"Furries" on American Dad! [Archive]

SpiderPumpkin

10-20-2008, 04:28 PM

I'm pretty sure furries have 'bottomed out' in terms of reputation. At this point making fun of furries is just "beating a dead fox", or raccoon, or whatever other creepy animal people like to dress up as.
So you think foxes and raccoons are creepy?

EDIT: Regarding that other less important part of your post, I actually couldn't care less.

Kerma

10-20-2008, 04:38 PM

I have to agree, I just watched that clip, and it was kinda funny. It's sad though how many people sink down the Furrydom, though.

It feels like WWII where everyone was taught to not like furries. :cry:

chinook

10-20-2008, 06:13 PM

So you think foxes and raccoons are creepy?

No, but I think it's fairly safe to say that dressing up as foxes is. And drawing pictures of foxes mixed with humans? Yeesh!

SpiderPumpkin

10-20-2008, 06:19 PM

No, but I think it's fairly safe to say that dressing up as foxes is. And drawing pictures of foxes mixed with humans? Yeesh!
So you think I'm creepy?

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BOO!

TyTBone

10-20-2008, 06:38 PM

drawing pictures of foxes mixed with humans?

If Spiderpumpkin gets so "enveloped" in his own reality (brought about by being too immersed in Furry stuff) that he actually wants/tries to become an animal or marry a fox, yeesh indeed. But if he keeps at least a portion of his head on the ground, aight. (Thou should invest time in a real female, SP.)

bobinator1992

10-20-2008, 06:40 PM

If Spiderpumpkin gets so "enveloped" in his own reality (brought about by being too immersed in Furry stuff) that he actually wants/tries to become an animal or marry a fox, yeesh indeed. But if he keeps at least a portion of his head on the ground, aight. (Thou should invest time in a real female, SP.)

You're an awesome person, SP, personality wise, but.. uh... have you ever thought of meeting a good psychiatrist?

See, Spiderpumpkin, we're your friends. Your INTERNET friends. That kind of thing... I'm sorry, it's just not NORMAL. We want to HELP you.

chinook

10-20-2008, 06:41 PM

If Spiderpumpkin gets so "enveloped" in his own reality (brought about by being too immersed in Furry stuff) that he actually wants/tries to become an animal or marry a fox, yeesh indeed. But if he keeps at least a portion of his head on the ground, aight. (Thou should invest time in a real female, SP.)

A very sensible response!

Oh, and regarding that real female... completely and totally hide the furry stuff. She won't understand, I promise.

SpiderPumpkin

10-20-2008, 06:51 PM

(Thou should invest time in a real female, SP.)
True, true...
completely and totally hide the furry stuff.
Actually, I was planning to marry someone who's a Furry as well :D Or at least likes Furries. Just because I believe common interests are important, not because of some weird Fursuit, uhm, fascination.
we're your friends.
have you ever thought of meeting a good psychiatrist?
That doesn't sound very friendly. Made me laugh, though.

EDIT: Some explanation: I do Furry stuff because it's fun. I am very well capable of thinking on a human level, thank you verrrrry much.

EDIT2: Oh, and I haven't heard of any Furry actually believing that they're an animal or wanting to marry an animal so far, although that is the common stereotype.

chinook

10-20-2008, 06:56 PM

Actually, I was planning to marry someone who's a Furry as well :D Or at least likes Furries. Just because I believe common interests are important, not because of some weird Fursuit, uhm, fascination.

Well, that's all well and good. But if that doesn't work out, or if you find out in a few years that furry-dom isn't what it was cracked up to be, you'll probably wish that you never revealed to your "schoolmates/potential girlfriends/anyone at all" that you think that the world of Sonic the Hedgehog is a potential fantasy world for you.

SpiderPumpkin

10-20-2008, 07:01 PM

Well, that's all well and good. But if that doesn't work out, or if you find out in a few years that furry-dom isn't what it was cracked up to be, you'll probably wish that you never revealed to your "schoolmates/potential girlfriends/anyone at all" that you think that the world of Sonic the Hedgehog is a potential fantasy world for you.
I find the kind of mental image you seem to have of a Furry to be quite disturbing. I blame media.

EDIT: Very true, Kerma. And it's not like we attack anyone or force them to become Furries, yet people seem to want us to not be Furries, for practically no reason aside from probably being jealous that we're having fun and they're not.

Kerma

10-20-2008, 07:01 PM

Well, that's all well and good. But if that doesn't work out, or if you find out in a few years that furry-dom isn't what it was cracked up to be, you'll probably wish that you never revealed to your "schoolmates/potential girlfriends/anyone at all" that you think that the world of Sonic the Hedgehog is a potential fantasy world for you.

Y'know what? I think that SpiderPumpkin/Me/Anyone else in the world (presumably thousands) can believe what we want to believe. We choose to be Furries, so just let us Furries be... Furries.

chinook

10-20-2008, 07:04 PM

When did I suggest NOT to be furries? I just suggested to do as others do, and conceal it when in public.

Some wear a human-sized Raccoon suit... some just don't talk about it. Either way, no one knows, and no one gets beat up.

SpiderPumpkin

10-20-2008, 07:07 PM

When did I suggest NOT to be furries?
I wasn't just talking about you, but lots of other people as well. Btw, about the "concealing" thing, it's not like I run around and shout "Hello world, I'm a Furry! I'll have you for breakfast" all day. You don't tell random people about your personal life either, don't you?

EDIT: Oh, and this is the internet, where I can say whatever I want, since nobody knows who I am. I might even be Chuck Norris typing this; you can't know, or find out.

Connor S.

10-20-2008, 07:07 PM

FURRAYS ROOL!

Yah...

chinook

10-20-2008, 07:09 PM

I wasn't just talking about you, but lots of other people as well. Btw, about the "concealing" thing, it's not like I run around and shout "Hello world, I'm a Furry! I'll have you for breakfast" all day. You don't tell random people about your personal life either, don't you?

No, I was responding to Kerma. (He said "just let us be furries" or something.)

And honestly, I can't think of a long-term outcome of revealing your 'furry' interests to your schoolmates that isn't outrageously negative.

bobinator1992

10-20-2008, 07:11 PM

Spiderpumpkin... question. Give me an honest answer.

Are you 'attracted' to humans? I can't explain further than that, but I think you know what I'm talking about.

SpiderPumpkin

10-20-2008, 07:11 PM

And honestly, I can't think of a long-term outcome of revealing your 'furry' interests to your schoolmates that isn't outrageously negative.
Heh... Going to a school for weird, creepy intellectuals sure helps, though. I haven't actually told anyone that I'm a Furry (actually not even sure if I am), but I don't think anyone would care.

EDIT: @bobinator1992 Uh, yes? Oo I think we should take any further discussion on this to PM, since it's really bordering on becoming inappropriate.

EDIT2: Not "today", though, it's 4 in the morning where I live. I need to go to bed -o_-o

SpaceManiac

10-20-2008, 07:13 PM

I find the kind of mental image you seem to have of a Furry to be quite disturbing. I blame media.

EDIT: Very true, Kerma. And it's not like we attack anyone or force them to become Furries, yet people seem to want us to not be Furries, for practically no reason aside from probably being jealous that we're having fun and they're not.

This reminds me of those jerks at my school that hate me for being smarter than them.

Jamul

10-20-2008, 07:14 PM

This just has to stop. It's really judgmental. People can live their lives how they want. If you're curious about what that's about, ask away, but if you just want to express that it bothers you, do it somewhere else. This is a friendly forum where we make everyone feel welcome, not attacked.

TyTBone

10-20-2008, 07:27 PM

I don't think this question is inappropriate:

"SP, why are you so interested in Furries? Is it the 'innocence' seemingly associated with them?" (Of course, you realize that real foxes eat rabbits and other animals... furry vs. furry, in this case.)

people can live their lives how they want. "...s'long as they don't hurt no one else." For the most part, I agree with this.

regeneratorizer

10-20-2008, 08:16 PM

S'right, we don't take kindly to those who don't take kindly.

Roland

10-20-2008, 11:53 PM

Oh, and SpiderPumpkin...

ChrisDaLunatic said hi.

;)

SpiderPumpkin

10-21-2008, 02:19 AM

"SP, why are you so interested in Furries? Is it the 'innocence' seemingly associated with them?"
It's the overall feel of friendliness and solidarity regardless of nationality, age and gender that seems quite pronounced in Furry Fandom that makes it so awesome... You don't find much of this in the world anymore. (That, and anthropomorphic animals are cool, because... Well, they just are.)
ChrisDaLunatic said hi.
Oo
Uh, hi back to him xD

Regarding this... situation, I'm open for any level-headed discussion on this topic (possibly via PM).

Connor S.

10-21-2008, 05:11 AM

anthropomorphic animals are cool, because... Well, they just are.

I totally agree with this.

bobinator1992

10-21-2008, 05:25 AM

SpiderPumpkin

10-21-2008, 05:28 AM

Well, see, the thing is... LIKING anthro characters is not bad. If it were, everybody who liked Sonic, (the old kind or new the new kind) Disney, Looney Toons would be. It's when you start looking at anthro characters meant to 'entice' the viewer or think you ARE an anthro animal, is when things get iffy.
"Iffy" with a "y", you mean. (Actually two 'y's, but whatever.) Btw, I neither look at pictures like that (and in fact, a lot of people (Furries) dislike them), nor do I actually believe I'm an animal (and i don't think any Furry does); it's just fun to imagine.

Sillyman

10-21-2008, 10:07 AM

bobinator1992

10-21-2008, 11:53 AM

Like I said in the chat: The only thing bad about furries is the internet's tendency to ruin everything, and the widespread hate of them. That, and when they coincidentally get stuck associated with horrible mainstream things... drat you Sega.

I was thinking... I bet what SEGA does nowadays is import fanfiction writers to write their plot for a lot less than their old writers. We've gone from 'bad guy is doing bad things, good guy must stop him' from 'good guy and his friend must stop bad guy again' to 'bad man discover's good guy's emo evil twin' to 'bad guy had nothing to do with the whole thing and the true bad guy is THE DARK LORD HIMSELF' to 'bad guy transforms good guy into horrible werething'.

Don't forget 'good guy goes back in time to the middle ages and gets a sword. Not appearing: Bad guy.'

It's crazy, I tells ya. :P

Wait... what was the topic? When somebody mentions new Sonic, I tend to lose track of what I'm talking about.

So... weird question. When else have furries popped up in popular media? There was a CSI episode about them, but I don't watch TV much, and I heard a mention of one in a comic book...

SpiderPumpkin

10-21-2008, 12:09 PM

There was a CSI episode about them
I've heard about that; allegedly, it implies that Furry Conventions would be about... weird Fursuit fascinations (which couldn't be further from the truth; they're actually like Games Conventions for Furry stuff).

Oh, and regarding your question, modern RPGs, especially MMORPGs, tend to have at least one animal-based race in them so that Furries will play them, so I guess we/they did influence that type of media at least. Other than that, the term was mentioned on Dork Tower once; don't know if that counts as an appearance in popular media.

Meh... I think I'll draw some random anthros now.

Ninja of Frozen Milk

10-21-2008, 12:16 PM

Make one a crystal beast sapphire pegasus! or a Ruby Carbuncle.

Ubernoob

10-21-2008, 02:30 PM

I first encountered Furries about twenty years ago or so, in the comic book Albedo Anthropomorphics. There were a lot of sources of similar stuff at that time, including a role-playing game based on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles which provided rules for creating sentient animals in all shapes and sizes. I thought it would be useful as a basis for creating new types of aliens for role playing games, like in Albedo Anthropomorphics, which also had a role-playing game.

I'm not sure when some people decided to be weirded out by Furries. I frankly don't know a lot about the subculture, having merely watched a bunch of videos on YouTube about it, but I gather that it mainly consists of people dressing up in costumes at times of the year other than Hallowe'en. I personally find other hobbies less understandable, like the people who pretend to be vampires, but to each his own. Lots of people dress up these days, like Star Trek characters, superheroes and villains, aliens, and various characters from movies and TV.

But I suspect that the reason people pick on Furries particularly is due to religion. Firstly this is because the tone of the intolerance sounds like stuff the religious right says about lots of other people they don't like. Also, some people might believe that there is a pagan and nature-worshipping component to Furrydom, however unconscious. Go figure.

bobinator1992

10-21-2008, 02:40 PM

So... when was the 'first' furry, exactly? Probably they had them since cavemen days, I guess, but when did the official term pop up?

SpiderPumpkin

10-21-2008, 02:52 PM

So... when was the 'first' furry, exactly? Probably they had them since cavemen days, I guess, but when did the official term pop up?
Copied directly from the Wikipedia article 'cause I'm lazy:

According to fandom historian Fred Patten, the concept of furry originated at a science fiction convention in 1980, when a drawing of a character from Steve Gallacci’s Albedo Anthropomorphics initiated a discussion of anthropomorphic characters in science fiction novels, which in turn initiated a discussion group that met at science fiction and comics conventions. Patten defined "Furry fandom" as "the organized appreciation and dissemination of art and prose regarding 'Furries', or fictional mammalian anthropomorphic characters."

The specific term "Furry fandom" was being used in fanzines as early as 1983, and had become the standard name for the genre by the mid-1990s. However, fans consider the origins of furry fandom to be much earlier, with fictional works such as Kimba, The White Lion released in 1965, Richard Adams' novel Watership Down, published in 1972 (and its 1978 film adaptation), as well as Disney's Robin Hood as oft-cited examples. To distinguish these personae from seriously depicted animal characters, such as Lassie or Old Yeller, cartoon animals are referred to as funny animals, a term that came into use in the 1910s.

During the 1980s, furry fans began to publish fanzines, developing a diverse social group that eventually began to schedule social gatherings. By 1987, there was sufficient interest to stage the first furry convention. Throughout the next decade, the Internet became accessible to the general population and became the most popular means for furry fans to socialize.

varkarrus

10-21-2008, 04:29 PM

http://code.gogo.co.nz/images/inspector_gadget_01.jpg
Wowzers!

Wesley

10-21-2008, 08:07 PM

EDIT: Some explanation: I do Furry stuff because it's fun. I am very well capable of thinking on a human level, thank you verrrrry much.

...Did anyone read his edit from before?

What was I going to post again...? Oh right. Foxes and Raccoons are cute, and beating them will result in a giant rabbit falling from the sky to stomp the living daylights out of you.

TyTBone

10-21-2008, 10:01 PM

Foxes and Raccoons are cute...

...in the Furry world. In reality, they can still look and act somewhat cute, but of course foxes are carnivores (as I already mentioned) who eat other furries and raccoons dig through people's garbage. And if they get rabies...well...

So they seem to have their own two separate places in reality and in Furry World...

Mr.Onion

10-22-2008, 02:45 AM

I first encountered Furries about twenty years ago or so,
But that was before the internetz!! :o

But I suspect that the reason people pick on Furries particularly is due to religion.
I suspect you are looking for issue #471.

SpiderPumpkin

10-22-2008, 11:02 AM

Make one [...] a Ruby Carbuncle.
Done :D (http://www.duckattack.de/rubycarbuncle.png)

Ubernoob

10-22-2008, 12:00 PM

I suspect you are looking for issue #471.

What is issue #471?

chinook

10-22-2008, 12:41 PM

I think it's the one with Diddy Kong Racing on the cover. A double-issue, too.

bobinator1992

10-22-2008, 02:56 PM

Well, guys, lately I've had a long, interesting conversation with Spiderpumpkin. He's... different, yeah, but he's a pretty awesome guy. I guess I can live with furries, even if they want to conquer humanity with a hairy fist and make us their eternal slaves. :P

Ninja of Frozen Milk

10-22-2008, 03:12 PM

I should talk to him on the chat someday, we have a lot in common.

AtkinsSJ

10-22-2008, 03:20 PM

SP's said before that he doesn't go on the chat, and I've certainly not seen him on there.

Ninja of Frozen Milk

10-22-2008, 03:23 PM

True, Hmm... oh well, ANTHRO RUBY CARBUNCLES FTW!

Also, the eyes look... wierd.

bobinator1992

10-22-2008, 04:21 PM

He had a seperate chat client.

I'm sure he'd let you know if he wanted to say which one. Or I could say, if that's OK with him.

SpiderPumpkin

10-22-2008, 04:27 PM

the eyes look... wierd.
What's weird about them? They're supposed to look gemstone-ish.
I'm sure he'd let you know if he wanted to say which one. Or I could say, if that's OK with him.
It's ICQ, and I would add my ICQ number to my profile, but I don't want random people to annoy me with messages (I normally(! :p) don't have much time to talk on ICQ anyway). Feel free to contact me via PM if you want to know it, though.