#12 Future History

[cballanti]

So far there have been two significant clues posted about this puzzle:

"Groening"

&

"Think about Gettysburg, not Main St"

Are these good clues? (The first one boggles my mind - How does a map of Gettysburg and some numbers have any link to Groening?) Can someone who's solved it confirm that this is enough information to find an answer? I'm not ready to throw in the towel on this one yet, but I've stared at this puzzle far longer than any of the others! I sure hope I'll be amazed and dazzled by the answer (if I ever get it).

[Jamul]

The first of the two, I do NOT like. It could lead you to the answer, but it would do so via a completely different path than the actual puzzle, so you might as well ignore it. The second clue should be helpful to some extent.

How exactly could the overall picture be described?

[pizza]

:shock: ....... ...

I just guessed it and: "You got it right!"... (you just have to look at the title)

[cballanti]

Aha! I'm getting closer. I haven't solved it yet, but now I understand your hint. Thanks for your help!

[cballanti]

Well, I'm still stuck on this. I know what the picture describes, and therefore i think I know what the numbers refer to. However, I still don't know why all those numbers are necessary, why some are underlined, and what the "starting point" for the answer would be.

[Hammered]

never mind

[cballanti]

Hammered,

Is that a hint for Future History or #6 Primary Location?

[cballanti]

I got it! Oh man, it feels good to solve that one. Thanks for everyone's help!

[Gnaget]

ok, now it is my turn to be all confused! I abandoned Groening, but I don't see what the entire picture is supposed to describe

[jwm]

ok, now it is my turn to be all confused! I abandoned Groening, but I don't see what the entire picture is supposed to describe

I've got as far as getting a sentence that almost makes sense, but the "9:83" seems pretty weird, and none of the related dates work.

Could someone who's crack it PM me so I can check that I'm on the right track?

Thanks.

[crassycatz]

i hate being from england!! lol, all these american geography ones make no sense to me at all... and how the **** did you get a sentance?? are the numbers some sort of code that relates to the alphabet???

[jwm]

i hate being from england!! lol, all these american geography ones make no sense to me at all... and how the **** did you get a sentance?? are the numbers some sort of code that relates to the alphabet???

The puzzle's not really a geography question (at the first layer, anyway). Given that the picture gives you a place and asks for a date, the first question I asked my self was "what happened there?"

[dannawii]

how did everybody just guess it??? i've tried exactly 100 years! and none of them is correct! is it way further than 100? :?

[smrq]

I guessed the answer, but still have no idea what the "proper" way to solve it is. Could someone who's properly solved the puzzle perhaps PM me with a nudge in the right direction? I'm interested in actually solving the thing.

EDIT: The same goes for #9: Uncoordinated. Guessed the answer, no clue on the proper way to solve it, still interested.

[vozome]

ok, I think I know what the picture really represents, but I can't tie it to the numbers. Can anyone offer suggestions?
thanks

[dannawii]

can someone PM me as to how to guess it :P ! no one seems to be solving it the "proper" way! so there isnt much help posted about it! i just really wanna guess it!

[jwm]

can someone PM me as to how to guess it :P ! no one seems to be solving it the "proper" way! so there isnt much help posted about it! i just really wanna guess it!

You need to find a question. You've got three things in the picture—a map of some place, "123 Main st", a sort of Platonic form, and a set of number pairs.

You need to use the first two clues to get you to some text to apply the last set of clues to.

Also, trust the national archives.

[*Jacob*]

I have absolutely NO idea what I'm supposed to do with this puzzle. I've made tracks and solved puzzles before and after it, but this puzzle just stumps the bejesus out of me. Any hints would be appreciated, but I have no opposition to a BIG, OBVIOUS hint. I'll take anything short of the answer.
I think I might have a SLIGHT clue as to what's given: an address, something to do with a year. What the **** are the 'spoken' numbers for? I can't decipher a thing out of them...I turned numbers to letters and then tried rearranging, but no luck. Please?

[dannawii]

well i had already figured out what i think is the obvious! I have a certain year in history and i think i know how 123 main street applies to it! but thats all! i have no idea what to do next! if its too much of a spoiler PM me please!

[Moebius]

Ok, this is hard to do without too much of a giveaway, but here goes.

Assuming you have figured out what the picture refers to and have found the item referred to, try breaking it into pieces and go from there.

[dannawii]

if the picture isn't a simple map then i haven't figured out what it means :? ! this is the only puzzle that i just don't get!!! i don't understand anything about it! plz PM me!

[dannawii]

*** i finally got it! and i have to say the "GROENING" hint is much better! i don't care if it's the wrong way to solve it but it totally works!
just google groening and look for something that reminds you of "future history"!

[onwardknave]

I solved it too, but using the Groening hint hasn't helped solve the number pairs. Anyone have advice on that so I can work on it from both directions?

[Zaratus]

Ok, got it with the Groening Hint, but I still am unsure how to solve it.

I think I'm on the right track, and I think I've figured out what the numbers mean, and what to apply them to, but it's not panning out. *shrug*

[lexie_98]

ok i'm completley lost can some one help me with what the numbers repersent?

[jwm]

ok i'm completley lost can some one help me with what the numbers repersent?

Do you have something to apply the numbers to?

[FarSide792]

so I got the answer...but i have no clue what the numbers mean....can someone PM me and help me out???? thanks!!

[jwm]

so I got the answer...but i have no clue what the numbers mean....can someone PM me and help me out???? thanks!!

Think biblical citations.

[trcook]

I agree with the sentiment here about this puzzle being evil. Of course I wouldn't go to the trouble of doing these puzzles if they were easy.

Anyway, I agree with onwardknave, the Groening hint is way easier. In fact, I still don't understand how to solve the puzzle the proper way.

happy riddling
Tom

[smrq]

Bah, you don't need to give hints on Groening. That makes it a one-step puzzle anyway...

[diggler12]

Ok, i have just solved future history and feel great about it, it took me ages, and not the Groening way. Please people, don't do it the Groening Way, i havn't tried it and don't know whether it works, but surely it not how the mechanics of the code was designed.

Hints:
Where there are more than one source of text, go with the origanal or the first.
With the numbers, once you have converted that into 'the correct text' a little googling should get you there.

[jwm]

Where there are more than one source of text, go with the origanal or the first.

Go with the National Archives. There are other sources that could be considered canonical; it just so happens that Wikipedia doesn't list the right one for this puzzle.

Frankly, that was the hardest part - getting the right text!

[fr0man]

Could someone PM me on Future History? I've figured out the text I need (I think) but can see no possible way to apply the number pairs to it.

[jwm]

Could someone PM me on Future History? I've figured out the text I need (I think) but can see no possible way to apply the number pairs to it.

The number pairs can't be mapping to letters, as there's not enough to form a sentence. So...

[Garf]

This one gets on my nerves too. The "sentence" I get is strange to say the least.

And then seeing that so many people have managed to solve it....arghh.
I need more the a simple Groening, can't see what he has to do with it all.

[Jamul]

I will repeat a previous clue tha should be part of the puzzle, and when I get around to it someday will be: Trust the National Archives.

[Moebius]

I will repeat a previous clue tha should be part of the puzzle, and when I get around to it someday will be: Trust the National Archives.

I'll repeat Jamul's repeating of a previous clue. Trust the National Archives.

[Masem]

I'll add a couple more

1) This puzzle has three solving stages.

2) In grade school in writing essays, why would you underline certain words?

As pointed out already, trusting the National Archives and using #2 above should get you to the right answer (in the right direction, too) pretty quickly.

[jdstew218]

This is one of those puzzles that has so many hints that I am swamped in them. I believe I know the document required. For some reason I was unable to locate it on the National Archives website. There are several versions/copies of this document. Which do I use? How then do I apply the numbers to the document? There was one reference to "biblical citations" which I assume means chapter:verse for the number combinations. *sigh*

I'm not looking for the answer just a PM prodding me in the right direction.

[lelebelle]

Groening was definitely the most useful hint for me. Although, this is one of those puzzles where although I found the answer, I still have no idea what half the other clues mean, so if you're interested in solving the "correct" way, Groening won't help you a bit.

[omgitsgir]

I'm 100% sure I have the right version of the text (National Archives), but it doesn't have enough sentences...

Should I go by line?

[omgitsgir]

Nevermind, I found the missing sentence(s).

But there aren't enough words in a specific sentence. What's going on here?

[noneya]

wow.. i solved this one.. no wonder it's called 'FUTURE history' i found my answer on wiki, and the groening hint helps. this was easy.. even though i rated it 'average'.

Hint: just search for a year that hasn't happened yet.. maybe even search groening (ex: on wiki) maybe then you shall find the answer.. but for this one.. as easy as it sounds when you know the answer.. it seems like you could just guess it without really doing anything.

EDIT: maybe I could ask everyone to PM me the answer to all of these..(not doing as much work) other then just doing it the hard way.. and finding a way to cheat (not always possible.. it can take some time) my way through it.. or maybe just solve it the way it is suppose to be solved (which would take the longest time probably)

[Jamul]

That is again not actually solving the puzzle. Groening has *zero* to do with this puzzle. You can cheat your way through many puzzles in similar fashion, but you might as well just ask someone to tell you the answer as it amounts to the same thing.

[carrie92]

I figured out the actual question... but I don't understand how I'm supposed to come up with the answer?
I went as far as I could go with Gettysburg, and the numbers... that part made sense... now it's the actual answer I don't get.

?

[runtsta]

One of the words you find should really be two words, compounded. This threw me off for a while, but since I'd heard of the underlined reference before, I managed to figure out the context.

[justywusty87]

please PM me with a hint or the solution. I don't wan't to just guess it but if you know a hint on guessing then please tell me it. I tried the year i thought it was but it didn't accept. Also Do I use BC or AD? or just a number for year.

[Lunessence]

I was actually wondering if I could bounce my ideas about off of someone who has already solved this puzzle and see if I'm going in the right direction.

I'm pretty sure I'm making this more complicated than it needs to be, but most of these clues aren't helping me out.

Thanks :lol:

[Mossysox]

It's been a while, but feel free to PM me.