View Full Version : Help on #37, Thugs and Brutes!
groel
03-10-2006, 07:52 AM
Hey, I am soo close on this one, I think I even got the first half of the puzzle, but I can't for the life of me figure out the last half. If anyone has any hints on finishing it out plz PM me. I will tell you what I have, and maybe you can point me in the right direction for finishing it. Thanks.
Joel
The puzzle is pretty clear about how it addresses you. Just make sure that you're speaking the same language, and you should be fine.
vozome
03-16-2006, 01:38 AM
do you have other hints? I think I've figured what language we are talking about, but ... any help is welcome :)
amolamo
03-20-2006, 01:17 PM
I can't even figure out what language this is! Grr!! Please help with a hint! Thanks in advance!! :cry:
misterpink
03-20-2006, 01:44 PM
im fairly certain ive figured out what it says - but the answer it seems like it would want doesnt seem to be correct - in any form I can think of entering it ..
lexie_98
03-20-2006, 01:45 PM
I tried to translate it, but can't get anything. Can someone pm a website to help.
Zaratus
03-20-2006, 01:46 PM
I got the language, but I can't seem to get a translation... I've got two different meanings for the first part, and can't find anything for the second. *shrug*
vozome
03-21-2006, 01:29 AM
when I tried to translate it using an online dictionnary, I got wildly thrown off in a wrong direction. because there are different ways to transcript the language in roman characters, searches won't be necessarily accurate.
If you have found enough knowledge to transcript the words, you have probably already seen the answer somewhere already...
I'll add that if you really can't figure out how to translate it properly, there's one additional thing you probably need to recognize.
turgid dahlia
03-25-2006, 02:05 AM
No hints here, but this puzzle gets my vote for the best so far - awesome fun.
Nathan_1025
03-26-2006, 10:31 AM
Umm, I'm am completely stuck on this one.
Can I get a clue to what language this is written in?
ruthlesscrit
03-26-2006, 12:44 PM
the background picture should help you find the language
Finding the language wasn't hard due to the picture.
Most of the letters are transferable to our alfabet, but then>>>>>
Did anyone find a decent dictionary ?
Gibberish and babytalk is what I get. It has been driving me insane.
(not as much as some other puzzles but nevertheless)
I'm left clueless.
argyblarg
03-30-2006, 11:31 AM
It can be tricky. You can't always count on dictionaries.
jusme
03-31-2006, 08:57 AM
I know what the second word is, although there are multiple spellings in the language for it. It took me quite awhile to track this one down. The first word looks very very similar to another word that's in the same 'set' as the second word in the puzzle, but it's not quite the same, there's an extra character. Help!
glacion
03-31-2006, 09:47 AM
Jusme, it sounds like you are very close. If you have really found the right "set," just do the substitution and take the next logical step. In addition, when you say it's "one character off", is that in the romanization or in the original language? Because if it's in the romanization, you can easily chalk that up to scheme differences.
I figured it out thanks to the refferal to the "set"
lexie_98
04-04-2006, 02:41 PM
ok i get all the hints i know what i'm looking for, i've even found the second part but where the heck do you find the first part?
JGS007
04-05-2006, 07:07 PM
Well, I've been on this one for four days and I'm pretty much at my wits end. The language is simply too complicated for me to translate and I haven't seen anything close to the arrangement of characters I see with this puzzle...Nothing I've seen on the web helps at all.
Are you i(r)n to?
J
starryeyes
04-05-2006, 11:25 PM
:shock:
I have finally cleared the translation. It was rather difficult.
But now Im lost. I tried the obvious route.
How does Thugs & Brutes fit into this?
i am on hour 7 of this craziness
any ideas?
JGS007
04-06-2006, 04:18 AM
:shock:
I have finally cleared the translation. It was rather difficult.
But now Im lost. I tried the obvious route.
How does Thugs & Brutes fit into this?
i am on hour 7 of this craziness
any ideas?
Well, I haven't solved it either, but can say with assurance that certain characters, when placed together, create different Romanized characters and sounds than the characters do when they are alone. "Brutes" shows up in a definition if you have translated one of the words correctly.
J
JGS007
04-06-2006, 06:20 AM
Oh for God's sake...
Never mind everyone. I seriously need to stop making these things more difficult than they really are. Frustration is my worst enemy I guess....
Thanks to my good buddies on the forum and meirkat, the answer was made overly obvious.
J
the_crowbar
04-11-2006, 06:47 AM
Can someone give me another hint for this puzzle? I know the language. I tried converting the words to romanized letters, but that did not get me far. I then looked for online dictionaries and found the second word. I am still looking for the first.
Masem
04-11-2006, 07:04 PM
There is one page on the internet that, once you've handled the bg of this puzzle, will have everything you need. It may be in the fine print, however.
cutebunny70
04-11-2006, 07:23 PM
is there any site that can help? (specific links would be appreciated)
Rebes
04-11-2006, 09:33 PM
It's kind of impossible to give out a site that would help without giving away the puzzle...
You know that you are looking for pieces of a language from a specific place in the world, given by the background. Find out what that language is called. Find out what these symbols represent in that language. Put everything together, and then you will have your answer. The answer may not make much sense to you and me, but someone who speaks that language would probably understand it.
R!
stemar00
04-21-2006, 12:03 PM
ok, i give up. got through all the other 49 but this one leaves me completely puzzled, anybody PM me the solution? please?
Masem
04-21-2006, 04:51 PM
Hint: there's one symbol in the puzzle that should make it obvious of what the unknown symbols are likely to be when untranslated and what the answer would expected to be.
FireLily
04-30-2006, 03:19 PM
At first I was looking at the wrong language (the official language of the country), but once I realized I had to be more specific about the language, I figured it out really quickly.
There's a website called Omniglot which can help you.
atomicwedgie
04-30-2006, 06:39 PM
I solved this one with great difficulty, because I was (unnecessarily) preoccupied by an apparent misspelling in the puzzle. From all the resources I looked at, I eventually concluded that the first set of symbols is incorrectly spelled. Unless this was a deliberate effort to lead potential solvers astray, I feel the error needs to be corrected.
Masem
04-30-2006, 07:03 PM
Without giving too much away, I initial had that same spelling problem, until I found that one resource had exactly what was shown, as opposed to breaking it down and trying to get letter-by-letter.
Needless to say, I point back to my last hint about what the translation is likely going to be, and that may clear up the confusion.
atomicwedgie
04-30-2006, 09:24 PM
Without giving too much away, I initial had that same spelling problem, until I found that one resource had exactly what was shown, as opposed to breaking it down and trying to get letter-by-letter.
Needless to say, I point back to my last hint about what the translation is likely going to be, and that may clear up the confusion.
Indeed; however, my issue is not with the puzzle's solvability, but rather its accuracy. A puzzle must be trusted to provide correct information; otherwise, the solver has no way to know whether a particular detail is meant to help or mislead, and consequently, the puzzle cannot be reasonably solved.
nineironputt
05-08-2006, 01:10 AM
This one was time consuming for the outcome, which I was in the right direction the whole time. The first word could send you for a little loop at the end. As I was having trouble finding it a match. But the outcome of it came together pretty well especially with its partner.
Rebes
05-08-2006, 06:15 AM
Not axactly sure why you would give hints that are completely unrelated to the puzzle...
Anyways, the resource that I used for this puzzle lets you look up the direct meaning of each of the two words. The spelling on the first word was slightly off, but so close to one of the expected results that I used it. Leap of faith, but not much of a stretch. When you use the two results you will get, you can simply do the math and enter in the proper result.
R!
jchcpunk4life
06-22-2006, 12:15 PM
Ok so i'm lost as usual with these things I have the language or so I think anyway and i'm getting really wierd results i can't find these words in the dictionary or anything along those lines can some one help me please. oh and on the second word the 4th character i don't know if i have it right because i cant find an alphabet with a dot about the character some one pm me and help me get past this one.
powermouse
07-20-2006, 10:22 AM
I solved this one with great difficulty, because I was (unnecessarily) preoccupied by an apparent misspelling in the puzzle. From all the resources I looked at, I eventually concluded that the first set of symbols is incorrectly spelled. Unless this was a deliberate effort to lead potential solvers astray, I feel the error needs to be corrected.
I just solved this one and I'm sorry but I don't agree with you atomicwedgie - there is no error in the symbols in the puzzle. If you determine the correct language based on the background, you should be able to find a resource that will provide you with the info you need. I "translated" it to letters using the clues exactly as written and was able to solve it in half an hour. The longest part is determining exactly which language to use but as many have already pointed out, the background will lead you where you need to go and once there, you may need to try 1 or 2 languages before finding the right one. Don't forget that a different dialect can appear similar. I used a variety of sites to help with this one but mostly wikipedia and search results from google.
The "Brute(s)" part of the title is incredibly clever but unfortunately, isn't likely to help you solve the puzzle. It's just a "hey, cool" thing for after you've solved it. :) I never did figure out the significance of "thugs"
rlink55
08-08-2006, 08:23 AM
I know the language to search for, but i cant for the life of me find out where to translate. HELP??????????????????????????????
For some reason I made a meal out of this one and it took me even longer than "this one is bacon", even though now it look back, it was quite straightforward.
I got sidetracked for a while into movies (interestingly getting a match for "thug" and "brutes" respectively in the plots for each) and fiddled about with them for ages before discounting this track as a red herring.
Online dictionaries were not too much help, most of them gave me gibberish, but as one forum member has already mentioned, you can't always count on dictionaries, heh, heh.
jolson42
11-20-2008, 11:06 PM
Ok, I got the language pretty quickly (coincidentally, I had to write a report about the the region last year, but that's neither here nor there).
I translated them, and everything seemed to add up, but the solution I came up with didn't work, and I'm stuck.
Can anyone give more clues?
Or PM me with more specific instructions?
EDIT:
Thank you, Mossysox!
I had a spelling mistake; they can come up easily when trying to phonetically transcribe a foreign word.
And powermouse: look up the original meaning of the word.
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