)
Blackduck (replacing chaucer/Julian) (Night 4, buried in trash, Punch/Townie)
PlasmaCannonsRule (Day 4, hanged, Bobby Joe/Townie)
ducklegion (Night 5, buried in trash, Killbor/2-Shot Vigilante)--

It's Day 5! 6 people are left... 4 to hang!

Coolguy

12-27-2007, 05:27 PM

NOBODY VOTE! We are at Lynch or Lose- If we mislynch today, the Mafia win!!!!!!

Once again, the Mafia chose to use the Junksmith. Last night, I tracked Sillyman and he stayed put as well. Now, taking out all the people I inspected in addition to myself and Roland leaves only 2 possible junksmiths- Wesley or Regeneratorizer. Both of you two claim NOW. I'm far more suspicious of Wes than Regen at the moment, because of Wes' protecting-EM-ness, lurking, and only voting Mr O and EM once they were about to be lynched anyways.

And that still leaves one other gangster- the Diabolical Onion himself. I believe it to be someone I've been very suspicious of for most of the game yet never bothered to vote because there were more suspicious people... This person happens to be Cheeselord. :p He's been one of the last to vote both Mafia and immediately tried to make me look evil as soon as I claimed as a cop. Not to mention that everybody I've inspected (other than Sillyman) has been shot except Cheeselord. Cheeselord, you better claim immediately as well!

I'm not voting yet. I'd like to hear from the suspected before day ends, because if we mislynch, we lose. We can't be careful enough with such dire consequences.

EDIT: Also, that solves our 2-kills-at-once problem- DL killed Hammered.

CheeseLord

12-27-2007, 06:21 PM

I will roleclaim as a Clockwork Robot. You would probably think that someone who was built as part of the war against the Onion Ring would have some sort of special power, but you would be wrong, as I'm a vanilla townie. I'm fairly sure I will be killed today, but really, I expected to be lynched long ago, and I'm still here. And Roland, the past tense of hang (in the sense of a person) is indeed hanged.

Coolguy

12-27-2007, 08:31 PM

Wes? Regen?

regeneratorizer

12-27-2007, 10:07 PM

Sorry - just got home from work.

I'm quite confused as to why Roland is a proven townie. Why is that, again? The only thing I see in his favor is he voted(If I'm not mistaken, I'm too lazy to look back) Elmikk third and Mr. O first. Then again, though, I voted(Again, could be wrong, but don't want to go check) both of them second.

Meh, anyways, I'm Mickey. Hel-oh? You can decide whether an irritant old guy who would love nothing more than for you to not invade his privacy has a power. I'm sure the majority of you will choose the correct answer.

Edit: Also, be aware that on Saturday, I'll be gone from around 3:00PM till 4 or 5 in the morning. Work, then employee party. Gonna tear the place up!

Oh, and on Sunday, I'll have Church, so expect me gone from 8:00 AM till 1:00PM. Maybe till 3:00 PM, even... I forget whether we have the potluck this sunday or next. Yeah, that happens when you're baptist.

Coolguy

12-27-2007, 10:51 PM

Roland

12-27-2007, 10:55 PM

Yay, it's day!

And I don't have an awful lot to say.

And that rhymes, hey!

Anyway...

~~~

Okay, here's a possible list of who could be who could be who:

CheeseLord: Diabolical Onion

Regeneratorizer: Diabolical Onion or Junksmith

Sillyman: Diabolical Onion

Wesley: Diabolical Onion or Junksmith

...Yeah, I have to go to dinner soon, I have don't have time to post my suspicions or anything.

Sillyman

12-27-2007, 11:19 PM

Well, that past day was unfortunate... we went from lynch and win to lynch or lose... Go town!

Coolguy

12-27-2007, 11:27 PM

Just to remind everyone, ALL townies will need to vote once we track down a Mafia, so none of you go off lurking forever. :p

Also, Silly, you're not dead.

Sillyman

12-27-2007, 11:32 PM

Coolguy

12-28-2007, 12:59 PM

Well, I think this game will start soon, since DL is hosting this game and Sillyman will probably soon die. I suspect that this game will be up by the 29th or 30th.

Elmikkino the dead Mafia said that about this game in another topic. It might be of use. :p EM expected Silly to die- Hmmm... Maybe the mafia are shooting B players in order to speed up DL's game? I doubt it, but it would explain all the B deaths rather than me, Roland, Regen, or Hammered being attacked.

At this point, I'm guessing the Mafia team is either Cheeselord/Wesley or Sillyman/Wesley.

Roland

12-28-2007, 01:00 PM

I know that, Coolguy. Note the lack of a "Bah"! But nonetheless, there is a decision to be made... think carefully, everybody. Which two of the four/six must be mafia? It's not me. I would suggest following CG's advice and finding the Junksmith first. So that makes it one out of two. I really don't want to lose again!

Why do you want us to specifically find the Junksmith first? Are you the Diabolical Onion or something? Okay okay, I'll recall all the evidence against everybody here, because it's Lynch or Lose, as has been repeated several dozen times...

CheeseLord

Perhaps the most suspicious here? Let's take a walk down memory lane...

I would think there would be better targets out there than diginova for the mafia to kill. Of course, it gives rise to the school of thought CG is using to suspect Hammered, which is not typically a good type of reasoning. Actually, having just read through a list of mafia strategies, CG appears to be using plenty of the logical fallacies that mafia use. For example, trying to use the "You're alive, so you must be evil!" argument, claiming to be a cop to divert the doctor, or trying to convince Connor to roleclaim a power role. Maybe I'm overthinking things a bit, so I'll stop reading these strategies for now. Of course, it's also possible he really is a tracker, and just got unlucky. I'll hold my vote for now, at least until something else comes up.

The above quote is when he first started to look suspicious. Making CG look suspicious, and (less importantly) talked about the kill, which I find a bit... Hmmm-ish.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you said you were the only one who everyone had wanted to kill. Yet here you are, still alive. At any rate, I don't see too much that's worthy of my vote yet. I am reasonably sure the two claimed masons are being honest, and I don't see ElMikkino as having done anything terribly evil yet.

Here he is, not voting ElMikkino in the middle of the bandwagon. Now, while not voting after only three people had voted, while still quite suspect, given the calibre of the voters, it isn't as suspicious as it could have been - But I am also pretty sure that CheeseLord would have hung (there's that word again!) around for the EM bandwagon period, which makes me very suspicious of him.

Outright lying is never a good strategy for a townie. Also, why would you be trying to draw attention away from someone else? You claim to be a vanilla townie, but trying to draw away attention from someone else implies that either you already know who is a townie, or you wanted to protect your fellow scum, neither of which is likely for a vanilla townie. I will Vote: Ufo-Man. As for the two kills, I would guess that there's probably either an inventor or a skitzo out there.

Okay, he voted Ufo-Man first. Before anybody says, "Well, you voted him too! And even more than the majority of the players wanted to lynch him because people voted as overkill!", let me explain: CheeseLord, in that post, judging by what he wrote, voted Ufo-Man for, not for the fact that he knew there was a mason recruiter, which most of us did, but for the shaky fact that he's scum because he's lying. I mean, protecting his fellow scum? Who could he be protecting from lynches by doing that? Still, his voting of Ufo-Man isn't that suspicious, given that the evidence here, although not as good as the evidence that most of us used (albeit wrong), is still pretty solid evidence.

I have a reasonably good theory that explains who the mafia are. However, I need proof, and that cannot be attained in this day. I'm fairly sure I'll live until tomorrow, so I don't really see any need to explain my theory now. It wouldn't be believed anyway. At any rate, I agree with the evidence. Vote: Mr.Onion. It is now night, so no talking.

And he voted Mr.Onion last. He didn't really do much else suspicious from then on... On to our next subject!

Regeneratorizer

I honestly don't know about him. He's voted both mafia 2'nd in their bandwagons:

Hmmm... Maybe PK made an error, but probably not. The mafia may have given themselves away! Might be a quick game.

I'll go with Coolguy and VOTE: Elmikk

Alright, back from work, and after reading the topic, I will go ahead and VOTE: Onion!

Chaucer, If that theory about him having a PMing role is true, is a serial killer. The other night, there were two kills. We mistook that for UFO, a supposed mafia, teaming up with Connor, killing connor. However, this was not the case, as UFO is a proven townie. So, there is an unexplained extra kill that night. The only explanation I can see is that one very lurk-ish Chaucer is a SK.

(okay, he was kinda third in that one, but Coolguy unvoted and revoted)

...But, I still don't trust him that much. We can't trust ANYONE on Lynch or Lose, really.

Sillyman

The first time we really suspected him was when Diginova randomly voted Sillyman (albeit illegal), and then Diginova died. meh. I didn't really like this evidence that much...

[quote=Mr.Onion;151986]For what? If you're going to accuse me, at least explain why. Doing otherwise would be scummy.[quote]
Uh... I think he means you frowning at the town being powerful. But I'm not sure, because I can't read minds. And... Might as well Vote (To throw a boulder at): ElMikkino. Roland's post made some sense. Go town!He voted ElMikkino, but...

Very convincing logic, Coolguy. Very convincing. Which reminds me... What if you aren't townie? Then again, why would you lynch a fellow mafia. Meh. After some thought: Vote:Chaucer

Instead of voting Mr.Onion, he votes Chaucer (who is now proven to be a townie)!

Meh, I don't know whether he's mafia or no, to be honest.

Wesley

Okay, he bandwagons a lot. As town, and as mafia. But what I find interesting is that although he bandwagons on PCR and Ufo-Man:

Not sure if he's lynched yet, but if he's not, Vote: Ufo-Man. There's a lot of evidence here, and it's too much for me to not vote.

Sorry, but I'm going to have to vote PCR. Vote: PCR I really don't want to, as you say you believe that's I'm a townie, but you have (slightly) more evidence again you.

...He seemed very reluctant to vote ElMikkino:

I also can't really find much evidence against ElM yet. He does seem to be going after the good players, but... I'm not sure who to vote for right now, and everyone else seems to be acting pretty normal right now...

And ended up voting him seventh:

I don't know... I just don't want to vote ElM for some reason... I don't think there's enough evidence against him. But... I might as well add to the lynch. If he turns out to be mafia, and I don't vote him, that won't look very good for me, and I don't want to die this early... Vote: ElMikkino

END OF DAY VOTE COUNT!

ElMikkino - 8 - Coolguy, regeneratorizer, Roland, Sillyman, Connor S., Ufo-Man, Wesley, ducklegion

8 votes to hang!

Day scene coming soon, juys...

He voted for Mr.Onion fourth, although I don't really find that suspicious:

I think Mr.O is a bigger threat right now then Chaucer. Vote: Mr.Onion

Is he town or mafia? Ugh... If there's not a good candidate for either mafia role, he probably it.

EDIT: Wesley is innocent! This post is totally outdated!

~~~

SO, TWO OF THESE FOUR ARE MAFIA! I LIKE SHOUTING IN BOLD BECAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE I HAVE SOME REALLY IMPORTANT TO SAY, EVEN IF I DON'T!

Coolguy

12-28-2007, 01:05 PM

I believe Wes is our best bet. I might reconsider if he posts a decent claim, but if he doesn't within 12 hours, I'll vote him. I'll track Cheese or Silly tonight so we can tell which is the true Onion.

Also, just in case we're wrong about the lynch, doctor, protect whoever you want- Not necessarily me! (You're still free to, though:p) If we're wrong, you are the last hope we have, and if the Mafia know you're definately going to be protecting me, then the kill won't be blocked and we'll lose.

CheeseLord

12-28-2007, 01:18 PM

He wants to get rid of the Junksmith first because there are two suspects rather than four. Now, because you're going to kill me without a defense, and probably even with one, here it is:
Okay, he voted Ufo-Man first. Before anybody says, "Well, you voted him too! And even more than the majority of the players wanted to lynch him because people voted as overkill!", let me explain: CheeseLord, in that post, judging by what he wrote, voted Ufo-Man for, not for the fact that he knew there was a mason recruiter, which most of us did, but for the shaky fact that he's scum because he's lying. I mean, protecting his fellow scum? Who could he be protecting from lynches by doing that? Still, his voting of Ufo-Man isn't that suspicious, given that the evidence here, although not as good as the evidence that most of us used (albeit wrong), is still pretty solid evidence.
First of all, you knew there was a mason recruiter despite the fact that there wasn't one? There are only two ghosts in LL2, and both were accounted for. Second, speaking from experience, no good townie should lie. It does not help the town, so I stand by my vote there.
And he voted Mr.Onion last. He didn't really do much else suspicious from then on... On to our next subject!

I voted for him last because he was suspected for much the same reason I was, and I know that I am a townie.

Wesley

12-28-2007, 03:02 PM

Do not kill me! I've been trying to keep this a secret, as I would most likely be night killed, but I'm going to have to role-claim now. I'm the doctor. I have also protected Coolguy every single night. (Except the first, when I protected Hammered) I am not the mafia. I'm going to read all of the posts above, and edit this, as I rushed to claim. Watch this post!

Roland

12-28-2007, 03:13 PM

Wesley

12-28-2007, 03:20 PM

*gives coffee* As for my role name, isn't that illegal, and punishable by Mod-kill? If not, I'll gladly tell everyone. I'm just not sure on the punishing rules.

CheeseLord

12-28-2007, 03:25 PM

No, you won't be modkilled for it. If what you say is true, then Regen must be the Junksmith. I think I have a guaranteed way of proving it, the only problem being that we lose valuable players in the process, which at this point is not a wise move.

Wesley

12-28-2007, 03:28 PM

Okay then, I'm Healiana! How are you feeling? ...That's all I have to say, really.

regeneratorizer

12-28-2007, 03:31 PM

It isn't, I've already roleclaimed as Mickey.

So, if we assume that Wesley is a townie, and that Silly or CL aren't the Junksmiths, that leaves.... Oh, boy. I think I have an exciting day in front of me.

The only defense I have is: I know I'm not mafia. Of course, that doesn't account for much, but.... I think we are making a mistake on thinking Roland is a proven townie. In my mind, if I am not the Junksmith, there leaves only one possibility: Roland. Roland has done about as much as me to deserve the status of "Proven Townie". On average, we both voted for Mr. O and Elm equally.

....Of course, I'm probably doomed, anyways. Bah, curses! I feel really bad now.

Anyways, I'll not vote Roland yet(Probably because no one else will), so I'll leave the floor open for discussion, and wait for CG to get back.

regeneratorizer

12-28-2007, 03:33 PM

I demand a cup of coffee!

I also demand to know your role name!

EDIT: Don't worry, you're innocent to me, I just want more proof, not that it really matters.

HUMUNGOUSLY GIANT EDIT: Regen is scum - VOTE: Regen!

Regen is absolutely 100% logically proven to be the junksmith! Go check for yourself!

Sorry for the double post - but I just saw this. Aren't you being a little hasty, Roland? This being the last day, I'd think you would be a little more cautious with those votes if you were a townie. I'd say I'm hardly 100% mafia - from an observers standpoint, I'd say I'm only 50%. Of course, I know its 0%, but I'd say that if I were on either team, so that doesn't matter.

...The point is, don't be so hasty! Wait for discussion!

Roland

12-28-2007, 03:36 PM

But the only possible mafia groups are:

Sillyman as DB, regen as Junksmith, and

CheeseLord as DB, regen as Junksmith

The only other way is that I myself would be the junksmith, which I know I'm not, so you have to be the mafia, at least from my perspective!

regeneratorizer

12-28-2007, 03:40 PM

And you, from mine. I really don't know what to do now: I'd like to survive this mafia game. But, I guess its up to Coolguy. Ugh, I'm doomed!

Don't tase me, bro!

CheeseLord

12-28-2007, 03:44 PM

One reason I think Roland is most a townie is that he roleclaimed early on in the game. This would be an incredibly dangerous gamble if he was mafia, which would rely on the fact that he knew that no one else had that role. I do not think this is likely, but it is, at least in theory, possible. Nevertheless, I'm inclined to believe his claim. Of course, there are always other possibilities to be considered. Now that everyone has claimed, it's not a good idea to take any claim for granted.

Roland

12-28-2007, 03:50 PM

And you, from mine. I really don't know what to do now: I'd like to survive this mafia game. But, I guess its up to Coolguy. Ugh, I'm doomed!

Don't tase me, bro!

This is further proof that you're mafia! If you weren't the Junksmith, I would have to be the Junksmith! And yet, here you are, still not voting me! Why aren't you townies all voting regen?!?!

EDIT: And Coolguy, once regen is lynched and proven evil, for tonight, track either Sillyman or CheeseLord! One of those two is the Diabolical Onion! It's a guaranteed win!

regeneratorizer

12-28-2007, 03:54 PM

This is further proof that you're mafia! If you weren't the Junksmith, I would have to be the junksmith! And yet, here you are, still not voting me! Why aren't you all voting regen!?!?!

Whoa, whoa! Are you saying being reluctant to vote on a possible mafia-win day is mafia-like behavior? What's with this logic? I'm not voting you because Coolguy hasn't come back yet, and, sorry if this offends anyone, but he is probably the smartest out of all of us. I'd have to say this post is incredibly suspicious, Roland.

EDIT: Also note the fact that Roland is being endorsed by Cheeselord, who has a 50% chance of being mafia. And how they are both pretty much posting the same things. Mafia buddies, maybe? As of now, they are both of the chat, and could be conversing as I type this post.

Roland

12-28-2007, 03:58 PM

There's a post from you in Pirate Mafia that adequately desribes my feelings right now:

But I can't seem to find it. It was the one about you pulling your hair out, and how you said you went prematurely bald! :p

Wesley

12-28-2007, 03:58 PM

This is further proof that you're mafia! If you weren't the Junksmith, I would have to be the Junksmith! And yet, here you are, still not voting me! Why aren't you townies all voting regen?!?!

Whoa, whoa! Are you saying being reluctant to vote on a possible mafia-win day is mafia-like behavior? What's with this logic? I'm not voting you because Coolguy hasn't come back yet, and, sorry if this offends anyone, but he is probably the smartest out of all of us. I'd have to say this post is incredibly suspicious, Roland.

Roland's post IS suspicious, actually. However, I'm don't think that Roland is mafia. He could just be an impatient townie. I will wait for Coolguy to come back.

CheeseLord

12-28-2007, 04:01 PM

I was not really siding with either of you there. I do think Regen is the most likely suspect for being mafia, but I do agree that we ought to think a bit more carefully about who we vote off in a lynch or lose situation. Actually, I was sort of hoping to test something, but I very much doubt anyone else would agree with it. I will at the very least wait until CG comes back before making up my mind.

Roland

12-28-2007, 04:02 PM

But this is very, very solid evidence!

I hate it when people absolutely need Coolguy to make a logical decision. Let's put it this way...

Regen or I must be the Junksmith. I know regen is the Junksmith, because I know I'm town, which is why I'm voting him. Regen, if he was townie, should be voting me, because if he wasn't the Junksmith, I would be 100% guaranteed to be mafia in his eyes. But why is he not voting? Because he's a mafia!

regeneratorizer

12-28-2007, 04:04 PM

And whats with Cheeselord always talking about some "Surefire way to find the mafia"? What would that be? I've found that really suspicious everytime you say that, and I'd like you to explain yourself.

EDIT: Roland, I've already explained my reasons for not voting, and your being that hasty to vote is proof to my "Mafia eyes" that YOU indeed are mafia. However, that doesn't change that fact that this COULD be the final day! I'd prefer it if all the townies discussed this first, since this will decide which team wins or loses.

Coolguy said on the chat he would be gone for a while. Rushing things seems very mafia to me, especially at this time(And Roland, you were on the chat when he said this, I know you saw it!)

CheeseLord

12-28-2007, 04:13 PM

So you're taking Wesley's roleclaim on faith? You probably should at least consider the possibility that he's lying. After all, it's pretty clear the mafia haven't targeted CG yet, so there's actually no proof that there even is a doctor. Although I must admit it would seem odd to make roles for LL2 Mafia that doesn't include Mickey or Healiana, or a mafia game in general without a doctor.

As for my plan, read the rules to this game carefully. Specifically rule 3. It says that we are allowed a No Lynch, although the game started with a night. If we were to let the day go by without a lynch, it would allow CG to track Regen, with Wesley protecting CG. That way, if CG died, Wesley would clearly be mafia, and if Regen was actually the Junksmith, CG would know, and would be alive to tell the tale. Of course, the mafia might decide not to kill someone, as that would seem to incriminate Regen, but then, we wouldn't have lost anything.

Roland

12-28-2007, 04:16 PM

Oh, this is just like Loony Mafia all over again:

CheeseLord, of course there is a bloomin' doctor! Without one the game would be broken!

CheeseLord

12-28-2007, 04:27 PM

For the most part that's true, and most likely it's true in this case, but it's more out of custom than a need to balance the game. It's entirely possible to have a game without a doctor. Take, for example, the C9 setup you mentioned earlier in the chat. It is possible to play it without a doctor, or even without a cop. It doesn't actually break the game.

regeneratorizer

12-28-2007, 04:33 PM

Cheeselord, your plan is brilliant! ...For a mafia that is. Yeah, lets vote no lynch, then CG can inspect me, then Wes can protect CG. Meanwhile, CG wastes an investigation on me and the doctor protects him while the mafia kills the doctor and then kills CG the next night. It's infallible!

The mafia are becoming more transparent with each post.

CG, come back! I would like to see what you have to say in all of this.

CheeseLord

12-28-2007, 04:44 PM

Indeed you are. The inspection is only wasted if you're admitting to being mafia. Otherwise, it would serve as proof or your innocence, and most likely Roland's guilt. I'm fairly certain of Roland and Wesley's claims, so that leaves you to be the Junksmith. I'd like to hear what CG has to say, but until then, Vote: Regeneratorizer.

Coolguy

12-28-2007, 08:08 PM

Wes is definately good- The town needs a doctor and I was already guessing that it would be Healiana! :p

Hmmm- I see the point of Roland's post. Either Roland or Regen is definately the Junksmith, since everybody else has been tracked (other than me, but I've been the one tracking people :p). But what I considered as soon as I came back is whether Regen is really the one to vote...

Roland claimed early in the game as the Historian- Although his claim was early, it was of an obscure-ish character. Regen only claimed once we bothered him about it, but his claim is that of a non-obscure character that I'm very sure PK would put into the game. :p Regen seems to be acting as he does as a townie. I can't tell very well with Roland, though.

The fact that my #1 most suspicious target, Cheeselord, is allying with Roland makes me reconsider whether he is truly good. The fact that Roland also immediately started this bandwagon as soon as I announced that I'd be gone for most of the day in the Chat makes me further wonder whether I was correct about him, especially since he was trying to end day before I came back.

And, looking back, it makes sense that Roland would go over all that trouble to win the cop's support- Then the Mafia will be able to have somebody who's unlikely to get inspected. That explains why the Mafia didn't just switch to having the Diabolical Onion kill instead of the Junksmith last night to give the town less info.

Hmmm- Very interesting. I'm considering voting, but I'll go re-read the topic first. It's impossible to be careful enough on Lynch-or-Lose. Cheeselord and Roland, you two better unvote NOW.

CheeseLord

12-28-2007, 08:34 PM

In that case, I will Unvote. I still have my doubts about Regen, as the only reason an inspection can be wasted is if the outcome is already known. I still don't know why you think the mafia have any choice of who they send to kill. The Onion certainly wouldn't want to do the dirty work himself, so I can imagine he'd send lower ranking people like the Junksmith to do it for him.

Roland

12-28-2007, 10:31 PM

Coolguy

12-28-2007, 10:56 PM

Hmmm...

Tier 1 (People who are good)
Coolguy- Woody Woodsman, Tracker
Wesley- Healiana, Doctor

Tier 2 (People who are not the Junksmith and not proven good)
Cheeselord- Clockwork Robot, Vanilla
Sillyman- Gorka, Vanilla

Tier 3 (People who are possibly the Junksmith and not proven good)
Regeneratorizer- Mickey, Vanilla
Roland- Historian, Vanilla

It's actually possible that both Regen and Roland are Onions. :p I doubt it, though, considering that Roland would have been trying to bandwagon his buddy when it would have been much easier just to vote off somebody more suspicious, such as Cheeselord. Just in case one of those two is evil when we make our choice for a lynch doesn't mean the other is good.

Also, Cheeselord, why are you trying to convince us that there might not even be a doctor? I think PK would be crazy to have a game this size without one.

regeneratorizer

12-28-2007, 11:12 PM

So, who are we going after today? I mean, would it make more sense to go after the Diabolical Onion or the Junksmith?

Sillyman

12-28-2007, 11:37 PM

Equal amount of sense. I just said go for the junksmith because that's narrowed down further. From my perspective, there are 3 unproven people left.

Coolguy

12-28-2007, 11:51 PM

Definately Junksmith, since there's 4 people who could be an Onion and only 2 who could be a Junksmith (and the Junksmiths overlap with the Onions).

regeneratorizer

12-29-2007, 12:17 AM

Coolguy

12-29-2007, 01:13 AM

You know what? This is getting us nowhere, and I'm getting impatient. I, for one, think Wesley is lying about being a doctor. How do I know that? Well, maybe I was lying about my role, as well. I'll go ahead and VOTE: Wesley.

If you were lying about your role, why didn't you say it as soon as Wes claimed!? Bah, this complicates things even more.

CheeseLord

12-29-2007, 07:39 AM

Coolguy

12-29-2007, 09:08 AM

I'm not trying to convince you there isn't a doctor. Taking Regen's claim into account, I'm saying it isn't necessarily Wesley. And at least theoretically, it is possible to have a game without a doctor, or for that matter townies. At any rate, it is possible to determine both the Junksmith and the Doctor for certain, but that would severely reduce our chances of finding the Onion. I won't advocate the plan, however, because it makes it even more likely that I will die, which will lose the game for the town, whether you believe me or not. Unless, of course, other people want to take the chance.

I think I know who you're claiming as, but I doubt PK would put a role that makes the town lose at his/her death.

How would finding the Junksmith hurt our chances of finding the Onion!? Do the Onions have an auto-lose-at-death role or something? :p

EDIT: Now our lynch choice has pretty much become a choice of either Regen or Wes. Regen has acted well in the past, but if he's really some sort of uber-important Mafia, then he'd probably take all the chances he could to look good, including by counter-cllaiming the Doctor. Regen also completely ignored Wes after his 'fake' claim- Why!?!? It would've guaranteed us a lynch of a Mafia.

However, Wes has already been acting evil in the past.

Ugh, this is a hard choice. Doctor, whichever one you are, it might be a good idea to protect Cheeselord.

EDIT 2: Wow, this day has been lasting a ridiculous amount of time. I'm considering voting Regen right now and tracking Roland or Sillyman tonight.

EDIT 3: Ugh, this day is lasting forever without any progress. I'll just go with the person I find the most evil, rather than just go for the Junksmith, because if the Mafia GF really does auto-lose at death, then we'll win if we get him. I'm going to VOTE: ROLAND because we aren't going to make any progress with just discussion.

CheeseLord

12-29-2007, 09:49 AM

No, that's not what I'm claiming as. I am just a vanilla townie. But no sane mafia would kill me, so if I'm going to die, it would be through lynching, which would lose the game for the town. And I posted my plan before, but I'm too lazy to go find it. It would hurt our chances of finding the Onion because it would mean that CG and the doctor, whoever that is, would both die, and the town would be left blaming, and most likely lynching, me. I don't know if the Onion loses at death, so I would say it's still safer to go after the Junksmith.

Edit: Found it
As for my plan, read the rules to this game carefully. Specifically rule 3. It says that we are allowed a No Lynch, although the game started with a night. If we were to let the day go by without a lynch, it would allow CG to track Regen, with Wesley protecting CG. That way, if CG died, Wesley would clearly be mafia, and if Regen was actually the Junksmith, CG would know, and would be alive to tell the tale. Of course, the mafia might decide not to kill someone, as that would seem to incriminate Regen, but then, we wouldn't have lost anything.
The plan could be worked in a reasonably similar way, with only a few minor alterations. Because they are both claiming to be doctors, have both of them protect CG, and CG tracking Regen. One of them is certainly lying, and is probably the Junksmith. That one would not target CG, and would instead try kill someone else. If they did target CG, then the inspection would say nothing, but we wouldn't lose any people. It would be suicide to target the other claimed doctor, and rather pointless to target me, so either Roland or Sillyman would die. CG would live, and the results would tell us who was mafia. Of course, I'm taking a few assumptions in the hope that they save someone, but I feel they are probable enough to be considered true.

Coolguy

12-29-2007, 10:08 AM

UNVOTE and VOTE: No Lynch. I'm suspicious of your claim still, Cheeselord, but that plan should work. Even if one of the 'doctors' dies it would reveal which one is a Mafia.

CheeseLord

12-29-2007, 10:10 AM

That's why I said it was suicide to do so. And I actually have someone agreeing with me. That's a first. I will Vote: No Lynch.

regeneratorizer

12-29-2007, 10:22 AM

Meh, I'll go ahead and VOTE: NO LYNCH.

I'll be at work in a few hours, so... meh. I'll try to submit my night-thingy before then.

Wesley

12-29-2007, 11:50 AM

So who should I protect again?

Coolguy

12-29-2007, 11:50 AM

If you are truly a townie, me. :p

CheeseLord

12-29-2007, 11:56 AM

Just to make sure everyone knows what to do, Regen should protect CG too, and CG should track Regen.

Wesley

12-29-2007, 11:58 AM

Okay, I'll protect CG. Vote: No Lynch

Sillyman

12-29-2007, 12:59 PM

Sounds like a plan. Nothing I can do to stop this, or any flaws I can find in it for that matter, so VOTE: No Lynch

PurpleKoopa

12-29-2007, 06:42 PM

VOTE COUNT!

No Lynch - 4 - (Coolguy, CheeseLord, Wesley, Sillyman)

4 to hang!

--

The town has decided that they should wait before they do any hanging. Well, for today, anyway. Those other times don't count at all, apparently.

--
ALIVE

CheeseLord
Coolguy
regeneratorizer
Roland
Sillyman
Wesley (replacing Licking Post)DEAD

diginova (Night 1, squashed and burnt, Betty/Townie)
ElMikkino (Day 1, hanged, Bruiser/Mafia)
Connor S. (Night 2, buried in trash, Ghost Dog/Mason)
Hammered (Night 2, sliced in two, Ghost Monkey/Mason)
Ufo-Man (Day 2, hanged, Ice Mice/Townie)
SpaceManiac (Night 3, buried in trash, Kinyova Sr./Townie)
Mr.Onion (Day 3, hanged, Onion Thug/Mafia)
Blackduck (replacing chaucer/Julian) (Night 4, buried in trash, Punch/Townie)
PlasmaCannonsRule (Day 4, hanged, Bobby Joe/Townie)
ducklegion (Night 5, buried in trash, Killbor/2-Shot Vigilante)--

It's Night 6! Blah blah de blah blah PMs.

PurpleKoopa

12-30-2007, 11:44 AM

You're more worried now more than ever. You toss and turn in bed, struggling to go to sleep. Eventually, the sunlight enters your cabin. Even if you're still tired from lack of sleep, you must find those responsible. You must.

Another pile of trash is in the center of town. Yeah, you figured as much. Digging through it, you find Wesley!

Oddly enough, the pile of trash smells pretty nice this time! You dig some more to find springs of Frostbane. This could only mean one thing - Wesley was your town doctor. Curse those Mafia scum! It looks like you've got to fight back, or the town will be doomed...

Wesley/Healiana has been buried in trash. He was a Doctor.

--
ALIVE

CheeseLord
Coolguy
regeneratorizer
Roland
SillymanDEAD

diginova (Night 1, squashed and burnt, Betty/Townie)
ElMikkino (Day 1, hanged, Bruiser/Mafia)
Connor S. (Night 2, buried in trash, Ghost Dog/Mason)
Hammered (Night 2, sliced in two, Ghost Monkey/Mason)
Ufo-Man (Day 2, hanged, Ice Mice/Townie)
SpaceManiac (Night 3, buried in trash, Kinyova Sr./Townie)
Mr.Onion (Day 3, hanged, Onion Thug/Mafia)
Blackduck (replacing chaucer/Julian) (Night 4, buried in trash, Punch/Townie)
PlasmaCannonsRule (Day 4, hanged, Bobby Joe/Townie)
ducklegion (Night 5, buried in trash, Killbor/2-Shot Vigilante)
Wesley (replacing Licking Post) (Night 6, buried in trash, Healiana/Doctor)
--

It's Day 6! 3 to hang!

Roland

12-30-2007, 11:56 AM

Is this not enough evidence to prove regen guilty?

Honestly, VOTE: Regen and I told you so!

(lucky I got in this early in the day)

Coolguy

12-30-2007, 12:24 PM

Actually, you silly Junksmith, I'd much rather VOTE: ROLAND! I tracked you last night to find you going to Wesley's house! :p You are Mafia scum, Roland.

Regen is probably the other one- We can prove it tonight. Regen, you protect me, and if I die, then town, lynch Regen off tommorow and win the game!

CheeseLord

12-30-2007, 12:30 PM

In that case, I will Vote: Roland. As it is, I think it makes sense that both are evil, and Roland is trying to distance himself from Regen. Besides, I find it rather unlikely that there would be two doctors. However, Roland is entirely proven evil.

Roland

12-30-2007, 12:32 PM

Bah! PK's or you has made a mistake here! Are you sure you investigated me, and that PK didn't mix up regen with Roland?

Because I am 100% confident that I'm not the Junksmith (or any mafia, for that matter), sand that regen is the Junksmith. This is an actual mistake!

THIS IS BROKEN! Okay, PK better fix that mistake before Sillyman gets here...

Coolguy

12-30-2007, 12:36 PM

It was no mistake, Roland. :p Hurry and vote, Sillyman!

EDIT:
THIS IS BROKEN! Okay, PK better fix that mistake before Sillyman gets here...

Look, it seems Roland neglected to mention Regen as people who would vote him! If I wasn't sure before, I am sure now.

Roland

12-30-2007, 12:44 PM

Coolguy

12-30-2007, 12:46 PM

That lynch won't happen because it's false information, sir. And I didn't mention regen because he knows he's evil and went out to kill Wesley, and probably doesn't want to speed up the process of the knowing (because if it was a lynch, PK would probably notice). I could've, though. Meh.

You are the only person giving false information here. If I hear from PK that there was any mistake about my inspection, then I'll unvote, but I highly doubt it. :p

EDIT: Sillyman, you NEED to vote, since you are the last townie who hasn't voted yet.

Roland

12-30-2007, 04:53 PM

I absolutely hate this game now. Coolguy, you're lying! WHY?!?! Either that, or you better double-check the PM you sent to PK...

Coolguy

12-30-2007, 05:00 PM

Coolguy, you're lying! WHY?!?! Either that, or you better double-check the PM you sent to PK...

Why would I lie!?!? There's no reason to!!! That's a silly excuse.

Sillyman

12-30-2007, 07:24 PM

Coolguy has proven himself. I will trust him. Now is the deciding point in the game. VOTE: ROLAND! I hope I just won this game for the town...

Coolguy

12-30-2007, 07:33 PM

Coolguy has proven himself. I will trust him. Now is the deciding point in the game. VOTE: ROLAND! I hope I just won this game for the town...

There's 2 onions remaining, not 1.

Also, the cake is a lie... along with that inspection!!! :p Just saying that now so Roland stops blaming PK for a broken game. You'll be thanking me for it in a minute, though, town (Except for Roland, who I'm guessing is very mad- I can't blame him!).

G'night, all, and probably goodbye forever. *Prepares gravestone*

EDIT: Oh, yeah, the reason I'm not saying my real inspection is that this is already an illegal post and I don't want to anger the Koopa. :p

PurpleKoopa

12-30-2007, 08:00 PM

VOTE COUNT!

Roland - 3 - (Coolguy, CheeseLord, Sillyman)
regeneratorizer - 1 - (Roland)

3 votes to hang!

--

The votes are in. Roland is brought toward the Festivius pole.

"We know you're the Junksmith, Roland!" says one angry townie.

"No, you don't know what you're talking about!" Roland pleads. "Something's broken, I know it!"

You check the noose. "Oh yeah, the rope is getting frayed. Thanks." You quickly replace. Then, up he goes.

"Noooo! I will be avenged! MUAHAHAH- *glurk*"

Roland/The Diabolical Onion has been hanged. He was the Mafia Godfather!

--
ALIVE

CheeseLord
Coolguy
regeneratorizer
SillymanDEAD

diginova (Night 1, squashed and burnt, Betty/Townie)
ElMikkino (Day 1, hanged, Bruiser/Mafia)
Connor S. (Night 2, buried in trash, Ghost Dog/Mason)
Hammered (Night 2, sliced in two, Ghost Monkey/Mason)
Ufo-Man (Day 2, hanged, Ice Mice/Townie)
SpaceManiac (Night 3, buried in trash, Kinyova Sr./Townie)
Mr.Onion (Day 3, hanged, Onion Thug/Mafia)
Blackduck (replacing chaucer/Julian) (Night 4, buried in trash, Punch/Townie)
PlasmaCannonsRule (Day 4, hanged, Bobby Joe/Townie)
ducklegion (Night 5, buried in trash, Killbor/2-Shot Vigilante)
Wesley (replacing Licking Post) (Night 6, buried in trash, Healiana/Doctor)
Roland (Day 6, hanged, The Diabolical Onion/Mafia Godfather)--

It's Night 7! We're almost done, folks! Send in your PMs!

Roland

12-30-2007, 08:06 PM

Indeed I am very mad! Actually, now that you acknowledged it, I don't feel so bad.

/earlylastgasp

EDIT: Bah!

regeneratorizer

12-31-2007, 01:11 AM

Just so y'all know, its Monday again, so unless day starts when I wake up, I'll be gone all day. Don't do anything rash! At least wait until I get home, around 10-11:00 at night(Central America time, or so I'm told) before anyone votes or anything.

PurpleKoopa

12-31-2007, 06:49 PM

Another state of fear keeps you from sleep. The Mafia are nearly gone, but so are the villagers... how the town continue to grow after many of its members are gone? You are still thinking by the time the sun comes up.

The pile of trash shakes you more now than it did before, now not sure of the future ahead. Digging through the shattered memories - erm, trash, you find... oh no! Not Coolguy!

Almost instantly you now recognize Coolguy as the warm hearted Woody Woodsman, judging by his axe. Well, it looks like this it looks like a showdown... but with three people, yeah.

Coolguy/Woody Woodsman has been buried in trash. He was a Tracker.

--
ALIVE

CheeseLord
regeneratorizer
SillymanDEAD

diginova (Night 1, squashed and burnt, Betty/Townie)
ElMikkino (Day 1, hanged, Bruiser/Mafia)
Connor S. (Night 2, buried in trash, Ghost Dog/Mason)
Hammered (Night 2, sliced in two, Ghost Monkey/Mason)
Ufo-Man (Day 2, hanged, Ice Mice/Townie)
SpaceManiac (Night 3, buried in trash, Kinyova Sr./Townie)
Mr.Onion (Day 3, hanged, Onion Thug/Mafia)
Blackduck (replacing chaucer/Julian) (Night 4, buried in trash, Punch/Townie)
PlasmaCannonsRule (Day 4, hanged, Bobby Joe/Townie)
ducklegion (Night 5, buried in trash, Killbor/2-Shot Vigilante)
Wesley (replacing Licking Post) (Night 6, buried in trash, Healiana/Doctor)
Roland (Day 6, hanged, The Diabolical Onion/Mafia Godfather)
Coolguy (Night 7, buried in trash, Woody Woodsman/Tracker)--

It's Day 7! Be careful, folks... 2 votes to hang!

CheeseLord

12-31-2007, 07:14 PM

I think we already have all the proof we really need that Regen is the Junksmith. Vote: Regeneratorizer.

Coolguy

12-31-2007, 08:33 PM

Bah! What an unexpected surprise. :p Avenge me, town!

regeneratorizer

12-31-2007, 09:07 PM

Alright, I'm back, and after careful examination of the game, I have this to say in my defence: Coolguy was lying to us about the inspection! If he really did inspect Roland, then he wouldn't have seen him go anywheres! He said that Roland was 100% the Junksmith, and he turned out to be the Lead Onion! Coolguy has suddenly become very untrustworthy. How long was he lying to us?

Heres what I think: I think that he was lying to us when he said he inspected Cheesy. Theres just no way! I KNOW that I am not mafia(Note also: I voted Elmikk and Onion both with the second vote, and I KNEW that Roland was mafia! I was the first person to call him on that! Theres no way I would do that if I was mafia!) That means there are only two choices: Silly or Cheesy.

Therefore, I will VOTE: Cheesy. I trust that Silly is not a mafia: I just haven't seen the evidence. Cheesy was ALWAYS clinging to Roland, pretty much just agreeing with what he said. He barely even voted Mr. O and Elmikk; Only after they were already doomed.

Bottom line is: Cheesy is out last mafia!

Silly! I need your help! You are the only one who can cast the final vote and win this thing for the townies! Please, Vote for Cheesy! I came this far, I really, REALLY don't want to lose!

Sillyman

12-31-2007, 10:35 PM

Sorry, regen. Coolguy said that if he dies, you are mafia. And I didn't see you vote against Roland. *Gulp* I hope I'm right.... VOTE: Regeneratorizer! And besides, why would Coolguy trick us into doing something bad for the town? He only lied because he had to lynch the Onion. Cheeselord is innocent.

PlasmaCannonsRule

01-01-2008, 07:17 AM

....and I believe that's a lynch! Town wins! Hopefully.....maybe?

PurpleKoopa

01-01-2008, 11:26 AM

FINAL VOTE COUNT!

regeneratorizer - 2 - (CheeseLord, Sillyman)
CheeseLord - 1 - (regeneratorizer)

2 votes to hang!

--

The votes are in. CheeseLord and Sillyman both look at regeneratorizer.

"No, no! You've got it all wrong!" pleads regeneratorizer. "I'm Mickey!"

"Roar," growls Sillyman.

"Seriously, look at that lumbering hulk! Wouldn't he be a more likely member of the mafia?"

CheeseLord makes beeping and clanking noises. "Negatory," he beeps. "We have hanged the Diabolical Onion, Bruiser, and an Onion Thug. Sillyman cannot be a Bruiser, which is said lumbering hulk. Therefore regeneratorizer must be the final Mafia member, which we must assume to be the Junksmith."

A pause. Nobody makes any sudden moves.

"Okay, fine, I'm the Junksmith," regeneratorizer gives in. "But you know what? You're both a robot and some big animal or something! You don't even know how to run a town! And the boss... he just wanted to take over the town! So in a way he got what he wanted! So... there!"

"I am a robot, I am incapable of emotions here," says CheeseLord. "Now please come foward so I may hang -*krrrzt*- push you off a cliff -*krrreazt*- give you a... hug."

regeneratorizer backed off slowly. The final showdown (with three people) seemed to slow down... then he pulled out his junk shooting gun. "Not one foot closer! Or I'll blast you both to bits! Now hand over the town once and for all!"

...

Sillyman lifted up a boulder from nowhere and threw it at regeneratorizer, knocking him out. Admittedly, it wasn't much of a showdown.

regeneratorizer/The Junksmith has been hanged. He was the final Mafia member!

--

"Superb work display, mountainous biped," CheeseLord said.

"Roar roar roar roar roar?" asked Sillyman.

"Excellent query. Given that you and I cannot effectively manage a new community at Eisburg, I suggest that we go our seperate ways."

"Roar roar roar roar, roar."

"That is true, we at least did save this town from behaving sub-standardly with a new onion overlord."

"Roar roar."

"Goodbye to you too."

And so, the town of Eisburg was saved... somehow. Or not at all. Eisburg became a new town... although just to the Gorkas. And the Clockwork Robot went on to winning Loonyland Idol by singing "Still Alive". And that is the end of our story.

iT'S OVER!
Town wins!

--

Role PMs, day/night choices and mod comments to follow.

Coolguy

01-01-2008, 11:34 AM

Huzzah, victory to the town! My final 2 inspections were both of Regeneratorizer, so I knew he was evil.

Now, about lying about my inspection- That is NOT something I have done before and probably will never do again. It is almost always a bad idea for a cop to lie to the town about the information they have, so none of you people think this is a good excuse to start doing it all the time!

However, this was one very rare case where it was needed. I knew Regen and Roland had to be the Mafia, but I knew that I would be killed the next night and thus nobody would be able to get rid of him. I needed to lynch Roland before I died. Unfortunately, Regen had just proved himself evil, so the only way to get rid of Roland that day was to make up 'proof' against him as well. Regen would be easily lynched the next day because he shot the true doctor. And look, it worked. :p But none of you try it!!! My other inspections were not lies.

Roland, you played spectacularly in the beginning, but towards the end you started getting sloppy and pretty much revealed yourself blatantly. If you'd kept going as well as you did in the beginning, you probably would've won! But don't try those sacrifice-Mafia-to-make-one-person-look-good tricks until the cop has died, because if the cop inspects the wrong person (or, in this case, lies about an inspection), the Mafia are doomed.

That was a great game, PK! :p It was fun to be a tracking role and I look forward to your next game! And wow, I finally won a game by PurpleKoopa...

PurpleKoopa

01-01-2008, 11:37 AM

Role PMs!

CheeseLord's Role
Tick tock, beep bop. You are a Clockwork Robot! You were made of junk, but you haven't lost your funk. (groan) The first law of the Three Laws of Robotics states a robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. But that doesn't mean you can join an angry mob, right?

You are a townie. You have no special abilities, except for your brain and vote - use 'em! You win with the town.

Connor S.'s Role
Awooooo! You are a Ghost Dog! No, you're not some guy follows the way of the samurai, you're just a canine made from ectoplasm. You have another ghostly pal, but that pal got lost from you. Can you sniff out your undead friend?

You are a Potential Mason. Each night, you may pick one person you think is your potential partner (Ghost Monkey), who you know to be innocent. If you find them or vice versa, you will gain the ability to PM each other at night. You win with the town.

mod note: Show up as normal Masons on death

Coolguy's Role
Good afternooooon! You are Woody Woodsman! Did you know that a true woodsman is aware of every snapped twig and rustling branch? Yup. Good thing you happen to be a true woodsman!

You are a Tracker. Each night, you may track one person. You will be returned the name of the player they targeted, if anyone. You may not target a dead player (why would you?). You win with the town.

diginova's Role
Go Killbor! You are Betty! You love big, strong, feathery men who carry swords. Senseless violence is so much fun - and maybe with this band of Mafia in town, you can see some more! Oh wait, you might actually die in it? Time to take action.

You are a townie. You have no special abilities, except for your brain and vote - use 'em! You win with the town.

ducklegion's Role
Bok, bok bok bok bok. You are Killbor! You are the champion of the Arena. All who dare challenge you are thwacked at with your big yellow sword, or blown to bits by your Nuclear Bokbok brethren. This band of mafia has dared to challenge you, so what are you gonna do? ...well that was obvious.

You are a 2-Shot Vigilante. Twice in the game, and at night, you may choose a player to kill. You cannot use both kills the same night. You win with the town.

ElMikkino's Role
Smash, crush! You are a Bruiser! You bad guy. You smash stuff with club. If they say no smash, you smash. But not if the Boss says smash. And he say smash lots of times.

You are Mafia with Roland (The Diabolical Onion, Godfather), regeneratorizer (The Junksmith), and Mr.Onion (Onion Thug). Each night, the Godfather may choose a Mafia member to perform a kill and a victim. The Godfather is immune to night kills. You may talk with other Mafia members at night. The Mafia wins once it dominates the town.

Since roleclaiming as a big red troll is not really smart, here are a list of safe claims you can use if you need to role claim/lie. The other Mafia members got the same list, so talk with them about what to claim as. The stuff in parentheses are the 'greetings' of each character. For example, yours is "Smash, crush!".
--
The Historian (Erm, hello, wot wot! Ehhh, yes.)
Bodzha (Grawarar.)
Tinny Tim (Sir yes sir!)
Mickey (Hel-oh!)
Great Guru (Ohmmmm...)
Rock Crab (Snip snap!)
Grizzly (Grumph!)

Hammered's Role
Ooo oo, aah ah! You are a Ghost Monkey! You eat spectral bananas and mangos of ectoplasm. You're also handy with a monkey wrench. You have another ghostly pal, but that pal got lost from you. So stop monkeying around and go search!

You are a Potential Mason. Each night, you may pick one person you think is your potential partner (Ghost Dog), who you know to be innocent. If you find them or vice versa, you will gain the ability to PM each other at night. You win with the town.

Julian/chaucer/Blackduck's Role
I'm a real boy! You are a Punch! You are simply a sentient puppet that likes punching things. Of course, you are incredibly slow at it, so don't expect to win any fist fights.

You are a townie. You have no special abilities, except for your brain and vote - use 'em! You win with the town.

Licking Post/Wesley's Role
How are you feeling? You are Healiana! You are the helpful healer of Eisburg. Because of all this mafia business, you are using your services to protect those in need.

You are a Doctor. Each night, you may protect a player from one attack on their life. If a player is targeted for kill more than once that night, your protection will fail. You may not protect yourself. You win with the town.

Mr.Onion's Role
Yo! S'up? You are an Onion Thug! Smashing stuff with a mace is fun, but nobody else approves of this. By golly, you'll show them. You'll show them all!

You are Mafia with Roland (The Diabolical Onion, Godfather), regeneratorizer (The Junksmith), and ElMikkino (Bruiser). Each night, the Godfather may choose a Mafia member to perform a kill and a victim. The Godfather is immune to night kills. You may talk with other Mafia members at night. The Mafia wins once it dominates the town.

Since roleclaiming as a mugger is not really smart, here are a list of safe claims you can use if you need to role claim/lie. The other Mafia members got the same list, so talk with them about what to claim as. The stuff in parentheses are the 'greetings' of each character. For example, yours is "Yo! S'up?".
--
The Historian (Erm, hello, wot wot! Ehhh, yes.)
Bodzha (Grawarar.)
Tinny Tim (Sir yes sir!)
Mickey (Hel-oh!)
Great Guru (Ohmmmm...)
Rock Crab (Snip snap!)
Grizzly (Grumph!)

PlasmaCannonsRule's Role
Hewwo... You are Bobby Joe! You love your lollipop and getting presents on Festivius. However, with this band of mafia in Eisburg, your lollipop is in serious danger of being stolen. If that happens... Well, you're gonna cry yourself a river.

You are a townie. You have no special abilities, except for your brain and vote - use 'em! You win with the town.

regeneratorizer's Role
Getch yer hands off my junk! You are the Junksmith! You enjoy making weapons out of trash, and setting up traps to shoot said weapons at innocent bystanders. Of course that's illegal, but what are they going to do about it?

You are Mafia with Roland (The Diabolical Onion, Godfather), ElMikkino (Bruiser), and Mr.Onion (Onion Thug). Each night, the Godfather may choose a Mafia member to perform a kill and a victim. The Godfather is immune to night kills. You may talk with other Mafia members at night. The Mafia wins once it dominates the town.

Since roleclaiming as an angry garbageman is not really smart, here are a list of safe claims you can use if you need to role claim/lie. The other Mafia members got the same list, so talk with them about what to claim as. The stuff in parentheses are the 'greetings' of each character. For example, yours is "Getch yer hands off my junk!".
--
The Historian (Erm, hello, wot wot! Ehhh, yes.)
Bodzha (Grawarar.)
Tinny Tim (Sir yes sir!)
Mickey (Hel-oh!)
Great Guru (Ohmmmm...)
Rock Crab (Snip snap!)
Grizzly (Grumph!)

Roland's Role
MUAHAHAHAHA! You are The Diabolical Onion! You are the head vegetable of the Onion Ring, determined to rule over Winter Woods with an iron... um... root. You have a group of henchmen to carry out your villanous schemes, which are so villanous, they make Dr. Lukewarm and Ectobeard look like mere pickpocketers. (Okay, maybe pickpocketing is one of your schemes, but you have better.) The town may try as they might with their angry mob, but nothing can stop you! NOTHING!

You are the Godfather. You are Mafia with regeneratorizer (The Junksmith), ElMikkino (Bruiser), and Mr.Onion (Onion Thug). Each night, you may choose a Mafia member to perform a kill and a victim. If you do not state a person to perform the kill, the lowest member of the Mafia will be assumed. You are immune to nightkills. You may talk with other Mafia members at night. The Mafia wins once it dominates the town.

Since roleclaiming as an evil onion is not really smart, here are a list of safe claims you can use if you need to role claim/lie. The other Mafia members got the same list, so talk with them about what to claim as. The stuff in parentheses are the 'greetings' of each character. For example, yours is "MUAHAHAHAHA!".
--
The Historian (Erm, hello, wot wot! Ehhh, yes.)
Bodzha (Grawarar.)
Tinny Tim (Sir yes sir!)
Mickey (Hel-oh!)
Great Guru (Ohmmmm...)
Rock Crab (Snip snap!)
Grizzly (Grumph!)

mod note: Godfather targets mafia member who is sent out, unless Godfather performs kill himself. Targeted mafia member targets... the victim!

Sillyman's Role
Roar. Hurk! You are a Mountain Gorka! You usually live at high altitudes, throwing boulders at would-be climbers of the cliffs. The question is, though - are you better than a Bodzha? Who knows?

You are a townie. You have no special abilities, except for your brain and vote - use 'em! You win with the town.

SpaceManiac's Role
Waddya want?! You are Kinyova Sr.! You may be a grumpy old man, but you're skilled with all matter of weapon. Heck, I bet you could win this Mafia game with both hands duct-taped behind your back, and with little pieces of duct-tape covering your eyes. Not like your good-for-nothing son.

You are a townie. You have no special abilities, except for your brain and vote - use 'em! You win with the town.

Ufo-Man's Role
Squeak! You are an Ice Mice! (Is that the plural or singular form of your name?) You were once the bane of beta testers, but now you've been demoted to just annoying players when they go visit Kinyova Sr. One of these days, you will come back as the worst enemies of all time... but not yet.

You are a townie. You have no special abilities, except for your brain and vote - use 'em! You win with the town.

PurpleKoopa

01-01-2008, 11:39 AM

ducklegion

01-01-2008, 11:40 AM

thank you PK for the great game and also

The Historian (Erm, hello, wot wot! Ehhh, yes.)

that made my day :3

regeneratorizer

01-01-2008, 11:42 AM

Meh, it had a slim chance of working. Oh well.

Sillyman

01-01-2008, 12:34 PM

Rar! That was invigorating! *notes Bodzah on list of safe Mafia roleclaims* I told you any Bodzahs weren't to be trusted! Gwar! Gorkas rule!

Roland

01-01-2008, 12:36 PM

Thanks, Coolguy. I did play well to start off with, but then lost it towards the end. I'm not good in those pressure situations.

CheeseLord

01-01-2008, 12:39 PM

Strangely enough, in the original poll, PK voted Bodzhas. I wonder why they weren't used... Anyway, thank you for a fun game.

Sillyman

01-01-2008, 12:49 PM

Bodzahs weren't here because everybody knows Gorkas rule!

OOC: Actually, I like Bodzahs better. *Gets hit with a boulder* Hey, cut that out, me!

Connor S.

01-01-2008, 12:54 PM

Wheeeeeeeeeeeee! Go town! darn mafia and the duck!

Uh, my last gasp was deleted even though it was just a "bah! go town! curse the mafia!" funny Jamul!

:p

Wesley

01-01-2008, 01:20 PM

Hooray! We won! Great game PK!

SpaceManiac

01-01-2008, 01:29 PM

Wheeeeeeeeeeeee! Go town! darn mafia and the duck!

Uh, my last gasp was deleted even though it was just a "bah! go town! curse the mafia!" funny Jamul!

:p
Mine was too, but I reminded him and he restored it.

Connor S.

01-01-2008, 02:55 PM

Curses. probably should have tried that then. :D

PurpleKoopa

01-01-2008, 05:21 PM

Comments from Yours Truly!

Hi, first I would like to say, thank you for signing up for Loonyland 2 Mafia - if you did. If you didn't, then... thank you for watching the game. Or just stumbling onto this page.

I would like responses on this stuff, so please tell me how you felt about it...

Some things that were different in rules and set-up about this game from my other games:
There were no (helpful) last gasps, except for diginova, who didn't use his.
There was no list of roles in the game.
The Mafia can blend into the crowd with a list of safe claims.
Mafia killing was not done as a group, the Godfather sent out his subjects.
To go along with that no Mafia group killing, there was no cop, but there was a tracker.
The Mafia had no extra powers in terms of things like mafia roleblocker (unless you count the nightkill immune GF).
Monsters were good roles this time?

Not a rule or set-up thing, but the scenes were a lot shorter this game!
The no (helpful) last gasp rule was interesting to see take place. We didn't get a length last gasp like Hammered usually does (in fact, I didn't see much of Hammered in this game at all! Oh well), but I think it was still a slight advantage to the Mafia, since they really don't have much information to give away to their cohorts without giving them away.

Since there was no list of roles this game, I think there was almost a mass claiming going on - almost. Safe claims were also good, I think Roland did a pretty good job claiming Historian, it went undisputed and he even changed his avatar to him... (Note to future Mafia players - don't do that next game, now that I mentioned he did that ;) )

There were monsters in Loonyland 2 that try to kill you that... um... don't try to kill you in this game. Why? I'm not really sure, but it would be boring with just a bunch of NPCs, I guess. Besides, Killbor had to be in this game, although I guess that doesn't account for monsters that don't try to kill you in the overworld...

The scenes took a lot less time to do than my other two games - there wasn't a host like character this game, nor was there a primary Mafia overlord that's not a role! Much more focused on the player. I hope my writing is improving over time! :D Well, that's enough about rule and set-up...

Coolguy was a very good player this game, and I know he's going to say something here like, "I always am!" People doing things like, "I'm gonna wait for CG's comment on this" probably helps a bit, but it helps that he was a good leader this game. I'm not really sure what to think of his lying to get rid of Roland, but whatever works... :| Other townies, make you don't always follow him every game, never know when he's evil/wrong/just grating on you... ;)

Roland and the rest of the Mafia tried hard this game... Although I did see a mistake. Roland shouldn't have said something like, "I think the Mafia is a group of four, and they're not random monsters, they're in the Onion Ring", next time wait for the town to figure it out! Okay, well that's just one thing, but I think giving away information that the Mafia know is pretty bad... And on Day 5, your first post then was kinda silly, you were pointing out everyone that was not you or Coolguy and then guessed whether they were just the Diabolical Onion, and then the post where you knew regeneratorizer was evil - who knows, maybe Wesley would have gotten blamed if CG posted before then, and there wouldn't be a connection between you and regen!

ducklegion - next time don't use both your kills trying to get rid of Hammered :p

Ufo-Man - Please don't act crazy next time... What was with the whole recruiting mason thing anyway? Maybe I should have clarified that a bit... nah, the host shouldn't interrupt the game to point out, "Hey, you got that role wrong". :)

Um, do I have anything else to say? No, that's all I can think of right now... Once again, thank you for playing/reading, please tell what you think so future games are also this fun!

~ Purple Koopa

PlasmaCannonsRule

01-01-2008, 05:30 PM

Day/Night Choices!

NIGHT 1
Coolguy tracks diginova (stays put)
ducklegion kills Hammered
Roland sends ElMikkino to kill diginova
Wesley protects Hammered (ducklegion's kill blocked)
Hammered checks for ghost partner at Coolguy's
Connor S. checks for ghost partner at Cheeselord

DAY 1
ElMikkino hanged

NIGHT 2
Coolguy tracks chaucer (stays put)
Roland sends regeneratorizer to kill Connor S.
Hammered checks for ghost partner at Connor S.'s (successful)
ducklegion kills Hammered
Wesley protects Coolguy

DAY 2
Ufo-Man hanged

NIGHT 3
Coolguy tracks CheeseLord (stays put)
Roland sends regeneratorizer to kill SpaceManiac
Wesley protects Coolguy

DAY 3
Mr.Onion hanged

NIGHT 4
Coolguy tracks ducklegion (stays put)
Roland sends regeneratorizer to kill Blackduck
Wesley protects Coolguy

DAY 4
Blackduck hanged

NIGHT 5
Wesley protects Coolguy
Coolguy tracks Sillyman (stays put)
Roland sends regeneratorizer to kill ducklegion

DAY 5
Nobody hanged

NIGHT 6
Roland sends regeneratorizer to kill Wesley
Coolguy tracks regeneratorizer (targets Wesley)
Wesley protects Coolguy

DAY 6
Roland hanged

NIGHT 7
regeneratorizer kills Coolguy
Coolguy tracks regeneratorizer (targets Coolguy)

DAY 7
regeneratorizer hanged
Town wins!

It should be; (changes in bold);

Day/Night Choices!

NIGHT 1
Coolguy tracks diginova (stays put)
ducklegion kills Hammered
Roland sends ElMikkino to kill diginova
Wesley protects Hammered (ducklegion's kill blocked)
Hammered checks for ghost partner at Coolguy's
Connor S. checks for ghost partner at Cheeselord

DAY 1
ElMikkino hanged

NIGHT 2
Coolguy tracks chaucer (stays put)
Roland sends regeneratorizer to kill Connor S.
Hammered checks for ghost partner at Connor S.'s (successful)
ducklegion kills Hammered
Wesley protects Coolguy

DAY 2
Ufo-Man hanged

NIGHT 3
Coolguy tracks CheeseLord (stays put)
Roland sends regeneratorizer to kill SpaceManiac
Wesley protects Coolguy

DAY 3
Mr.Onion hanged

NIGHT 4
Coolguy tracks ducklegion (stays put)
Roland sends regeneratorizer to kill Blackduck
Wesley protects Coolguy

DAY 4
PlasmaCannonsRule (WAAH!!!) hanged

NIGHT 5
Wesley protects Coolguy
Coolguy tracks Sillyman (stays put)
Roland sends regeneratorizer to kill ducklegion

DAY 5
Nobody hanged

NIGHT 6
Roland sends regeneratorizer to kill Wesley
Coolguy tracks regeneratorizer (targets Wesley)
Wesley protects Coolguy

DAY 6
Roland hanged

NIGHT 7
regeneratorizer kills Coolguy
Coolguy tracks regeneratorizer (targets Coolguy)

DAY 7
regeneratorizer hanged
Town wins!